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what the fuck, this game stupid or what, create a challenge a handstand and cover MC face
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what the fuck, this game stupid or what, create a challenge a handstand and cover MC face
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my brother in christ, did you take a screenshot, load the screenshot in paint, then screenshot it again? lol
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That is one thing I agree with the sentiment on here. That is bad.
I like the concept of hiding the MC's face, but you need to be cleverer than that. Hell put a pot plant there or someone throw a giant teddy at him, or any of dozen ways to hide is face. That is just bad.
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It's amazing how Braindrop releases a half-assed update and his "soldiers" already come to defend him in this forum. It's like Braindrop has declared war on F95Zone and his headquarters is his Discord where he's the supreme leader and his ass kissers are his soldiers.
- Sep 26, 2019
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Donations are not a paycheck. There is no contractual obligations that have to be met. Donators can at anytime pull their support.
Coming to a vn forum to complain about a dev and assistant isn't toxic, making jokes about their family dying, etc Is.
The dev doesn't even read this thread anymore so it's become a water cooler for people to gather and one up each other with insults and complaints which now apparently being called "facts".
Facts are:
-These posts won't change shit.
-Beating a dead horse will not get you to town faster.
-Mods can act inappropriate and make mistakes like everyone else.
Coming to a vn forum to complain about a dev and assistant isn't toxic, making jokes about their family dying, etc Is.
The dev doesn't even read this thread anymore so it's become a water cooler for people to gather and one up each other with insults and complaints which now apparently being called "facts".
Facts are:
-These posts won't change shit.
-Beating a dead horse will not get you to town faster.
-Mods can act inappropriate and make mistakes like everyone else.
They are not defending BD. They are just arguing with people who rightfully criticize BD. It's totally different.
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I've been accused in this thread of being too positive about this whole debacle. Several times in fact. That was because I refused to discuss BrainDrop and his antics and remained (as I still am) in love with this "story".
Does that mean that I am not a critic of how this once cool story is now being thorn apart by it's Dev? No, I am very much pissed off with this Excuser In Chief that had in his hands a cool story and either by actions and inactions have put it in this sorry state.
This LOOOONG time out that could have been used to work on the rework, admittedly quite needed has it was completely ridiculous how long the MC's days were (he's returning to that again, this fucking game day is already so thick with content that it could be a full week). In this time the former edge that this story once had is now dull and common, never mind, I still like it even if it has been done way better and more interestingly since BrainDrop entered his BrainFreeze state.
He's now trying to become relevant again, after his Carbonite phase. Pretending that he makes polls to interact with his community ofhostages, sorry, patrons. He's being "active" again, with a promise of 52 updates in 52 weeks in a attempt to recoup his prior big hits season. Most of us here are seriously sceptic of this. Why? Just look at what's happened since November 2021 (at least) with the rolling excuses and the drought of updates with a deluge of promises.
This, all of this, created a climate of negativity towards BD, it could have been avoided, it could. But not by users of this forum, not by it's moderators. All this could have been avoided by BD. Instead of catastrophizing each and every excuse, he could have been honest, clear and decent. Yet, he chose the opposite, each, and, every, fucking, time. So much so, that he had to resort to banning patrons, paying patrons. Can anyone get this around it's head? He's banning people that are willing to pay him to keep doing the least possible and do so in the hopes that he sometimes gets something done. Yet, he has to ban them for daring to be critics of his antics. Because the whole thing is now a smoke and mirrors show too fragile to sustain criticism.
I said above that I still love this "story", I do. Doesn't matter to me that many here have since become so jaded that they can't separate BD from WVM, I can't and don't think bad of them, it has been a chore to keep this going (for me) so I can understand them. Do I like the state that this is in? No, not even remotely. Don't I see the pitfalls and glaring plot holes? I do, I really do, but still I can't give up on some of the characters. They are probably not what everyone else looks at, it matters not.
I don't really care about ANY of the issues that BD has or pretends to have. I care about this: If you say you'll do something, you do it. The best you can. Yes, once in a while things can go wrong, it happens. In this case the rule is that he doesn't do what he promises, and the exception, the rarity, is that he actually does. This doesn't work. Mackenzie? Don't care. Mental Health? Don't care (it's really not OUR problem we shouldn't even know about it) Family? Don't care. House fire? Don't care. None of that should EVER be mentioned for any reason whatsoever. If he couldn't make a 2K renders update he shouldn't have promised it. Since he did, publish it. He's already doing a rework (LOL) he could do a few more, Devs do it all the time. If he can't do what he promised, shouldn't have promised it, but should at the very least show something. Or, simply, don't make any fucking promises. Stay silent and publish when ready. Making promises just to fail them is what brought us here.
