VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 B7] [Braindrop]

[Ptah]

dare to talk?me? yeah not only dare kiddo but i can do more than that,but i dont disrecpect other ppl for playing starfucking citizen or hwaterver you are playing on your p5....i dont kink shame anybody and dont need to know all the dev's names who do 2 updates or 19 [whatever] to know that i didt like the game or not,.....ds is a good game but isnt for me,....ntr,sandbox, those 2 i dont even play in the same game at all not that one not anything,..ds is a good game and thats all,..is my taste not yours and even if you dont like i dont tell you to fuck off and lgo play again zelda 23 thousand....

OH, you're just confused, I don't give a flying fuck what your taste is, but seeing what you consider "good writing" like this or grandma... I already know your taste SUCKS. And YES art is OBJECTIVE, all that bullshit that everything depends on taste is BULLSHIT. ALL art has parameters to measure it's quality. So, yes, you're totally entitled to have your own taste, and in your case, to be disgustingly horrible. I wouldn't give a fuck if you feed yourself with dog turds, but don't make ME pretend you're a "gourmet". You got it?

 

[333Playing]

 

[WhiteyG]

Well i don't doubt that " Unfortunately I've had many friends and family members go through these struggles. So why this may seem like it's out of nowhere, trust me it's not." But just for the sake of argument and sharing a thought about what you said, Id BD does use drugs wouldn't his familly take any type of measures to save his life from the addiction by sending him in a rehab clinic??? I mean no disrespect to you for thinking that but it seems logical to me that if i had a brother/son/nephew etc addicted to drugs to actually do something to help him out

Well I'm not on the inside to have the answer to that. But if you want reasons why that wouldn't happen. They may have their own problems (drugs or other) or are simply enabling him not realizing the extent of the problem. You also forget that he is supporting them, if he wasn't lying about that. Which brings in the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. He could also just say if I have to go to rehab I have to pause and then you can't pay your bills. There are a bunch of reason why they wouldn't or couldn't step in. I don't know the people he has around him. But addicts are usually surrounded with enablers and other addicts.

Look I don't know BD at all. Feel free to chalk this up as someone's random speculation. Though I'd bet real money right now that he'd fail a drug test today, and I don't mean for marijuana. There are simply to many signs for me to think I'm wrong. Hopefully I am because I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even BD. Probably

 

[skullbuster]

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In the near future = 3 months?

 

[byaaahh]

In the near future = 3 months?

At the rate BD is going with constant delays and content he claims is done but never materializes, I'm guessing 5+ months for b6 if it arrives at all.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Well I'm not on the inside to have the answer to that. But if you want reasons why that wouldn't happen. They may have their own problems (drugs or other) or are simply enabling him not realizing the extent of the problem. You also forget that he is supporting them, if he wasn't lying about that. Which brings in the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules. He could also just say if I have to go to rehab I have to pause and then you can't pay your bills. There are a bunch of reason why they wouldn't or couldn't step in. I don't know the people he has around him. But addicts are usually surrounded with enablers and other addicts.

Look I don't know BD at all. Feel free to chalk this up as someone's random speculation. Though I'd bet real money right now that he'd fail a drug test today, and I don't mean for marijuana. There are simply to many signs for me to think I'm wrong. Hopefully I am because I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even BD. Probably

Well i don't know BD either it's just my opinion in what could be the case if he is a drug addict ... I hope that you are wrong as well , i had a family friend who was a drug addict and his parents were struggling to help him deal with that so that is why i asked the hypothetical question....

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

that could be it but my theory that i brought up multiple times before about the dev being a different person seems starts seeming more and more plausible

I might be wrong but if the dev is a different person shouldn't he create a different Patreon account for the financing of the game ???I am just saying that is what i would expect if someone other than BD ever took over the game to make a new Patreon account

 

[WhiteyG]

that could be it but my theory that i brought up multiple times before about the dev being a different person seems starts seeming more and more plausible

I thought this was a possibility at one point, because he seems so different and the development went off the rails. Looking at it realistically though I'd say it's highly unlikely. This game was so successful right from the start. How much would it take to buy it out? At least a few hundred thousand if it was me. That's just the starting point. If he kept a percentage of the game I'm sure he'd have the option to take the game back if the development wasn't to his liking or if the new developer was bleeding supporters. That's something you would do with someone you know and trust. Whoever this is sure as shit isn't trustworthy.

