VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[EEMNHMQI]

I'm willing to bet incest was a part of the plan but patreon killed it.

Agreed. Like, Ethan and Azel kisses got more and more passionate and he's also kissing Wendy so IMHO it's safe to assume he did plan to add it eventually

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Didn't BD mention close to the beginning of development that he isn't interested in any kind of incest, including not even blood related? I've read that's one of the main reasons for why we won't get intimate with Willow and Azel (although he of course also doesn't want to be banned from Patreon because of that kind of content).

Well he did said that but inside the game, for the most part MC kiss Azel on the lips without any sort of choice to avoid it, thenhe add a new choice to giver a hug instead

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

I'm fully convinced that his original plan was for a lot of the love interest to be half-sisters. We have yet to see or even hear about a dad.

MC's father died in the accident that Ryker's mom died

 

[Nubisonus]

Just go into the preferences, select skip for unseen. Right click on "Skip" in the game, and you fast forward to the next choice. You should get auto saves for each choice, so if you blast by and end up at the end of the game, just load, go to A tab, and load the newest one, then work toward the end of current content again. That way you get the girls you want.

I never thought of that. You're a savior.

 

[Chillout1984]

MC's father died in the accident that Ryker's mom died

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken Daliah tells us that story in one of the more "recent" updates.

 

[EEMNHMQI]

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken Daliah tells us that story in one of the more "recent" updates.

I was just about to say "It was indeed Daliah" but now I'm not too sure she says a lot of stuff but I bet it was her

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken Daliah tells us that story in one of the more "recent" updates.

She told us in details what many important people in MC's life knew and did not say a word... Azel knew, Rachel knew, Willabelle knew, Wendy knew, Charles knew, Katie Knew , Ryker knew ..(and blames MC for his mom death )

 

[Chillout1984]

She told us in details what many important people in MC's life knew and did not say a word... Azel knew, Rachel knew, Willabelle knew, Wendy knew, Charles knew, Katie Knew , Ryker knew ..(and blames MC for his mom death )

Yeah true. I understand those afraid of Daliah wouldn't tell anything, but Rachel and Willabelle seem to have more than enough power and influence to overall protect themselves, MC and his friends and family against her if Daliah would want to harm them (except maybe against "ninja", forgot if we find out her name).

I really hope Daliah is going to play a bigger role in the future. I find her much more likable as a motherfigure than either Wendy or Azel, but I might be one of the few with that.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Yeah true. I understand those afraid of Daliah wouldn't tell anything, but Rachel and Willabelle seem to have more than enough power and influence to overall protect themselves, MC and his friends and family against her if Daliah would want to harm them (except maybe against "ninja", forgot if we find out her name).

I really hope Daliah is going to play a bigger role in the future. I find her much more likable as a motherfigure than either Wendy or Azel, but I might be one of the few with that.

Azel adopted MC , she is the one MC called mom for the most of the game...And she kept something this serious a secret from Him,as for Rachel she could have arrange Daliah and MC meeting to let him know...She is supposed to be some secret agent or some shit like that (It's implied because she took Talismah away from a country in the brink of civil war/ revolution...Ryker was not afraid of Daliah, he simply was waiting for the right moment and the right opportunity to take his revenge..If he wanted MC would be dead in a ditch on day 1 ...Willabelle has no power...She has connections sure.. but power nah...At least so far we did not see any power pulling moves from her part...Rachel said was a fixer back in the day which means that she has connections not necessary power herself but she knows someone that can do things... )

 

[Chillout1984]

Azel adopted MC , she is the one MC called mom for the most of the game...And she kept something this serious a secret from Him,as for Rachel she could have arrange Daliah and MC meeting to let him know...She is supposed to be some secret agent or some shit like that (It's implied because she took Talismah away from a country in the brink of civil war/ revolution...Ryker was not afraid of Daliah, he simply was waiting for the right moment and the right opportunity to take his revenge..If he wanted MC would be dead in a ditch on day 1 ...Willabelle has no power...She has connections sure.. but power nah...At least so far we did not see any power pulling moves from her part...Rachel said was a fixer back in the day which means that she has connections not necessary power herself but she knows someone that can do things... )

Imo connections = power, especially if those connections are from important people (and we've already seen Willa has enough of those). I believe that was also how she became the new "leader" of WVM.
It's same with Rachel, she already has used her fixer-connections a couple of times to help us out, plus I've got a feeling she's using the "pimp" sidejob to also build/keep up connections with powerful people.

