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Azel did work for her, unless that was one of the things that was meant to be changed in the rework (that is debatable we will ever see). I mention that, because I recall someone mentioning that the rework was supposed to (potentially) rewrite Rachael as a longtime friend of Azel instead of her boss.
I wasn't in this thread until recently, so I know very little of what the rework was supposed to include, but the "story" is so broken at this point I don't know why BD bothered. And honestly, if it is a different person role-playing as BD, they should have just done a second AVN for this twisted mess that unfurled in that hotel room.
 

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Literally a "CHAD simulator" game.

No wonder it's so popular. Just look at these constant drooling ecstatic dopamine overloaded facial expressions on female characters.
 
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" I had to do a complete replay since my saves weren't working with the Jasmine update " I am on the same boat too...Haven't played it yet because i don't know if I want to replay it from 0 and don't remember all of my choices so far...Alexis hasn't changed much ...but BD made a mistake with her on the following photo check here


Alexis never worked for Rachel!!!
huh. ur still thinking about playing? Last i checked it´s past your deadline and he hasn´t delivered a full update yet :unsure:


Short answer: No

Long Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I guess the rework of the first 9 days would help???? As is, if MC believes what he heard in that scene, does it mean he can't trust anything Azel, Rachael, Lauren, and Willabelle has told him? That is just a level of retcon I don't want to even consider. MC needs to get home, then wake up and discover that whole scene was some bizarre dream/nightmare.

Other option: someone tossed out a theory a couple weeks ago that there has been more than one BD. 1st 9 days written by OG, and then taken over by someone else who pitched the rewrite of the entire story. For reasons, I'm more willing to accept that as possible now, explaining the complete lack of cohesion between the two halves of the game.
The best outcome? At the end of the game you see the MC in the hospital dying. Turns out that the blows in the bowling alley were lethal and everything that happened was just a fantasy due to his severe head trauma
 

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" I had to do a complete replay since my saves weren't working with the Jasmine update " I am on the same boat too...Haven't played it yet because i don't know if I want to replay it from 0 and don't remember all of my choices so far...Alexis hasn't changed much ...but BD made a mistake with her on the following photo check here


Alexis never worked for Rachel!!!
One of the big goals of the remake was to allow you to pursue the girls only available on the cheating path (Alexis, Rachael's Clients, etc) without being a cheating douche, which really doesn't fit with the super good guy persona the MC has later in the story.

There's another line that talks about MC seeing Rachael occasionaly, while Azel works for her, but in the original version he had never met her before picking Azel up from work at the start. I assume these things are being changed in the rework so that MC knows them already, and isn't telling his girlfriend he loves her, then immediately banging two women he just met, or in Alexis's case didn't remember.
 

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Could someone explain why the club owners still have an interest in MC after his paternal Grandmother died?

I get why she wanted him involved, because he was the only male heir and wasn't a fuck up like Mason. With her out of the picture and a consortium which includes Dahlia running things, I see zero reason why MC is so important with all the trouble it is bringing them. :unsure:
Tunneling so hard on him for being a male heir seems extra pointless since his GRANDMOTHER is in charge. If a woman's been the head honcho for so long, does anyone really buy into the need for the male heir? Royals pull that shit and the only thing it does is give strict rules for succession which still have had a history of conflict. In this case? Grandma could've chosen any of his half-sisters to take over for her and the only male heir would never have realized, eliminating conflict.

But I guess constantly making him the next coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (may his noodly appendages plow all your holes) is the point.
 

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Tunneling so hard on him for being a male heir seems extra pointless since his GRANDMOTHER is in charge. If a woman's been the head honcho for so long, does anyone really buy into the need for the male heir? Royals pull that shit and the only thing it does is give strict rules for succession which still have had a history of conflict. In this case? Grandma could've chosen any of his half-sisters to take over for her and the only male heir would never have realized, eliminating conflict.

But I guess constantly making him the next coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (may his noodly appendages plow all your holes) is the point.
It actually tracks as making sense, if Grandma is controlling it due to grandpa passing, and dad being a habitual drug addicted abuser. Dad wouldn't of been stable enough, or trustworthy enough to run stuff. My guess is this club would still be seeking out the proper male heir to run the show with likely a half sister, or an aunt at the lead temporarily (just a guess, and had to fill in a ton of blanks with assumptions). Since we know 0 about the structure, I'm just assuming they want the male family member at the head of it due to tradition or whatever, and women are typically support to the head. My assumption is that Grandma and whomever else were at the head, didn't want to do it, but had to out of necessity.

This is all under the assumption that BD is going to use the obvious plot points I put above, or if he is going to try and 5D chess his way through mental gymnastics to pull something else off.
 

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One of the big goals of the remake was to allow you to pursue the girls only available on the cheating path (Alexis, Rachael's Clients, etc) without being a cheating douche, which really doesn't fit with the super good guy persona the MC has later in the story.

There's another line that talks about MC seeing Rachael occasionaly, while Azel works for her, but in the original version he had never met her before picking Azel up from work at the start. I assume these things are being changed in the rework so that MC knows them already, and isn't telling his girlfriend he loves her, then immediately banging two women he just met, or in Alexis's case didn't remember.
Alexis is a former highschool classmate of MC's and was in love with him but never confess, she saw him at teh dinner and offer him sex...
 

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Alexis is a former highschool classmate of MC's and was in love with him but never confess, she saw him at teh dinner and offer him sex...
And like I said, that is no longer what the story will be in the rework. The updates after episode 8ish that Braindrop is putting out are written assuming the rework has already happened, so he doesn't have to go and rework all the episodes after EP. 8 when the rework actually releases approximately 50 years from now.