BD created this nightmare for himself. Only him can solve it. The only way I see it happening is with a steady and silent output of content. Whatever he says right now will only ever work against him. Shut up and show up. That's the only way that in time he will recover a measure of respect from some users. Others, I'm afraid, are too far gone to ever recoup. Others, like me, will never spend money on someone has unreliable as him (even if I had money to spend, it would never be on him).
People here are being "toxic"? Really? To me they are being "Reactive". Some go too far? Not everyone can express themselves as fluidly and cautiously. The harder excesses are being trimmed, I've seen it done.
If you ask me, the major issue with BD and WVM is a communication problem. Ironically, the only class that the MC goes too, but apparently BD never managed to stay awake on. ::FML::
Peace
Does that mean that I am not a critic of how this once cool story is now being thorn apart by it's Dev? No, I am very much pissed off with this Excuser In Chief that had in his hands a cool story and either by actions and inactions have put it in this sorry state.
This LOOOONG time out that could have been used to work on the rework, admittedly quite needed has it was completely ridiculous how long the MC's days were (he's returning to that again, this fucking game day is already so thick with content that it could be a full week). In this time the former edge that this story once had is now dull and common, never mind, I still like it even if it has been done way better and more interestingly since BrainDrop entered his BrainFreeze state.
He's now trying to become relevant again, after his Carbonite phase. Pretending that he makes polls to interact with his community of
This, all of this, created a climate of negativity towards BD, it could have been avoided, it could. But not by users of this forum, not by it's moderators. All this could have been avoided by BD. Instead of catastrophizing each and every excuse, he could have been honest, clear and decent. Yet, he chose the opposite, each, and, every, fucking, time. So much so, that he had to resort to banning patrons, paying patrons. Can anyone get this around it's head? He's banning people that are willing to pay him to keep doing the least possible and do so in the hopes that he sometimes gets something done. Yet, he has to ban them for daring to be critics of his antics. Because the whole thing is now a smoke and mirrors show too fragile to sustain criticism.
I said above that I still love this "story", I do. Doesn't matter to me that many here have since become so jaded that they can't separate BD from WVM, I can't and don't think bad of them, it has been a chore to keep this going (for me) so I can understand them. Do I like the state that this is in? No, not even remotely. Don't I see the pitfalls and glaring plot holes? I do, I really do, but still I can't give up on some of the characters. They are probably not what everyone else looks at, it matters not.
I don't really care about ANY of the issues that BD has or pretends to have. I care about this: If you say you'll do something, you do it. The best you can. Yes, once in a while things can go wrong, it happens. In this case the rule is that he doesn't do what he promises, and the exception, the rarity, is that he actually does. This doesn't work. Mackenzie? Don't care. Mental Health? Don't care (it's really not OUR problem we shouldn't even know about it) Family? Don't care. House fire? Don't care. None of that should EVER be mentioned for any reason whatsoever. If he couldn't make a 2K renders update he shouldn't have promised it. Since he did, publish it. He's already doing a rework (LOL) he could do a few more, Devs do it all the time. If he can't do what he promised, shouldn't have promised it, but should at the very least show something. Or, simply, don't make any fucking promises. Stay silent and publish when ready. Making promises just to fail them is what brought us here.
BD created this nightmare for himself. Only him can solve it. The only way I see it happening is with a steady and silent output of content. Whatever he says right now will only ever work against him. Shut up and show up. That's the only way that in time he will recover a measure of respect from some users. Others, I'm afraid, are too far gone to ever recoup. Others, like me, will never spend money on someone has unreliable as him (even if I had money to spend, it would never be on him).
People here are being "toxic"? Really? To me they are being "Reactive". Some go too far? Not everyone can express themselves as fluidly and cautiously. The harder excesses are being trimmed, I've seen it done.
If you ask me, the major issue with BD and WVM is a communication problem. Ironically, the only class that the MC goes too, but apparently BD never managed to stay awake on. ::FML::
Peace
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Hiya there, peeps. It's been nearly 6 months since i've seen this game, and what did I miss in this meantime?
(also, thread's on fire, yo)
(also, thread's on fire, yo)
I know you took some flak for being too positive about the situation, most likely undeservedly (I have a poor memory but I don’t recall you actively defending him, and I think I may have even given you the gears in the past which I apologize for) and while it’s bittersweet to see you become more “accepting” that BD is a manipulative liar.. I absolutely adore the little nickname you came up with for him. The excuser in chief. I don’t know why, but I love it.