And I know that MC calls Azel Mom for most of the game and she adopted us, but for me Daliah still gave much of a motherly vibe to me than her, despite the short time we were with her.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Imo connections = power, especially if those connections are from important people (and we've already seen Willa has enough of those). I believe that was also how she became the new "leader" of WVM.
It's same with Rachel, she already has used her fixer-connections a couple of times to help us out, plus I've got a feeling she's using the "pimp" sidejob to also build/keep up connections with powerful people.

And I know that MC calls Azel Mom for most of the game and she adopted us, but for me Daliah still gave much of a motherly vibe to me than her, despite the short time we were with her.

My point is that MC should be pissed to all Hells with Both Azel, Wendy and Rachel for keeping something like that a secret ..As for the connections Rachel had... They are not that good or the writing is not that good in that specific part because Wendy track down MC's location to that office building and reach the window and Rachel took 72 hours to find out that the woman that visit them was Wendy...as for Willabelle she organized that charity event and did not even hired her own security by her own contacts... she used security that Charles had ....And we saw how that ended...as i said if Ryker wanted to kill MC he would be dead and neither of them could do a damn thing...Connections are all good and well when you know how to use them ...Daliah seem to truly care for MC now if that is motherly/sisterly love or romantic love ...Well that is something only BD can answer

 

[Chillout1984]

My point is that MC should be pissed to all Hells with Both Azel, Wendy and Rachel for keeping something like that a secret ..As for the connections Rachel had... They are not that good or the writing is not that good in that specific part because Wendy track down MC's location to that office building and reach the window and Rachel took 72 hours to find out that the woman that visit them was Wendy...as for Willabelle she organized that charity event and did not even hired her own security by her own contacts... she used security that Charles had ....And we saw how that ended...as i said if Ryker wanted to kill MC he would be dead and neither of them could do a damn thing...Connections are all good and well when you know how to use them ...Daliah seem to truly care for MC now if that is motherly/sisterly love or romantic love ...Well that is something only BD can answer

Well... I totally agree that MC would be pissed as hell as well and I got a feeling they only currently get away with it because he considers Azel and Wendy as his mothers and Rachel as the mother of his kid. And I also agree that although Willa is well connected, in general she isn't written as the smartest when it comes to short term decisionmaking.

When it comes to Daliah, I'm afraid that she won't be a romantic interest but more of a motherly/sisterly figure. I think that, because of the kind of history she already has with MC. I would love for her to be a LI, but I just don't see it happening.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Well... I totally agree that MC would be pissed as hell as well and I got a feeling they only currently get away with it because he considers Azel and Wendy as his mothers and Rachel as the mother of his kid. And I also agree that although Willa is well connected, in general she isn't written as the smartest when it comes to short term decisionmaking.

When it comes to Daliah, I'm afraid that she won't be a romantic interest but more of a motherly/sisterly figure. I think that, because of the kind of history she already has with MC. I would love for her to be a LI, but I just don't see it happening.

Well they did share a traumatic experience with each other , sure and she cared for him deeply,Problem is that since she knew the reason why Ryker Hated MC so much and even through oil in that fire , she should have contact Racher and tell her
:"Rachel , Ethan (MC's given name ) is in danger, tell Wilabelle to hire extra security" or something like that yet she did none of those things...as for Wendy and Azel geting away with it , I doubt MC gives them pass because he sees them as his moms... He is acting like a coward in general so far...He should be focused on laying the foundations for his future , instead of doing that he is being hunted by every girl in that college and has to deal with all the nonsense...

