VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 B7] [Braindrop]

[EclipseTheStars]

((BEFORE POSTING THIS, I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE THAN BEING UPSET OVER A PORN GAME. I DO NOT LET THIS "HOBBY" OF MINE AFFECT MY REAL-WORLD LIFE WITH MY HUSBAND AND OUR PETS. THAT BEING SAID, HERE IS ANOTHER PISSY UPDATE))


this guy seriously trying to gaslight me, fortunately, another user jumped in to have my back almost immediately

EDIT (ME FROM THE FUTURE) : a handful of us had a little bonfire moment after this happened, a few of the mods and "haters" chilling out, it was mostly productive, and i mention it because it'd be great if this game got back on track, i'm just not posting it in screenies because i feel (let's be honest) it'll be taken the wrong way on here

no, it didn't involve the Dev, otherwise i'd post it for sure, peace

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

((BEFORE POSTING THIS, I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE THAN BEING UPSET OVER A PORN GAME. I DO NOT LET THIS "HOBBY" OF MINE AFFECT MY REAL-WORLD LIFE WITH MY HUSBAND AND OUR PETS. THAT BEING SAID, HERE IS ANOTHER PISSY UPDATE))

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this guy seriously trying to gaslight me, fortunately, another user jumped in to have my back almost immediately

I'd really have to hope that the real K7 has better things to do than to waste his time performing damage control for one of the worst scammers to ever enter the AVN market. I'd be a little disappointed if that's not just a fake using his name for attention.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

I'd really have to hope that the real K7 has better things to do than to waste his time performing damage control for one of the worst scammers to ever enter the AVN market. I'd be a little disappointed if that's not just a fake using his name for attention.

nah, i can confirm, 100%, it is K7 the game developer :/


another reason i was like "wtf, r u serious right now?"

 

[gholmes]

so, this guy puts his heart on his sleeve, and i feel that i try to compromise with him, right??

but i guess the respect only goes one-way, and common sense falls on deaf ears :/

Just drop "Sunk-Cost Fallacy" in there and you'll rile them up real quick

 

[Sterling_Archer77]

So did we ever decide where we're putting the over/under on when "Near Future" is for the Jasmine update (Beta 6 or whatever damn number BD decides it is now)? I'll start it at 5 months...

 

[preglovr12]

So did we ever decide where we're putting the over/under on when "Near Future" is for the Jasmine update (Beta 6 or whatever damn number BD decides it is now)? I'll start it at 5 months...

The line should be four months. The super bowl is Feb 9th so that gives him the short month of February to scrape something together.

 

[Black Orchid]

I'd really have to hope that the real K7 has better things to do than to waste his time performing damage control for one of the worst scammers to ever enter the AVN market. I'd be a little disappointed if that's not just a fake using his name for attention.

if you look at the development of his game it's hardly any better. he will probably go down the same path if he's insisting on defending him.

 

[Akabakka]

WVM has the potential to, at the least, be above-average for story telling (potential)

I know I'm the quintessential hater, but it's a hard disagree for me . For that to happen a lot of stuff gotta change and be fixed. The writing, dialogues, pacing etc ain't there. Honestly all the game had going for it before being 'ruined", was the cool original premise (which it does not even follow, very early on), and tons of hot rendered chicks.

Which is fine and more than enough for a popular porn game, but no way near enough to call it "potential to be above average". At least that's my take.

EDIt : i'll also add Shauna's idea and concept, at least early on... among the true positives of the game

 

[AlexTorch]

Man, imagine me calling a dude who is fucking mental out on a discord I am on. Has nothing to do with defending anyone but that person is obsessed with braindrop. Its actually insane, you have to see some of the stuff he writes there... Besides, that stuff doesnt take anything from my time. Just being a little funny and doing a little trolling, you know how it is, downtime between doing renders and stuff. But yeah, I rarely check that Text channel but basically only saw this person yapping nonstop. Seemed funny to me.

Let them kill themselves and just laugh at them, why taint your name by saying anything on that place? You can be right on what you thought but now people will say that you defended a scammer, sometimes is best just look and laugh and don't get yourself deep in shit, braindrop is a big boy, he can ( ) handle himself...i guess....

 

[EclipseTheStars]

I know I'm the quintessential hater, but it's a hard disagree for me . For that to happen a lot of stuff gotta change and be fixed. The writing, dialogues, pacing etc ain't there. Honestly all the game had going for it before being 'ruined", was the cool original premise (which it does not even follow, very early on), and tons of hot rendered chicks.

Which is fine and more than enough for a popular porn game, but no way near enough to call it "potential to be above average". At least that's my take.

