KiryuKazuma095

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And? Your point is?

Please read the last line of my post.

Peace :D
My point is obvious....WVM has no story anymore it's just a metiore game that has lots of sex and that is it... I like it for that but that is all it is the story at some point flew out of the window , no offense so are most of the character development on the whole project...
 

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My point is obvious....WVM has no story anymore it's just a metiore game that has lots of sex and that is it... I like it for that but that is all it is the story at some point flew out of the window , no offense so are most of the character development on the whole project...
And you clearly don't see my point...

I couldn't care less.

I still love it. I still play it. I still enjoy it.

You? Well you do whatever the fuck you want to do. Think whatever the fuck you want to think. Write it in capital letters on a highway for all I care.

I will still say the same. I love this game.

If you don't? Well, it's YOUR loss, not mine. :)

Peace :D
 

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And? Your point is?

Please read the last line of my post.

Peace :D
My point is obvious....WVM has no story anymore it's just a metiore game that has lots of sex and that is it... I like it for that but that is all it is the story at some point flew out of the window , no offense so are most of the character development on the whole project...

Hey guys, come on. Both of you have some valid points, and each is free to have their own opinions. KK, I enjoy reading most of your posts. You have a good view point on many things. FG I admire your convictions and enjoy your posts as well. We all have something we like about WVM even if it's getting difficult for some of us to see those things or remember them but if we didn't we wouldn't still come to this thread hoping for an update.

FG isn't just some BD fanboi who's gushing over his hero. He admits that BD has messed some stuff up and made mistakes. He's also brave enough to post in a semi-toxic thread that he still loves the game and I believe he has a right to do that. So good on you.

KK is right, when taking the game as a whole. It is mediocre. It didn't start out that way and those of us who have been watching and playing it from the beginning still remember the hope we had for it initially. Hope that was crushed, and the story we loved at the beginning now has so many convoluted twists and turns that lead us down blind alleys to leave us face to face with duck faced girls, that many of us do feel betrayed and are left wishing for a better story with actual character growth and development.

Both of you have good points and there is plenty of room for both of your views, because at the heart of them, you both agree that BD has made some mistakes with WVM. I think we can all agree on this without fighting over weather we are feel optimistic that BD can still put out a good VN despite those mistakes or let down and betrayed by BD's continual repetition of promise big deliver small.

So, I want you guys to stop the bickering and kiss and make up, :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:;)


*edit* All joking aside, it isn't really worth fighting about.
 
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And you clearly don't see my point...

I couldn't care less.

I still love it. I still play it. I still enjoy it.

You? Well you do whatever the fuck you want to do. Think whatever the fuck you want to think. Write it in capital letters on a highway for all I care.

I will still say the same. I love this game.

If you don't? Well, it's YOUR loss, not mine. :)

Peace :D
I find the game to be crap story wise , from the beginning , but I'm with him on this one . He just respectfully layed out his feelings on the game , without trying to force it . It's fine if he enjoyed it , and to just disagree . We know what toxic idiots look like from past convos , it's not that
 
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Last year I made a decision about this thread. Where WVM is concerned, I no longer seek, or believe, any deadlines. When it's here, I play it, I enjoy it, I spend a couple days rolling myself over it. Then I put it in storage and go about my life again.

I don't participate in the endless toxicity of this thread, on the hate for BD, on the criticism of this of that and that also... I don't care. There are people here that haven't played WVM in quite a while, but still come here to beat the dead horse of BD unreliability. The way they behave is like they learned that behavior from someone, and don't even consider any other way to express themselves. I don't even read them anymore.

What do I do? Why am I here? Well, I will NEVER claim to be a voice of reason, lol, but I do have a voice. A voice that says that whatever BD makes to WVM, is unable to stop me from loving it. Him? Couldn't care less. I have zero sympathy for him, except for creating WVM and being the sole producer of it, he has no other place in my life, unlike all this people here that seem to have an extremely morbid fixation with him. They dissect his words. They hung on each and every one of his doings. He transcended from person to pet hate.

