Not really. A kiss is an act of affection and is not implicitly or explicitly sexual. True, it's not common for family to kiss each other on the mouth. But it's also not a horrible thing to do.
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The issue is not the kiss, but rather the way it sexualizes meetings with mothers, anyway, I started playing recently so I don't know what the dev's initial idea was, I just hope he does the rework from day 1 - 8.
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Funny how you mention this as "getting back to the story" when I'm 90% sure we'll never see Ryker again outside of a few shots of him being arrested or something similar.Everyone keeps talking about "Fix the story" "Too many girls" "It can't be fixed at this point, start over." "There is no story anymore"... There actually is a story, it's buried under lots of other nonsense though. So, here's my sugestion on how to get back to the story....
When the plane lands, Veronica, the Police woman, meets the MC at the airport and tells him that while he was in the air, all the girls that wern't with him were waiting for him to surprise him at home and the douche bag he fought at the bowling alley planted a bomb at his house that went off early and killed half of the harem. Hurt over the loss, the remaining members of the group "circle the wagons" and don't let anyone else in for fear of loosing them one day. MC concerns himself with only his girls and Basketball from then on. Can also give the rest of the story a moral lesson on dealing with greif and loss properly (not by fucking everything in site.)
It may be a bit morbid, but hey, my day job is in the funeral industry.
Uthuriel
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Nah bro... killing LIs is just a huge no.Everyone keeps talking about "Fix the story" "Too many girls" "It can't be fixed at this point, start over." "There is no story anymore"... There actually is a story, it's buried under lots of other nonsense though. So, here's my sugestion on how to get back to the story....
When the plane lands, Veronica, the Police woman, meets the MC at the airport and tells him that while he was in the air, all the girls that wern't with him were waiting for him to surprise him at home and the douche bag he fought at the bowling alley planted a bomb at his house that went off early and killed half of the harem. Hurt over the loss, the remaining members of the group "circle the wagons" and don't let anyone else in for fear of loosing them one day. MC concerns himself with only his girls and Basketball from then on. Can also give the rest of the story a moral lesson on dealing with greif and loss properly (not by fucking everything in site.)
It may be a bit morbid, but hey, my day job is in the funeral industry.
Huge yes, just drop a meteor on everything. Burn it all to the ground
Uthuriel
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Yeah... but on BDs house not some innocent girls...
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Well we are not trying to re write the story, at least i am not , i just said that in my opinion a little more story focus instead of having sex with every female might made the story even better that is allWhy are so many people trying to re-write the story for the Dev?
WVM is great as it is. Few porn games give you that feelsgood vibe as well as WVM does. Feels more like a family than some actual families. I don't care if he adds a hundred more characters as long as he keeps being the MC who takes care of everyone.
Nah, bro, if we're talking about girls who never needed to to be added, Talismah is number fucking 1 on that list. She is a completely pointless character who only serves as an unnecessary redundancy in Rachel's backstory and overall is a tremendous waste of time. Not to mention the fact that I literally can't even tell if she's supposed to be a LI or not, which is really saying something in this game.
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I had completely forgotten about that character, but the same can be said for 80% of the cast. There's just way too many and has been for a long long time now. The core group of girls get put on the backburner because the dev feels the need to add 6+ additional oneshot girls because reasons.
I miss the initial updates of the game since there was a story somewhat. A loose plotline to follow while having a core group of LI. Now even the dev pokes fun at the MC's random vacations. "Yes I know this vacation is completely random, but I needed someway to add another 8 girls"
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Excuse me, but.... What story?Why are so many people trying to re-write the story for the Dev?
WVM is great as it is. Few porn games give you that feelsgood vibe as well as WVM does. Feels more like a family than some actual families. I don't care if he adds a hundred more characters as long as he keeps being the MC who takes care of everyone.
WVM lost the plot around the time you created your account Funny enough, your only 2 posts are here. Smells like another burner account And what feelsgood vibe? The kind where everyone falls on MC´s Dick after the first sentence? Or the one where everyone falls in love with him at first sight? The characters besides SOME of the initial LI´s have no soul at all. You want serious feelsgood vibes? Maybe try games like Eternum, Dropout Saga or Cosy Cafe. Stating that WVM in 2024 has a story whatsovever besides fucking every woman he meets is just a blatant lie
WVM at this point is like fucking a Braindead person in the Hospital bed. It´s already dead, but ppl still cling to it for some reason.
The only way BD could redeem himself is by starting a new project under a different name. But guess what? He won´t ever do that because he´d lose all the free money he´s getting for doing jackshit.
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He could also undo all this dumbassery by claiming everything since the bowling alley was a coma dream he had after getting the shit kicked out of him. Goes to the prison, cuddles with Skye, slips into a coma from the concussion, wake up later after "all of this was just a dream."
Go back to concentrating on the College, revert Elizabeth's and Ruby's character models, don't introduce new characters every single update, finish the game sometime within the next 20 years.
Go back to concentrating on the College, revert Elizabeth's and Ruby's character models, don't introduce new characters every single update, finish the game sometime within the next 20 years.
Your expectations are pretty high
Though for me, the number 1 character whose model needs to be reverted is... forgot her name. Ryker's sister. The model change was a wtf moment for me. Like it's... decent I guess in general? Or at least if it's a new character it can be accepted? But the change was just so weird.