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Facts were compiled weeks ago by some bored user who scanned the thread looking for 'patron-only posts' posted since 2019 and leaked here that contained promises and/or excuses from Dev. It's a fun read if you are not emotionally (or financially) involved in this story, and it's not even updated with the most recent ones. Most of those posts are now gone from BD's official channels, by the way, meaning that his past record of unfulfilled promises is no longer there anymore for new patrons to see: if not for this thread, newcomers would never know how many times this basketball match has been announced as something imminent, then 'tweaked', then postponed, rinse and repeat. When I'm pondering whether I should support a dev whose work I like, I definitely take a look at the available info in his official channels to see how reliable and consistent he is, how he communicates with his patrons, how often updates are actually released and how he tackles the issues that inevitably arise when you're developing a solo project for that long. But BD is deleting that key info under the pretense of it 'not being accurate or relevant anymore' so that patrons can only find his latest excuse and the currently planned date of release. This is a fact; in my opinion, this is also dishonest and unfair to your potential backers, and I would never support a dev doing that -if I somehow manage to know he's doing that, of course. That's not how you should manage your main source of income if you don't want to look like a scammer.
There was I time I said in this very same thread that I didn't really like the game (after the original day 5 or so I realized it had turned into something I just didn't like), but I did love the way BD was doing it, so I kept translating it into Spanish (and not a garbage MTL, mind you; it was a proper hand-made translation). He was talkative, he seemed committed, and he paused pledges whenever he failed to deliver an update. Between 2020 and 2021, pledges were paused for more months than not. Some people were already bashing him for not delivering, but I still defended him because, even though his words and promises felt mostly empty without an actual update, his actions seemed honest: after all, he was rejecting a large sum of money he could have easily cashed in. For that reason, after the failed 2k render update from last year, I was still willing to accept his excuses as I could really see how you can make so many renders, then start second-guessing yourself, then start tweaking them, then end up having way fewer usable renders than your initial batch. And, even if his words were a lie, there was no harm done because he wasn't charging his patrons. I even defended his decision of kicking out patrons who were too harsh in their criticism: paying money doesn't give you the right to be an ass, even if you feel you're right on your claims. There's always a better and more polite way to go about it, and devs shouldn't really stand that kind of toxic behavior.
And that was when he started to charge again, month after month, without delivering what he kept promising. That's when even mods choose to switch sides and started to mock him too instead of duly defending this once honest-looking dev.
At that point, as I couldn't really tell whether he was still genuine or just leading us on (and no one can tell, actually, because no one here lives in his head), I made a silent exit and moved on, although I'd still take a look every once in a while to see how things were going (spoiler: not good). But no matter what I actually think about his excuses, no matter what I think of this Mackenzie and her role, there's still a chance all that he says is true, and I wouldn't like to be the umpteenth guy talking shit about him if that's the case. There's nothing I'd get from doing that, I can get my daily dose of social acceptance anywhere else and by doing something more productive than bashing a dev I'd never support. But I can totally understand other people using this thread as their own cruel playground. It's only human, sadly. There's not really anyone here to hurt anymore, but some uninformed users. If you just discovered this game and were hoping for a healthy place to talk about it, I'm sorry for you, but there's just too much shit happening in the last couple of years to prevent the thread from derailing. It was this happy place, once. Now it just can't be that place ever again. BD and his choices have way too much to do with that, and that's also a fact. You can't just expect that a few dozen people out of thousands of players won't be talking shit about you: it happens when you actually deliver, so for sure it's gonna happen when you don't. It might not be nice to look at, but it's just the way it is.
Lastly, for the guy asking if the duckfaces are a kind of trolling from BD, could someone please tell me if the game still closes if you name Jamie 'Duckface' right at the start? He's been trolling his players since their very first feedback. It was funny back then, now it looks like a terrible move, yet he keeps doubling down on it. I guess it's just the way he is.