That is why MC knows people like 4T and Granny the first time we see them. It's why there are lines that are inaccurate about Alexis and Rachael, etc. They will be correct in the future if the rework drops, but they don't match the current versions of episodes 1-7 that we have now.
 

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And like I said, that is no longer what the story will be in the rework. The updates after episode 8ish that Braindrop is putting out are written assuming the rework has already happened, so he doesn't have to go and rework all the episodes after EP. 8 when the rework actually releases approximately 50 years from now.

That is why MC knows people like 4T and Granny the first time we see them. It's why there are lines that are inaccurate about Alexis and Rachael, etc. They will be correct in the future if the rework drops, but they don't match the current versions of episodes 1-7 that we have now.
I think that he talked to 4T at college when Charles put him on Valerie's class
 

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I think that he talked to 4T at college when Charles put him on Valerie's class
You're confusing events that happened before and after the point where the rework would cover. After episode 7 was released Braindrop decided to do the rework. Every update he released after that is written as though the rework happened. 4T was never in it before then. Neither was Granny. But the first time the MC meets them he is like "Hey 4t" or "Nice to see you again Granny" even though you have never seen them in game before that point, because they didn't exist until he started writing the rework.

That is what is happening with Alexis in the new scene. In the original version she was just a former classmate. In the rework she will have been Rachael's receptionist (and I assume still a former classmate). But the new updates are written using the info from the rework. So it's not a mistake, but it won't be accurate for us until the reworked first 7 chapters are released.

And with regards to your specific comment, you're wrong. 1) It's Veronica's class, Valerie is her mother the cop. 2) 4T is not in that class, at least not in the original scene. I just replayed it like two hours ago. 4T wasn't even in the game when that scene was released.
 

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" I had to do a complete replay since my saves weren't working with the Jasmine update " I am on the same boat too...Haven't played it yet because i don't know if I want to replay it from 0 and don't remember all of my choices so far...Alexis hasn't changed much ...but BD made a mistake with her on the following photo check here


Alexis never worked for Rachel!!!
Could be another week 1 rework story change, like how Ryker is now suspposedly excited about the MC coming to WVM. They even apparently have a good first meeting, thwn he finds out about his Mom and starts his villian era.

Which is weird because the current game strongly implies Ryker was involved in sports betting and purposely tanked WVM last season.
 
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You're confusing events that happened before and after the point where the rework would cover. After episode 7 was released Braindrop decided to do the rework. Every update he released after that is written as though the rework happened. 4T was never in it before then. Neither was Granny. But the first time the MC meets them he is like "Hey 4t" or "Nice to see you again Granny" even though you have never seen them in game before that point, because they didn't exist until he started writing the rework.

That is what is happening with Alexis in the new scene. In the original version she was just a former classmate. In the rework she will have been Rachael's receptionist (and I assume still a former classmate). But the new updates are written using the info from the rework. So it's not a mistake, but it won't be accurate for us until the reworked first 7 chapters are released.

And with regards to your specific comment, you're wrong. 1) It's Veronica's class, Valerie is her mother the cop. 2) 4T is not in that class, at least not in the original scene. I just replayed it like two hours ago. 4T wasn't even in the game when that scene was released.
That it requires that much explanation to justify just how f*ing jacked this game is, how many years after this rework was proposed, highlights how bad the odds are of it ever happening. Is there some kind of magic line in the sand where anyone who wasn't following this game ages ago could reference to go, "Oh, just forget any bit of story prior to X"? If I recall, someone recently said the rework statement came out in early 2021, so that would be 4 years since it was declared. Is Episode 7 equate to Day 7, when Willow becodes Cedar? Granny and 4t don't appear until after the day 1032 declaration in-game.
 

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Could be another week 1 rework story change, like how Ryker is now suspposedly excited about the MC coming to WVM. They even apparently have a good first meeting, thwn he finds out about his Mom and starts his villian era.

Which is weird because the current game strongly implies Ryker was involved in sports betting and purposely tanked WVM last season.
So instead of do some character changes , he changes the plot and destroying the game even more???
 

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I wasn't in this thread until recently, so I know very little of what the rework was supposed to include, but the "story" is so broken at this point I don't know why BD bothered. And honestly, if it is a different person role-playing as BD, they should have just done a second AVN for this twisted mess that unfurled in that hotel room.
In the beginning WVM was a porn game.. but for some reason BD decided to add story to it...the whole get as many women as possible pregnant is not exactly the best story...
 

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In the beginning WVM was a porn game.. but for some reason BD decided to add story to it...the whole get as many women as possible pregnant is not exactly the best story...
Yeah, but then while adding the story, BD also included what appears to be a counter variable named GrannyCreampie, although he might have just added Creampie counters for almost every character in the game as one does when making a story instead of a porn game. They're also there for Millie, Margaret, Daliah, and Valerie, but not for Yuki?
 

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Yeah, but then while adding the story, BD also included what appears to be a counter variable named GrannyCreampie, although he might have just added Creampie counters for almost every character in the game as one does when making a story instead of a porn game. They're also there for Millie, Margaret, Daliah, and Valerie, but not for Yuki?
There is 0 to very little content with Millie, Margaret, Daliah, Margaret has less screen time than Shanks has in one piece as for Millie she is obsesssed with her husband more than Cindy the rich woman on the yacht, Daliah does not seem to have erotic desire towards the MC
 
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