Hey almost anything is possible, life has taught me that.

Well i don't know BD either it's just my opinion in what could be the case if he is a drug addict ... I hope that you are wrong as well , i had a family friend who was a drug addict and his parents were struggling to help him deal with that so that is why i asked the hypothetical question....

Yeah it's a nightmare. Hopefully it worked out okay for them.

I might be wrong but if the dev is a different person shouldn't he create a different Patreon account for the financing of the game ???I am just saying that is what i would expect if someone other than BD ever took over the game to make a new Patreon account

Unless it's a friend and they didn't want anyone to know out of fear of losing support. I don't think that's the case, but it's possible. As much as things have gone off the rails I think he would've taken development back. Unless he's getting money and doesn't care.

 

[pecard255]

Well i don't know BD either it's just my opinion in what could be the case if he is a drug addict ... I hope that you are wrong as well , i had a family friend who was a drug addict and his parents were struggling to help him deal with that so that is why i asked the hypothetical question....

Sadly,
If this is true then, as experience shows he will have to hit his rock bottom before anything changes.
Things will have to go SPLAT first before conditions improve.

 

[kcaldw]

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he ain't working on shit and that we won't see anything until after the new year most likely after the Super Bowl.

 

[DevilGaming]

This story is so all over the place from the original game, i feel like its 4 updates away from magic and dragons and him being some long lost royalty from another world.

 

[Shadow74]

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[MarkChadWinters]

I was bored and it seems I keep coming back to check on the train wreck that is WVM.

I have no idea about the quality of the last update or since I deleted the game. However, the subject of addiction being brought up is a serious one. It can take many forms, such as drug, alcohol or gambling.

From my basic knowledge of how addictions work is that until they admit there is a problem, nothing will change. Regardless of what the addiction is, or what lead to the addiction.

They might lie, cheat and steal to keep up thier addiction. It's easy to lie to people you don't have to deal with face to face. Especially when people keep trusting you to do better, and you keep failing each and every single time.

You don't have to steal so much when people just throw money at you. But your still being dishonest about how you actually earn that money.

And for cheating, you cheat people out of what you keep promising them, by over promising and under preforming time after time . He might have people willing to pay, but that don't mean he ain't cheating them.

I wish addiction on no one and not even saying BrainDrop is addicted to anything. At this point, I think If he said he had a problem , I would think he was lying about that and trying to use it as a crutch. It's not a thought I'm proud of, but the man has made me a beliver that I can't believe a word he writes.

 

[karumi56]

I was bored and it seems I keep coming back to check on the train wreck that is WVM.

I have no idea about the quality of the last update or since I deleted the game. However, the subject of addiction being brought up is a serious one. It can take many forms, such as drug, alcohol or gambling.

From my basic knowledge of how addictions work is that until they admit there is a problem, nothing will change. Regardless of what the addiction is, or what lead to the addiction.

They might lie, cheat and steal to keep up thier addiction. It's easy to lie to people you don't have to deal with face to face. Especially when people keep trusting you to do better, and you keep failing each and every single time.

You don't have to steal so much when people just throw money at you. But your still being dishonest about how you actually earn that money.

And for cheating, you cheat people out of what you keep promising them, by over promising and under preforming time after time . He might have people willing to pay, but that don't mean he ain't cheating them.

I wish addiction on no one and not even saying BrainDrop is addicted to anything. At this point, I think If he said he had a problem , I would think he was lying about that and trying to use it as a crutch. It's not a thought I'm proud of, but the man has made me a beliver that I can't believe a word he writes.

Over the years of this game's development I've also thought that either BD has an addiction issue or after the dramatic change in game quality/design/style after the first year, that someone else was now developing it.