There was I time I said in this very same thread that I didn't really like the game (after the original day 5 or so I realized it had turned into something I just didn't like), but I did love the way BD was doing it, so I kept translating it into Spanish (and not a garbage MTL, mind you; it was a proper hand-made translation). He was talkative, he seemed committed, and he paused pledges whenever he failed to deliver an update. Between 2020 and 2021, pledges were paused for more months than not. Some people were already bashing him for not delivering, but I still defended him because, even though his words and promises felt mostly empty without an actual update, his actions seemed honest: after all, he was rejecting a large sum of money he could have easily cashed in. For that reason, after the failed 2k render update from last year, I was still willing to accept his excuses as I could really see how you can make so many renders, then start second-guessing yourself, then start tweaking them, then end up having way fewer usable renders than your initial batch. And, even if his words were a lie, there was no harm done because he wasn't charging his patrons. I even defended his decision of kicking out patrons who were too harsh in their criticism: paying money doesn't give you the right to be an ass, even if you feel you're right on your claims. There's always a better and more polite way to go about it, and devs shouldn't really stand that kind of toxic behavior.
And that was when he started to charge again, month after month, without delivering what he kept promising. That's when even mods choose to switch sides and started to mock him too instead of duly defending this once honest-looking dev.
At that point, as I couldn't really tell whether he was still genuine or just leading us on (and no one can tell, actually, because no one here lives in his head), I made a silent exit and moved on, although I'd still take a look every once in a while to see how things were going (spoiler: not good). But no matter what I actually think about his excuses, no matter what I think of this Mackenzie and her role, there's still a chance all that he says is true, and I wouldn't like to be the umpteenth guy talking shit about him if that's the case. There's nothing I'd get from doing that, I can get my daily dose of social acceptance anywhere else and by doing something more productive than bashing a dev I'd never support. But I can totally understand other people using this thread as their own cruel playground. It's only human, sadly. There's not really anyone here to hurt anymore, but some uninformed users. If you just discovered this game and were hoping for a healthy place to talk about it, I'm sorry for you, but there's just too much shit happening in the last couple of years to prevent the thread from derailing. It was this happy place, once. Now it just can't be that place ever again. BD and his choices have way too much to do with that, and that's also a fact. You can't just expect that a few dozen people out of thousands of players won't be talking shit about you: it happens when you actually deliver, so for sure it's gonna happen when you don't. It might not be nice to look at, but it's just the way it is.
Lastly, for the guy asking if the duckfaces are a kind of trolling from BD, could someone please tell me if the game still closes if you name Jamie 'Duckface' right at the start? He's been trolling his players since their very first feedback. It was funny back then, now it looks like a terrible move, yet he keeps doubling down on it. I guess it's just the way he is.
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credit to cytree for this pretty comprehensive 5000ft view timeline of what the end users of WVM had to endure for quite some time now. Yes, it's a tongue-in-cheek type of list, but nonetheless, it's fairly accurate.
https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-s2-ch-1-ep-4-braindrop.35910/post-9943160
The key takeaway is that the users have been promised many different releases, different amounts of renders, different release dates (that have been missed), etc. In that time, I believe that there were exactly 2 releases (~300, and ~400 renders), and 1 DITLO Harper (~160 renders).
https://f95zone.to/threads/wvm-s2-ch-1-ep-4-braindrop.35910/post-9943160
The key takeaway is that the users have been promised many different releases, different amounts of renders, different release dates (that have been missed), etc. In that time, I believe that there were exactly 2 releases (~300, and ~400 renders), and 1 DITLO Harper (~160 renders).
I'm gonna be honest I can't wait for the game I get the feeling we will get to play
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The fact that the rules aren't being enforced as strictly here only goes to show how bad Braindrop is. There aren't a whole lot of developers who are as universally hated as Braindrop and rightfully so. There's developers who release updates more frequently with less financial incentive and also don't feel the need to delay ever single release a ridiculous number of times.
The entire community here (outside of the huggers and bouncers) is pretty much of the same mindset when it comes to Braindrop, so it would be kind of silly and pointless to try to silence 99% of the people posting here.
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I can see this playing out like that god-awful movie Rocky V. Skye gets injured (maybe seriously) by the "oh so evil" hipster Jax or whatever the hell his name is. Then our hero (who I still say is Chuck Norris behind the black box).... pulls a "you knocked him down, now why don't you try knocking me down".
Harper puts Moncree in, and he proceeds to score 100 points in the 4th quarter (played out in 5 cutscenes), and impregnate all the women in the stands (well the ones that Patreon allows anyways) during the team's only timeout. After the final buzzer our hero stands victorious, with confetti raining down. As Moncree is carried off the court by his harem (with a black box clearly over the MCs head)..... we cut to Cedey with a tear in her eye, "that's my brubru." ... Just for added effect we can also throw in a Michael Bay-esque explosion.
-end scene-
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