VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

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How many more updates are we expecting till day 9 is complete? Ill likely blitz through the updates ive missed but it will be nice to where the story has gone during them.
 
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I'm all for polls but there's been a lot of changes and different versions made from the initial showing, mainly from feedback on discord. There's even a first look at a potential Moon change. :)
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If you could do to ruby how you changed moon (keeping face shape and hair more or less the same ect.) then that's what think would work best coz they don't really look like sisters in the new models. So really in my opinion ruby only needs a re-texture with a lighter skin (kind of like an old car but a fresh coat of paint if you get my meaning)
 
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LocoGringo78 said:
Ok I was trying to stay out of this one since last time I got shot down pretty hard by the community with my opinion on Damien. Oh well here goes nothing again.

Let's look at things from Damien's side rather than the MC side for a change. Sorry this is a mix of facts and opinions.

  • He needed money to support his mothers health (I know it might do some questionable things to keep my family safe).
  • He got hired to do odds and ends jobs for Ryker in the beginning nothing major.
  • Before he knew it he was in deep and didn't have a way out without losing the help he needed for his mother.
  • He decided the value of his mothers life was more important than a random stranger (aka the MC)
  • He spied on him and relayed some information to Ryker, mostly where he was and who he was with. (no big deal to me sure it takes away some privacy but we get tracked all the time by our phones and computers so no big deal)
  • Ok so he used Jasmine I get this one (he seems really confused with his sexuality and we know people in sports are judged by who they are with).
  • Now the locker room stuff with Lee seemed like flirting at best, nothing to indicate he was cheating on Jasmine (well there is not solid evidence at least, and don't get all high and mighty with me the MC has multiple girlfriends and depending on your path he may have cheated on Jamie so the MC is no better than him on that mark except he got the ok to do so after a few days)
  • As for him asking the MC to take care of Jasmine I think he was trying to figure a way out and wanted her safe because deep down even if he did not want her in a sexual way he does care about her and wants her safe, so I get that.
  • We know Ryker made him do things like skip out the pool date to spy on the MC, and I think he did not like seeing Jasmine so upset and wanted to try to turn the corner but was too deep so he needed the MC help but didn't know how to ask for it.
  • The meeting with Ryker was a wake up call for Damien he got caught and now the MC knew he was working for Ryker. Damien went and explained some of what he was doing. It was like he was trying to come clean and make the MC understand why he was doing things. (look we all make mistakes it is admitting them is the hard part but the hardest is asking for forgiveness).
  • Damien did indicate Ryker was moving on to other things now, but he did not know what that was.
  • Ok flashforward a few days to the big event the bowling alley brawl. Now at this event we do not see Damien take an physical actions of violence towards the MC unlike Ryker, Gorg, Kenji and the unnamed bouncer. The later 4 beat up the MC and Ayden not Damien.
  • Now he tried to convince the MC to just run away since he had no control over Ryker in his drugged state. After that he just walked away with the other security guard over his shoulder. (Now before you get all high and mighty saying he should have done more how can you say that Damien's mother life is worth more than the MC to Damien. IF Damien tried to help the MC he risks the medical care needed for his mother, so I agree with his choice he made at that point).
  • Now there is the inside the bowling ally part while the fight was going on outside. Damien and several security guards tried to prevent people from going outside. Now did he do this to try to protect others from getting hurt or protect Ryker? I think he was trying to do both, since he knew if Ryker found out he did not try to stop people his mother would get cut off, but I also think he did it to try to prevent others from getting hurt by Ryker.
So with all this said I feel Damien got mixed up with the wrong people for the right reasons. He truly wanted to take care of his family, and I feel he loves Jasmine, but just not the same way she loved him. Do I think he can get another chance yes, but do I think it will happen absolutely not. The only reason I want to give him another chance is for the basketball team they took a big hit losing 3 players for the season and another one for a few games.
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Uhm in a way MC did give him another chance if his story panned out, both for him and especially his Mom through Rachel and Belle. Just not close to MC or at WVM and even if you would be right on all your points, that still does not mean that MC has to be so inhuman a paragon of goodness and forgive what happened to him and his family (Even if Ryker was one that hit Wendy, Damien made that scene help become possible), without consequences or let Damien be a part of his life after all that happened.
 