EDIt : i'll also add Shauna's idea and concept, at least early on... among the true positives of the game

i think, realistically speaking, you're correct

"BrainDrop" will not be the person to turn things around, if it ever does get turned around

i believe he will struggle through CH13 until sometime next year, force out CH14 at sometime around the holiday season, and then officially abandon the game

 

[Better Cock Spock]

and then officially abandon the game

At which point, everyone here will be to blame for being toxic haters

 

[EclipseTheStars]

FROM K7:

Man, imagine me calling a dude who is fucking mental out on a discord I am on. Has nothing to do with defending anyone but that person is obsessed with braindrop. Its actually insane, you have to see some of the stuff he writes there... Besides, that stuff doesnt take anything from my time. Just being a little funny and doing a little trolling, you know how it is, downtime between doing renders and stuff. But yeah, I rarely check that Text channel but basically only saw this person yapping nonstop. Seemed funny to me.

FROM ALEXTORCH :

Let them kill themselves and just laugh at them, why taint your name by saying anything on that place? You can be right on what you thought but now people will say that you defended a scammer, sometimes is best just look and laugh and don't get yourself deep in shit, braindrop is a big boy, he can ( ) handle himself...i guess....

K7 is a complete liar

1) I did not re-enter that channel until a few months ago, and only at the REQUEST of this thread, specifically.
2) You guys already see roughly 95% of everything I post there. Which over 3 months is not actually "a lot".
3) The incident K7 mentioned was roughly ... maybe 3 responses from me going towards a "reverse-uno" hater. Nothing more.
4) K7 has me blocked/muted on this site so I didn't even know this was posted until someone else quoted it.
5) If any of you have any faith in me over the last 3 or 4 months, posted all my replies and the replies of others, including the Developer, for all to see with no censorship, this guy is STRAIGHT LYING out his ass.

also, i meant the quote, not the person i "have" to quote because i can't actually see K7s posts
oh, and since i got the reputation:



i was literally at that guy's page verifying he was actually the developer on here shit-talking me for no reason when he posted that, then immediately went to my page and block/muted me
that was on purpose, and pre-meditated - he didn't just come in here on accident and be upset

if any one of the long-time regulars on this thread that i have good rapport with asked me to stop posting screenshots, i'd drop it right now, but i don't think a single person i'm on good terms with that asked me to do screenies in the first place would ask me to stop, no has for about 3 months now, so ...

 

[Akabakka]

Honestly, while i get the urge, as it's personal , there isn't a need to defend yourself. Any dev that comes around defending BD, i read it as either troll and/or being clueless and oblivious. Love their games and all of that, but they clearly got it twisted if they think they can run damage control for an exposed grifter at this point .

Maybe some of us are obsessed, if they wanna call it like that. Maybe it's true at this point , but from my perspective, I'm just using some down time to check on stuff and post a bit. Hell even if it was true, this still does not change the truths about the game, its dev, his little army of sycophants and followers, and the people they prey upon at this point.

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Honestly, while i get the urge, as it's personal , there isn't a need to defend yourself. Any dev that comes around defending BD, i read it as either troll and/or being clueless and oblivious. Love their games and all of that, but they clearly got it twisted if they think they can run damage control for an exposed grifter at this point .

Maybe some of us are obsessed, if they wanna call it like that. Maybe it's true at this point , but from my perspective, I'm just using some down time to check on stuff and post a bit. Hell even if it was true, this still does not change the truths about the game, its dev, his little army of sycophants and followers, and the people they prey upon at this point.

someone had sent me something like that earlier, which is why one of my posts has the ALLCAPS disclaimer, but i might be taking things too seriously, and i don't mean Borpa obsession, honestly, he posts maybe once a week (and then only a few posts at those times) since the OCT16 fiasco ...

for me, it's a bit of a fix, like a drug...just a little bit; seeing that Discord and that Developer do the things they do - - almost like some weird, fucked up social experiment gone wrong

i suppose the last month, i *HAVE* been taking it more personally since that whole Morbil/BrainDrop/Patreon explosion when the last update went to shit ... maybe i should just step away for a few weeks, idk

 

[jonnyd901]

Honestly, while i get the urge, as it's personal , there isn't a need to defend yourself. Any dev that comes around defending BD, i read it as either troll and/or being clueless and oblivious. Love their games and all of that, but they clearly got it twisted if they think they can run damage control for an exposed grifter at this point .

Maybe some of us are obsessed, if they wanna call it like that. Maybe it's true at this point , but from my perspective, I'm just using some down time to check on stuff and post a bit. Hell even if it was true, this still does not change the truths about the game, its dev, his little army of sycophants and followers, and the people they prey upon at this point.