 

[Chillout1984]

Well they did share a traumatic experience with each other , sure and she cared for him deeply,Problem is that since she knew the reason why Ryker Hated MC so much and even through oil in that fire , she should have contact Racher and tell her
:"Rachel , Ethan (MC's given name ) is in danger, tell Wilabelle to hire extra security" or something like that yet she did none of those things...as for Wendy and Azel geting away with it , I doubt MC gives them pass because he sees them as his moms... He is acting like a coward in general so far...He should be focused on laying the foundations for his future , instead of doing that he is being hunted by every girl in that college and has to deal with all the nonsense...

I really don't get the feeling that he's acting as a coward, at least when he's using his words. Then again, that could also only be the case when he's talking about "his" girls, he threatens and warns everyone not to harm them. Then again, I don't recall how he reacts when it's about himself but you I believe you he's a coward on that subject.

We will see what BD has in store for us. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see Daliah again except maybe in a phone call (even though I really hope he will become his third "mom" even if it means we won't get to have sex with her).

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

I really don't get the feeling that he's acting as a coward, at least when he's using his words. Then again, that could also only be the case when he's talking about "his" girls, he threatens and warns everyone not to harm them. Then again, I don't recall how he reacts when it's about himself but you I believe you he's a coward on that subject.

We will see what BD has in store for us. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see Daliah again except maybe in a phone call (even though I really hope he will become his third "mom" even if it means we won't get to have sex with her).

Well if you remember Daliah said that she has some plans for MC so , If the game does not abandoned and continue with "plot story" we may see her again but if we do see her she could be a LI i mean MC kisses his adoptive mom on the lips again and again for the biggest part of the game... Rachel even encourage MC to fantasize Azel with sexy Lingerie in the beginning of the game...Also I would not like Daliah to become a 3rd mom for MC , she can be a big sister sure, his guardian angel too , even a LI but that is up to what BD wants to do with the "plot" for his game

 

[Chillout1984]

Well if you remember Daliah said that she has some plans for MC so , If the game does not abandoned and continue with "plot story" we may see her again but if we do see her she could be a LI i mean MC kisses his adoptive mom on the lips again and again for the biggest part of the game... Rachel even encourage MC to fantasize Azel with sexy Lingerie in the beginning of the game...Also I would not like Daliah to become a 3rd mom for MC , she can be a big sister sure, his guardian angel too , even a LI but that is up to what BD wants to do with the "plot" for his game

True, but even if she has plans she could just use a hands-off approach and delegate the "field operations" to someone like Ninja or Willa. She doesn't need to be close to MC to execute her plans.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

True, but even if she has plans she could just use a hands-off approach and delegate the "field operations" to someone like Ninja. She doesn't need to be close to MC to execute her plans.

Well first we have to find out what is it exactly that Daliah is... Because BD presented her as the "Big bad elephant " in the room the Drug dealer yet so far we saw nothing similar to that , When MC visited Daliah there were a few girls wearing identical uniforms and that seems more like some kind of Cult than Drug dealing operation....Also that is my own guess and I may be wrong but the whole plans Daliah may have for mc would be that he takes over her club or something like that so Ninja seems scary but ...Daliah want MC to be the new boss...
Again that is my own guess and i may be wrong...I just hope that I will be still alive until the games end to see

 

[Chillout1984]

Again that is my own guess and i may be wrong...I just hope that I will be still alive until the games end to see

I hope the same with more games, not just this one

 

[uamkt]

Woah Woah Woh...what is this....actual game talk and not hating on BD....Am I in the twilight zone????

 

[jhb360]

Woah Woah Woh...what is this....actual game talk and not hating on BD....Am I in the twilight zone????

We digressed (well, they did, I'm still formulating my two cents of worthless feedback lol)