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DA22 said:
Uhm in a way MC did give him another chance if his story panned out, both for him and especially his Mom through Rachel and Belle. Just not close to MC or at WVM and even if you would be right on all your points, that still does not mean that MC has to be so inhuman a paragon of goodness and forgive what happened to him and his family (Even if Ryker was one that hit Wendy, Damien made that scene help become possible), without consequences ir let Damien be a part of his life after all that happened.
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very good point.
 
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DA22 said:
Uhm in a way MC did give him another chance if his story panned out, both for him and especially his Mom through Rachel and Belle. Just not close to MC or at WVM and even if you would be right on all your points, that still does not mean that MC has to be so inhuman a paragon of goodness and forgive what happened to him and his family (Even if Ryker was one that hit Wendy, Damien made that scene help become possible), without consequences or let Damien be a part of his life after all that happened.
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First off before I continue let me just say I am not on Damien's side I just wish we didn't lose him as a team mate that is all.

Ok well if you want to say that Damien was partially to blame for the incident at the bowling alley then we can say the same for the MC. If he didn't provoke Ryker there then he wouldn't have gotten in the fight and Wendy would not have got hit. It would have been just as easy for him to not go outside or go back inside and call the police. I get we all want Damien to be the bad guy (so you could have Jasmine and not feel as guilty), and point out how he fucked up. The problem is a lot of people are looking at everything towards the MC like he could do no wrong at all. Well guess what the MC is not perfect either he has lied, cheated, injured several people, went to jail as well. Hmmm wait that sounds just like someone else but who, oh yeah Damien did the same thing.

I don't agree with Damien's methods but I have come to terms to accept why he did what he did. I wish we didn't lose him as a team mate that is my main concern we barely have a team. I feel the team is going to struggle without someone with his skills is all. I am sure the MC will be superman and win all or most of the games himself but it would have been nice to have someone like Damien there as well. You know a Scotty Pippen to Michael Jordan, or a Kobe with Shaq kind of thing. Just my opinion
 
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LocoGringo78 said:
First off before I continue let me just say I am not on Damien's side I just wish we didn't lose him as a team mate that is all.

Ok well if you want to say that Damien was partially to blame for the incident at the bowling alley then we can say the same for the MC. If he didn't provoke Ryker there then he wouldn't have gotten in the fight and Wendy would not have got hit. It would have been just as easy for him to not go outside or go back inside and call the police. I get we all want Damien to be the bad guy (so you could have Jasmine and not feel as guilty), and point out how he fucked up. The problem is a lot of people are looking at everything towards the MC like he could do no wrong at all. Well guess what the MC is not perfect either he has lied, cheated, injured several people, went to jail as well. Hmmm wait that sounds just like someone else but who, oh yeah Damien did the same thing.

I don't agree with Damien's methods but I have come to terms to accept why he did what he did. I wish we didn't lose him as a team mate that is my main concern we barely have a team. I feel the team is going to struggle without someone with his skills is all. I am sure the MC will be superman and win all or most of the games himself but it would have been nice to have someone like Damien there as well. You know a Scotty Pippen to Michael Jordan, or a Kobe with Shaq kind of thing. Just my opinion
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Didn't Belle said she is bringing 3 more people in the team?to replace the ones we lost?
Maybe 1 or 2 of them maybe even all 3 will be just as good or even better?
All is not lost we can still find a Scotty Pippen to our MC or a Kobe to our MC :d
 
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LocoGringo78 said:
First off before I continue let me just say I am not on Damien's side I just wish we didn't lose him as a team mate that is all.