There's also a third possibility that ties in with the addiction. BD is a massive procrastinator who at this point is "addicted" to failing to deliver. Similar to how gambling addicts crave the massive "rush" from losing, not winning like you'd rationally expect. His behavior at this point follows a regular pattern which plenty have noted here.

Promises release date --> lists work being done --> has "event" that delays delivery --> new release date --> more delays
--> 1000/2000/3000 render update split up into smaller "parts" --> more delays --> small release --> rinse/repeat
Add in radio silence intermittently to the above.

 

[Akabakka]

I dunno .... i get that it comes from a nice place from likely nicer people than me , but all of this , the addiction , mental issues theories etc , feel like a huge stretch , and people trying to come up with reasons or rather mitigating circumstances , for a thieving scum, to not just be that . Till something genuine actually pops up , I don't believe he's some traumatized bean turned "villain".

I just see someone that probably already had a lying streak in him , that worked well and hard for something (my opinion on the game non-withstanding) , met some instant success , became complacent , took things for granted , started lying to cover up bouts and lapse in laziness , and then kept lying more and more , at a bigger scope , when it started unraveling and snowballing .

Now he's just caught in his own web of BS , but won't let go of that money and fame .

 

[Farspire]

I dunno .... i get that it comes from a nice place from likely nicer people than me , but all of this , the addiction , mental issues theories etc , feel like a huge stretch , and people trying to come up with reasons or rather mitigating circumstances , for a thieving scum, to not just be that . Till something genuine actually pops up , I don't believe he's some traumatized bean turned "villain".

I just see someone that probably already had a lying streak in him , that worked well and hard for something (my opinion on the game non-withstanding) , met some instant success , became complacent , took things for granted , started lying to cover up bouts and lapse in laziness , and then kept lying more and more , at a bigger scope , when it started unraveling and snowballing .

Now he's just caught in his own web of BS , but won't let go of that money and fame .

Yup 100% agree

 

[MarkChadWinters]

Over the years of this game's development I've also thought that either BD has an addiction issue or after the dramatic change in game quality/design/style after the first year, that someone else was now developing it.

There's also a third possibility that ties in with the addiction. BD is a massive procrastinator who at this point is "addicted" to failing to deliver. Similar to how gambling addicts crave the massive "rush" from losing, not winning like you'd rationally expect. His behavior at this point follows a regular pattern which plenty have noted here.

Promises release date --> lists work being done --> has "event" that delays delivery --> new release date --> more delays
--> 1000/2000/3000 render update split up into smaller "parts" --> more delays --> small release --> rinse/repeat
Add in radio silence intermittently to the above.

What you said could be the truth. I don't know the man either way. It's just wild that people still support him. My only guess is that people forgot they donate 2 bucks a month via PayPal and just don't remember to cancel. But have enough people to do that and your set.

I just hope Makenzie and Dynox are able to help him meet his deadlines and put out more full updates......wait a minute....

 

[x21]

Now he's just caught in his own web of BS , but won't let go of that money and fame .

My money's on sociopath.

 

[Dil raju 1996]

Is there going to be any update of Azell or not?

 

[karumi56]

I dunno .... i get that it comes from a nice place from likely nicer people than me, but all of this, the addiction, mental issues theories etc, feel like a huge stretch, and people trying to come up with reasons or rather mitigating circumstances, for a thieving scum, to not just be that. Till something genuine actually pops up, I don't believe he's some traumatized bean turned "villain".

I just see someone that probably already had a lying streak in him, that worked well and hard for something (my opinion on the game non-withstanding), met some instant success, became complacent, took things for granted, started lying to cover up bouts and lapse in laziness, and then kept lying more and more, at a bigger scope, when it started unraveling and snowballing.

Now he's just caught in his own web of BS, but won't let go of that money and fame. [Edited to remove the spaces you put in front of punctuation that drive me a bit bonkers]

I think this is most likely the reality, it fits Occam's razor. Surprise success resulted in more money than a young guy could imagine, now doesn't want it to end and does the minimal effort for it to continue. For the first 6-9 months BD had a great work ethic.