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That would be an instant abandon for meEveryone keeps talking about "Fix the story" "Too many girls" "It can't be fixed at this point, start over." "There is no story anymore"... There actually is a story, it's buried under lots of other nonsense though. So, here's my sugestion on how to get back to the story....
When the plane lands, Veronica, the Police woman, meets the MC at the airport and tells him that while he was in the air, all the girls that wern't with him were waiting for him to surprise him at home and the douche bag he fought at the bowling alley planted a bomb at his house that went off early and killed half of the harem. Hurt over the loss, the remaining members of the group "circle the wagons" and don't let anyone else in for fear of loosing them one day. MC concerns himself with only his girls and Basketball from then on. Can also give the rest of the story a moral lesson on dealing with greif and loss properly (not by fucking everything in site.)
It may be a bit morbid, but hey, my day job is in the funeral industry.
Its not a solution, it just quitting the story and try to rebuild it. As if its dirt that you sweep, which would be terrible for the game
Theres literally no story anymore man its just a walking fuckfest atm.Why are so many people trying to re-write the story for the Dev?
WVM is great as it is. Few porn games give you that feelsgood vibe as well as WVM does. Feels more like a family than some actual families. I don't care if he adds a hundred more characters as long as he keeps being the MC who takes care of everyone.
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We already heard about him writing a book or something about the whole mess with the MC just a week (game time) ago. It was on the TV. And his sister is part of our harem.
Oh and did I forget to mention that in my sugestion, the reason the bomb went off early was because Ryker didn't know what he was doing and blew himself to hell?
Then we really won't have to worry about any more nonsense from him popping up.Are they really LI's if you haven't made a commitment to them? Or are they just side pieces that keep gumming up the works/story? Not everyone living at the house is an LI, and not everyone who's not with the MC would need to be caught in the explosion...
Anyway. Like I said, just a random joking thought, from a guy who is probably way too comfortable with death...
Don't worry, I don't actually support the idea of killing off LI's. I sure won't be killing off any LI's in my game. I mean the best games imulate life to some degree, so someone's eventually gonna die, but not an LI...
Lots of these games have death in them, one on this site starts with the parents death and reconciling the children, another is about taking care of a friends little sister after the friend dies, another is about jumping through hoops to get an inheritance from a very twisted dead father, and one very harsh one has the MC's best friend die at the end.
How many of these incest games start with "After your father's death..."
Just saying, Death is pretty comon place in AVN's. But you're right Uthuriel, Rule #1 is... "Don't kill an LI."
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There are quite a few other games that give you that "feelsgood vibe" with characters that feel "more like a family than some actual families", but they actually succede in telling a story at the same time. some of them very heartwarming, with morals and everything.Why are so many people trying to re-write the story for the Dev?
WVM is great as it is. Few porn games give you that feelsgood vibe as well as WVM does. Feels more like a family than some actual families. I don't care if he adds a hundred more characters as long as he keeps being the MC who takes care of everyone.
It's called a "Visual Novel" for a reason. There's supposed to be a story.
Sounds like kink-shaming to me.
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A week ago in game? so a few years ago real time? no wonder I forgot that.
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Like the famous "Who shot JR?" season on Dallas. Turned out the whole season was just Bobby's dream. (For those who are too young to know, Dallas was a TV show in the 1980's)
Could work.
I've been playing it way longer. Just haven't been around on F95 for very long, nor am I very active on here. Only recently found out that it tends to be the quickest updates and miss less titles than other sites. This is just one of my fav VNs and so it bugged me that all the talk about the update is people trying to push their own "ideal version". I understand that "early access" gaming is a bit of an exception, but usually, consumers of creative expression don't get a say in the product. Just let the creator create their work, then like about it what you like about it, dislike what you dislike. Plus we're all freeplay consumers. If you want a say in the game get a Patreon, idk about this dev specifically but some do take polls about what people who actually support their work want to see.Excuse me, but.... What story?
And what feelsgood vibe? The kind where everyone falls on MC´s Dick after the first sentence? Or the one where everyone falls in love with him at first sight? The characters besides SOME of the initial LI´s have no soul at all. You want serious feelsgood vibes? Maybe try games like Eternum, Dropout Saga or Cosy Cafe. Stating that WVM in 2024 has a story whatsovever besides fucking every woman he meets is just a blatant lie
WVM at this point is like fucking a Braindead person in the Hospital bed. It´s already dead, but ppl still cling to it for some reason.
The only way BD could redeem himself is by starting a new project under a different name. But guess what? He won´t ever do that because he´d lose all the free money he´s getting for doing jackshit.
If you don't like WVM because it's not realistic enough for you, then feel free to make a VN about a guy who looks at girls from a distance. It's a sexual fantasy for a reason. If you don't like people falling in love with your character or having sex with him, I don't really know what you're here for. It's feelsgood because he becomes a positive influence in their lives, and they support him in return. There are porn games on the taboo/darker/manipulative side and games on the feelsgood/vanilla-with-fetishes side. To me, WVM is on the latter side. There are also games that leave it up to the player to choose to take the kind or manipulative approach, but those stories still tend to progress in a linear fashion and "having to fit both paths" affects the story.
Of course, you're free not to like it. But why are you trying so hard to convince other people not to like it? When I don't like a creative product, I just don't spend any time on it. If you wanna give up on the game, feel free. But why try to undermine something that other people enjoy?