Ok well if you want to say that Damien was partially to blame for the incident at the bowling alley then we can say the same for the MC. If he didn't provoke Ryker there then he wouldn't have gotten in the fight and Wendy would not have got hit. It would have been just as easy for him to not go outside or go back inside and call the police. I get we all want Damien to be the bad guy (so you could have Jasmine and not feel as guilty), and point out how he fucked up. The problem is a lot of people are looking at everything towards the MC like he could do no wrong at all. Well guess what the MC is not perfect either he has lied, cheated, injured several people, went to jail as well. Hmmm wait that sounds just like someone else but who, oh yeah Damien did the same thing.

I don't agree with Damien's methods but I have come to terms to accept why he did what he did. I wish we didn't lose him as a team mate that is my main concern we barely have a team. I feel the team is going to struggle without someone with his skills is all. I am sure the MC will be superman and win all or most of the games himself but it would have been nice to have someone like Damien there as well. You know a Scotty Pippen to Michael Jordan, or a Kobe with Shaq kind of thing. Just my opinion
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Thing is you can look at the situation purely from Damiens view, try to be objectively neutral (Operative word is try) or from MC's point of view. Now whether MC could have been wiser and gone inside to call or not at certain moment it was too late for that and main fault MC made was he reacted to a situation that was created and set up for him against his will and Damien did help to create that situation freely and of his own will even if we can debate if Damien tried to do the good thing at end or not.

Remember also due to Damien's actions (yes he does bear some responsibility for that as a member of that posse if not the main since he did enable Rykers behavior and he could also have called police way earlier if had wanted to) before the alley was even reached by Ryker, if MC had not stopped Ryker Harper would have been hit full face by a baseball bat. Damien was a willing and participating member of that posse. Now that is unforgivable in the end and Damien did know of what Ryker was capable in his craziness.

Now with all the betrayals of Damien in the eyes of MC and also the betrayal of Jasmine (Yes he did betray Jasmine by not setting her free when he found out he was truly gay and telling her the truth about that), even if Damien would be a full saint in reality which he is not just as he may not be fully evil, you are asking of MC to be inhumanely forgiving of Damien to even ask him to allow Damien back on the team and school. Now to be honest I think MC showed both his inner kindness and all the forgiveness but unable to forget he could, when said that Rachel and Belle would help him to build his life anew somewhere else and his help his mother as well if Damien would help and had been honest.

What more can you even expect from MC? Even if he would have been so inhumanely kind and good or stupid to give Damien another chance, how could he ever trust him. In my eyes MC gave Damien as much of another chance he could and it is now up to Damien to grab that chance. Also Damien's actions have consequences in how he is seen by all in game not just MC, whether you want to see him as fully evil or a good person who did bad things. To me BD struck a good balance and for many he might have even been to lenient with Damien. :)
 
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Well there's a reason why mine is the only that ever seems to last... :devilish: ....kidding mostly

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Well, you know their mom is in my top 5....well actually top 4 since last time l uploaded my rankings, I won’t spoil further since I don’t know when the next tier-list call will be done. She has a special place for me...I admit I fall in love easily also :whistle:
 
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I wonder how MC is going to amend the situation with Millie tbh ...what kind of situation is it needed for Millie to be acceptant of MC and her daughters?
I'm curious how BD will write that .
 
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I'm torn with the new models, i do like them but they don't look realistic for some reason, could be the skin tone or the eyes...hard for me to tell

The in-game comparison of Ruby felt like her freckles were too "in your face" and visible.

With Emiko, i liked the change right away....this one I'm not so sure of
 
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Braindrop said:
I'm all for polls but there's been a lot of changes and different versions made from the initial showing, mainly from feedback on discord. There's even a first look at a potential Moon change. :)
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I like both sets tbh, and prefer second one. Only thing that off puts a little is the eyes. Dunno if it's a lighting thing but in the second one they look a little glassy especially on Moon, if that makes sense. But that's just my opinion, great work!
 
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