Lady Lydia

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normally every dev has the story written to the very end at least in a raw form,but i remember him telling once at the very beginning that he was overhelmed from the success in the first place and i think he never had a written storyline for WVM in the first place.
now it is simple impossible to write a storyline in advance for every character he had thrown in the game.
i think he thinks up the story with every update that is coming,and that is probably why he has now problems finishing the end of episode 13.
the guy is just to blinded to see it himself.
That is what Devs should do, the reality is I doubt most Devs actually have a storyline from start to end already pre-written. I mean you can see clearly all over this site games that are started and seem to go nowhere for years, just keeping their games alive unfinished to milk them infinitely, until they finally decide to move on and typically abandon them.

Even those not outright trying to make games to milk money, so many of them seem to just all but death spiral until abandoned or completed, it has been personally my peeve for ages with the games here, likely why even the decent Devs ends up so often abandoning their games, because they couldn't be assed to create a clear storyline from start to finish and they just end up losing track, followed by losing interest in it, and finally just abandonment.

Also many that do finish their stories just basically reach the point of losing interest and just shit out an ending for completion sake, no matter how much it doesn't really work out because they leave story threads unfinished, giving a feeling of unsatisfaction due to those endings lacking closure for many elements of the story.
 

Steinchen

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That is what Devs should do, the reality is I doubt most Devs actually have a storyline from start to end already pre-written. I mean you can see clearly all over this site games that are started and seem to go nowhere for years, just keeping their games alive unfinished to milk them infinitely, until they finally decide to move on and typically abandon them.

Even those not outright trying to make games to milk money, so many of them seem to just all but death spiral until abandoned or completed, it has been personally my peeve for ages with the games here, likely why even the decent Devs ends up so often abandoning their games, because they couldn't be assed to create a clear storyline from start to finish and they just end up losing track, followed by losing interest in it, and finally just abandonment.

Also many that do finish their stories just basically reach the point of losing interest and just shit out an ending for completion sake, no matter how much it doesn't really work out because they leave story threads unfinished, giving a feeling of unsatisfaction due to those endings lacking closure for many elements of the story.
there are enough devs that have the story ready in a raw form before beginning producing.
there are a few devs here with successful games and they have finished a few projects already.
i do not think that the really good ones have no storyline finished before starting their project.
at least they are ahead with making the story and not thinking of a storyline while making the renders for the next update.

brainshit simply did not excpected WVM to get so popular and that is the only reason he must think of everything in the same time while making the renders.
he had some hints how the "story" should go but thats it.
 

El Pene Del Diablo

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very few solo developers have more than a basic outline at any time.
that works for some VNs, not for others. It works for this one since the plot is so secondary.
 

Kakasan

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Did BD say he is done? why is everyone pissed off?
Sorry for the bad English, we are upset for the simple reason that the DEV put around 100 characters, they are increasingly adding more so the game will never be finished.

In my opinion, if there were more or less just the mother, adoptive mother, sister, Raquel, girlfriend, childhood friend, 4 Or 6 more characters, the game would already be in the final stretch.
 
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Homealone

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Sorry for the bad English, we are upset for the simple reason that the DEV put around 100 characters, they are increasingly adding more so the game will never be finished.

In my opinion, if there were more or less just the mother, adoptive mother, sister, Raquel, girlfriend, childhood friend, 4 Or 6 more characters, the game would already be in the final stretch.
I understand your frustration.
 

Grif1001

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very few solo developers have more than a basic outline at any time.
that works for some VNs, not for others. It works for this one since the plot is so secondary.
Even Dev's who have a script they work off of tend to add more stuff and flesh things out more as they go along. My game is based off of a screen play I wrote 25 years ago, just modified to an AVN. Sometimes as the characters develop their personalities, you realize that the person you planed to have do this thing, actually wouldn't, but this other character would be perfect to do said act. So things always change as you go. Not having a fully fleshed out story isn't the problem here. The problem is that the cast is way to big for one story and to compensate for not being able to handle such a large cast without massive delays, he over promises and then under delivers and/or makes up excuses and lies.
 

shamtiiomi

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I too was once a BD supporter. I think maybe we need to create a support group, lol
from now i only seeing the good on the bad so....this vn is actually the best example to any dev outhere and in here what to do and what not to do when it comes to a point of no return....i dont say this to you bcs you clearly are adiferent one but to some extent i really think if this crash soon or later will be remembered in some psychology 101 book ...how is possible to destroy a sucesful thing with only one neuron.......
 

Kakasan

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A good script for this game is this:
All the secondary characters were on a plane on their way to meet the MC, but unfortunately the plane ends Landing on an island, where only a few managed to resist the impact of the aircraft,In this the MC is only focused on the main ones and after a long time the few characters that survived are rescued by an unknown group who end up selling some of them, some of them They manage to escape and return to the MC's house
 

SerHawkes

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Nah... A good script for this would be to have a yandere kill 95% of the side girls before offing themselves, mainly all the duck face girls, and have our MC overcome the struggles of depression and shit and become the number one NBA draft pick in four years instead of being a shitty overhyped one and done.
 
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