I find all that so absolutely unnecessary, that it borders on stupidity. I don't read a word he says, I don't care for any date he promises, I don't believe in any excuse he gives, I simply don't want anything from that person, except updates to WVM, when and if he makes them.

I am only here for the game, when there is a game to play. Period.

Peace :(
 

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Last year I made a decision about this thread. Where WVM is concerned, I no longer seek, or believe, any deadlines. When it's here, I play it, I enjoy it, I spend a couple days rolling myself over it. Then I put it in storage and go about my life again.

I don't participate in the endless toxicity of this thread, on the hate for BD, on the criticism of this of that and that also... I don't care. There are people here that haven't played WVM in quite a while, but still come here to beat the dead horse of BD unreliability. The way they behave is like they learned that behavior from someone, and don't even consider any other way to express themselves. I don't even read them anymore.

What do I do? Why am I here? Well, I will NEVER claim to be a voice of reason, lol, but I do have a voice. A voice that says that whatever BD makes to WVM, is unable to stop me from loving it. Him? Couldn't care less. I have zero sympathy for him, except for creating WVM and being the sole producer of it, he has no other place in my life, unlike all this people here that seem to have an extremely morbid fixation with him. They dissect his words. They hung on each and every one of his doings. He transcended from person to pet hate.

I find all that so absolutely unnecessary, that it borders on stupidity. I don't read a word he says, I don't care for any date he promises, I don't believe in any excuse he gives, I simply don't want anything from that person, except updates to WVM, when and if he makes them.

I am only here for the game, when there is a game to play. Period.

Peace :(
That sure is a lot of words for stating you don't care. Also this isn't an Airport, no need to announce your Departure.
 

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The game to a certain extent had a story, then the DEV decided to cut part of the story out of fear of Patreon,After a long time, the money got to his head and he started to delay the updates.
 
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Last year I made a decision about this thread. Where WVM is concerned, I no longer seek, or believe, any deadlines. When it's here, I play it, I enjoy it, I spend a couple days rolling myself over it. Then I put it in storage and go about my life again.

I don't participate in the endless toxicity of this thread, on the hate for BD, on the criticism of this of that and that also... I don't care. There are people here that haven't played WVM in quite a while, but still come here to beat the dead horse of BD unreliability. The way they behave is like they learned that behavior from someone, and don't even consider any other way to express themselves. I don't even read them anymore.

What do I do? Why am I here? Well, I will NEVER claim to be a voice of reason, lol, but I do have a voice. A voice that says that whatever BD makes to WVM, is unable to stop me from loving it. Him? Couldn't care less. I have zero sympathy for him, except for creating WVM and being the sole producer of it, he has no other place in my life, unlike all this people here that seem to have an extremely morbid fixation with him. They dissect his words. They hung on each and every one of his doings. He transcended from person to pet hate.

I find all that so absolutely unnecessary, that it borders on stupidity. I don't read a word he says, I don't care for any date he promises, I don't believe in any excuse he gives, I simply don't want anything from that person, except updates to WVM, when and if he makes them.

I am only here for the game, when there is a game to play. Period.

Peace :(
Your input is very welcome, it's the fuel this thread needs to keep it fresh when BD goes silent, much better than the incest question and birthday renders! (y) (for my own selfish amusement, I admit).

And to keep things going, let me point out that the "toxicity" of posters here prevent clueless new players to spend their hard earned money on this shitshow and hopefully push them to support a much more deserving Dev, have you ever though about that?
 

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Your input is very welcome, it's the fuel this thread needs to keep it fresh when BD goes silent, much better than the incest question and birthday renders! (y) (for my own selfish amusement, I admit).