Very good points I remember when the last dev of well established games came in here on BD's defence only because of what he went through but was on the assumption of being told what the comments were not why they were being said in the 1st place.
Eclipse don't feel bad about all this I would be doing exactly what you were doing if I had supported him as you did. All this shit that supposedly is happening with BD not once did he long term pause the payments. Just take take Dark Blue as one example having losing a sibling stepping away from the game but had the decency to pause payments until he was ready to return. Philly paused his after completing COBD and will un pause once he got his next game ready.
These are just 2 examples of many but stand out more but I would be extremely pissed like you Eclipse since this game has no music,no planning,no multi paths, no mini games ect ect. This game should be getting updates more regular but he can't even get that right so I wouldn't worry about it your correct in what your saying and every right to question his work since you were paying towards it

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Very good points I remember when the last dev of well established games came in here on BD's defence only because of what he went through but was on the assumption of being told what the comments were not why they were being said in the 1st place.
Eclipse don't feel bad about all this I would be doing exactly what you were doing if I had supported him as you did. All this shit that supposedly is happening with BD not once did he long term pause the payments. Just take take Dark Blue as one example having losing a sibling stepping away from the game but had the decency to pause payments until he was ready to return. Philly paused his after completing COBD and will un pause once he got his next game ready.
These are just 2 examples of many but stand out more but I would be extremely pissed like you Eclipse since this game has no music,no planning,no multi paths, no mini games ect ect. This game should be getting updates more regular but he can't even get that right so I wouldn't worry about it your correct in what your saying and every right to question his work since you were paying towards it

it's nice to have a kindred spirit in the chat; i don't go to things i don't like and just piss on them

i really liked this game, and it *IS* just a game, but ...

i think what irks me the most is the reality behind it, the lies, the money, the real-world interactions that apply when you enter F95, Patreon, SubscribeStar, and (Steam) for those successful enough to get accepted there

i've invested over 5 years of my life following this person, and while most of them were pretty cool, man, it just hits different sometimes, and trust me, i do follow many other artists on here, and i spend time in their discords too, i feel a need to say that i'm NOT like this anywhere else

if people from Harem Hotel or AgentRedGirl for example, were to see my behavior here, they would be shocked (but would probably understand); it's just something about this guy that rubs me the wrong way, and i can't get the itch out :/

 

[jamdan]

In general if you have a public Discord and it becomes toxic that's one thing. You can't really control who joins it, most of the people on most public game/AVN Discords aren't actually paying for anything and have various motives for joining (some good, some bad).

However, if you have a sub only Discord and it ends up being toxic, then you may have an issue. People literally pay to be there, and if they're being toxic (or whatever other word you want to use) then odds are they have good reason to be. They may not all post, but based on the reaction score (the emoji reactions and such) a pretty decent number of BD's paying supporters agree with them.

And it's hard not to. Even as someone who generally defends devs, there hasn't been a more obvious case of a large/well-known developer taking advantage of their fans if not purposely lying and manipulating them.

This update alone (which was supposedly due last year, I think) missed dozens of deadlines, was in various stages of testing for months, and upon release, BD decided to cut 100 renders from it (about 15-20% of the total update) for whatever reason.

 

[jonnyd901]

it's nice to have a kindred spirit in the chat; i don't go to things i don't like and just piss on them

i really liked this game, and it *IS* just a game, but ...

i think what irks me the most is the reality behind it, the lies, the money, the real-world interactions that apply when you enter F95, Patreon, SubscribeStar, and (Steam) for those successful enough to get accepted there

i've invested over 5 years of my life following this person, and while most of them were pretty cool, man, it just hits different sometimes, and trust me, i do follow many other artists on here, and i spend time in their discords too, i feel a need to say that i'm NOT like this anywhere else

if people from Harem Hotel or AgentRedGirl for example, were to see my behavior here, they would be shocked (but would probably understand); it's just something about this guy that rubs me the wrong way, and i can't get the itch out :/

It's due to actions from BD that other dev's get the worse end of it then everyone else pays the price when they can't afford to continue the game.

Not everyone can afford to sub every game but one thing I do is drop them some money once they release an update just like buying some DLC on the major platforms.

BD doesn't know how lucky he is and really hope that comes crashing down. Just look at Ceolag the dev for the Neverwhere tales he is in regular contact with his patreons and with people on here, doesn't even get the subs BD has. His game is far better but when he released it and then it got leaked quicker than he thought he would. This caused him to lose a load of money not making hardly anything from it due to the tax laws of his country.

Maybe those discord supporters of his should have a good look elsewhere when dev's are developing and getting little in return while BD does nothing takes everything but give nothing back

 

[COACHRIDDLA]

Anything yet with Harper?

 

[EclipseTheStars]

Anything yet with Harper?

i am pretty sure there has been Harper material in the game for at least a year now, someone correct me if i'm wrong

(yes, i mean MATERIAL, not "material" )