And to keep things going, let me point out that the "toxicity" of posters here prevent clueless new players to spend their hard earned money on this shitshow and hopefully push them to support a much more deserving Dev, have you ever though about that?
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KiryuKazuma095

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Just noticed this on his SubscribeStar:

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Is this guy for real??
After saying that the update was almost done (always is), he goes on vacation a full month, a full month????
I hope that when he comes back from vacation he finds that all of his patrons canceled their subscriptions!
Seriously now???of course he would go for vacation...He works so hard, things like this will ruin him financially when people stop giving support
 

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Seriously now???of course he would go for vacation... He works so hard, things like this will ruin him financially when people stop giving support
So you're saying that If people stop supporting him, he will be ruined. If he is relying on supporters to survive, who is paying for the vacation ?? The only reason I started playing the game was because it had an interesting story to go with it. Now it's turned into another one of the hundreds of fap downloads out there. From reading above there are two factions, Some don't care about the game except to wank themselves silly over it and others who wanked themselves silly but enjoyed the storyline.
I give up on it because to many excuses for updates which never seem to appear.
 
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I'm not too invested in the game, other than a handful of characters. Everything that can be said about the game and BD, has been said ad nauseam for years now. But I just want to chime in on one thing I keep seeing lately: calling the story good or interesting.

I'm no expert when it comes to AVNs, I'm sure many people have played way more than I have. The ones I have played, I'd say less than half had a good story, or even a real premise beyond just "fuck everything in sight." I would say WVM has a pretty solid premise, a nice setup. You're a basketball star being courted by a shitty college, where they will satisfy your every whim because you're just that goddamn good. You will navigate your rising fame, leading your team to victory, and having two girlfriends.

Good start. It's just that from there, things start getting out of hand pretty fast.
  • You get a house to yourself, with a fake house just for appearances.
  • The cheerleaders want you to fuck the newest one as part of her initiation, who just happens to be your girlfriend's sister, and she has been in love with you for years.
  • You sleepwalk, get kidnapped, and rescued by a passerby on what, your first day at the school? The kidnapper is a teammate you hadn't even met yet, and he has another teammate spy on you.
  • You were adopted by this sexy woman you can't fuck despite all the intentional teasing and flirting.
  • You stumble into a job as a high-end stud for wealthy and influential women.
  • You have recovered memories from your childhood, leading you to reconnect with your long lost sister (who was on the verge of fucking you) and your childhood best friend (the random passerby who saved you), good thing they both conveniently go to the same school as you.
  • I can't really remember what else happens before the introduction of Willabelle—the powerful financial backer of WVM who invalidates the entire point of the college being shit—as well as some shadowy nemesis Delilah, the entire bowling alley incident, getting yet another house with a princess hidden in the basement... this general chunk of the game is the major turning point for most players.
I could go on but I'd be here all day. It doesn't even really matter, since the rework of Season 1 will change what we've already seen, which includes adding new characters, taking story elements like the incest teases out, rearranging when things happen, and so on. The story has gone far beyond the simple premise, and is pretty irrelevant since all that really matters now is building your cult of sex-crazed sluts to be as large as possible.

The story mutated pretty early on, but as far as its quality, I would compare it to a trashy daytime soap opera. Things just happen now to keep you hooked, because you want to see what crazy thing happens next. If you think the story is good, that's fine. At this point BD could reveal that your father is God and you're Jesus Christ reborn, and I'll just roll with it.
 

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I would say WVM has a pretty solid premise, a nice setup. You're a basketball star being courted by a shitty college, where they will satisfy your every whim because you're just that goddamn good. You will navigate your rising fame, leading your team to victory, and having two girlfriends.
Good start. It's just that from there, things start getting out of hand pretty fast.
... all that really matters now is building your cult of sex-crazed sluts to be as large as possible.
At this point BD could reveal that your father is God and you're Jesus Christ reborn, and I'll just roll with it.
Not arguing here, just pointing out... you are right about the ORIGINAL game had a good start... But considering that entire portion is being rewritten, Chapter 1 is now like schrodinger's cat, both good and ruined at the same time.

Secondly, the whole BD might reveal that your father is God thing... I thought that's what the whole weird rich girl boat scene and the tattoos were about. they were pretty much worshiping the MC...
 
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