He must be having a hard time nerfing the MC's cock, that's why it takes so long from this update.
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Spfjolietjake
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That literally isn't the reason. Real life happens and makes certain devs rearrange their schedules.
Thankfully BD always delivers albeit some times it is slower than others (again real life shit happens) but no non-troll can honestly or literally say he ever milked his supporters.
It is normal for developers to start their games with all the energy and then lengthen the update times.
Spfjolietjake
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That's human nature imo, not only devs.
If being a dev was a normal job it would have things like sick days, fmla, vacation time off etc. They don't though, so when working solo life's crazy situations still have to be dealt with and make for more noticeable delays.
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I also mute music most of the time because often the free music used is also used a lot by youtubers and it really takes me out of the experience to be like "I've heard this before". So if he hasn't started doing music I don't see much reason to start now.
now that my 2 cents are in there I just wanted to say the part with tia and jamie was hot as fuck and I hope jamie is more involved in the future like that.
now that my 2 cents are in there I just wanted to say the part with tia and jamie was hot as fuck and I hope jamie is more involved in the future like that.
My apologies, I misread, or misremembered the Mind Drop where he brought it up. He wasn't asking for people's opinion, the Dev shared his opinion that it wasn't necessary - which makes everyone who is sharing that it is also their opinion in support of the Dev's opinion. Still feels valid to me in this case.
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ok .. ok ... i've heard alot about music in this game (or ) others ... to tell the truth .. i've never in my life walked down the street checking out some young babes thinking ... where's that music coming from 
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It doesn't add anything though. It's literally just '+1' posts. If you want to contribute to the discussion about music say something like for example I think music with lyrics is distracting, game music should be instrumental. Something about the merits of each character having a musical piece associated with them vs. music based on the mood and energy of the scene. Just something that actually adds to the conversation!
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But that should be the developer responsibility. You can always fix something within a game with mods but doesn't that just shows that there is something wrong with the game if you need mods to fix it? The fact that you don't like music in games and you proudly mute them all the time doesn't mean games don't need it. This should be a dev work to give players a choice, you can mute the music if you dont like it and the others are happy having music in.
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There are games that are like a blockbuster movie and really benefit from a good soundtrack. Then there are games, like WVM, that wouldn't need more than your random Spotify list - just some carefree background droning (if at all).
And that is much more subjective. If a dev can pull that off - great. If he can't, and BD seems to be that latter kind of dev, they really shouldn't do so but stick to what they like and can do. Everyone can just turn on the radio or play their default music - no need for BD to invest his time into finding the same 4 free tracks everyone is using.
Or to actually code a system for adding your music into the game, so we can avoid those infamous free tracks - you would still need to add your own favorite music - why has it to be inside the VN instead of just from your normal source of music?
If BD has no talent for choosing music the majority likes, the result of adding that to the game would be like that day at work where a colleague of mine played mongolian throat singing tracks almost all day ... "WHY!?"
Just because someone makes a mod for something doesn't necessarily mean that it's something that should have been part of the creative process of the modded product.
I'm using the "Reign of Terror" (Diablo) mod in Grim Dawn sometimes. This just means I like Diablo and would like to have more content in that universe. Neither should Grim Dawn be Diablo, nor should Diablo necessarily play like Grim Dawn. If anything, it means Diablo 4 should be out sooner and better than Diablo 3 was/is.
Like PrimeGuy I had to go back to see what exactly BD wrote.
- If we go on from 'BD just stated what he thinks', and just saying you share his views isn't relevant - how is then telling us that you don't and what type of music you would like or prefer to have relevant? (Based on BD just having told us his personal view on the topic, but not having started a discussion.)
- If we see this as a discussion about music in this VN in general, though, then both are relevant as they show what kind of music people would like to have in it (or not). This might let BD rethink his views if there was a vast majority that wanted music.
- If it had been a discussion about what type of music you like most in VNs or specific story circumstances (this time not related to where it comes from) - then yes, saying 'I mute VN music and listen to my own' doesn't really help anyone. But no one started that kind of discussion.
- And in case we just comment on BDs views of music in WVM - then again both kinds of comments are relevant, because they can give BD an impression of how others views on this topic do match his own - or don't.
And that is much more subjective. If a dev can pull that off - great. If he can't, and BD seems to be that latter kind of dev, they really shouldn't do so but stick to what they like and can do. Everyone can just turn on the radio or play their default music - no need for BD to invest his time into finding the same 4 free tracks everyone is using.
Or to actually code a system for adding your music into the game, so we can avoid those infamous free tracks - you would still need to add your own favorite music - why has it to be inside the VN instead of just from your normal source of music?
If BD has no talent for choosing music the majority likes, the result of adding that to the game would be like that day at work where a colleague of mine played mongolian throat singing tracks almost all day ... "WHY!?"
Just because someone makes a mod for something doesn't necessarily mean that it's something that should have been part of the creative process of the modded product.
I'm using the "Reign of Terror" (Diablo) mod in Grim Dawn sometimes. This just means I like Diablo and would like to have more content in that universe. Neither should Grim Dawn be Diablo, nor should Diablo necessarily play like Grim Dawn. If anything, it means Diablo 4 should be out sooner and better than Diablo 3 was/is.
Like PrimeGuy I had to go back to see what exactly BD wrote.
- If we go on from 'BD just stated what he thinks', and just saying you share his views isn't relevant - how is then telling us that you don't and what type of music you would like or prefer to have relevant? (Based on BD just having told us his personal view on the topic, but not having started a discussion.)
- If we see this as a discussion about music in this VN in general, though, then both are relevant as they show what kind of music people would like to have in it (or not). This might let BD rethink his views if there was a vast majority that wanted music.
- If it had been a discussion about what type of music you like most in VNs or specific story circumstances (this time not related to where it comes from) - then yes, saying 'I mute VN music and listen to my own' doesn't really help anyone. But no one started that kind of discussion.
- And in case we just comment on BDs views of music in WVM - then again both kinds of comments are relevant, because they can give BD an impression of how others views on this topic do match his own - or don't.
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Ah, yes. The VNs I play aren‘t kinetic enough so I need Walkthrough Mods to „fix“ them.
I think Ill wait until there's 1GB update but not play until I'm certain there's another update and when.
The story is too good to take a long pause. Not many games this good out there.
The story is too good to take a long pause. Not many games this good out there.
Not really fond of music or sound. That's not why we download this game.There are games that are like a blockbuster movie and really benefit from a good soundtrack. Then there are games, like WVM, that wouldn't need more than your random Spotify list - just some carefree background droning.
And that is much more subjective. If a dev can pull that off - great. If he can't, and BD seems to be that latter kind of dev, they really shouldn't do so but stick to what they like and can do. Everyone can just turn on the radio or play their default music - no need for BD to invest his time into finding the same 4 free tracks everyone is using.
Or to actually code a system for adding your music into the game, so we can avoid those infamous free tracks - you would still need to add your own favorite music - why has it to be inside the VN instead of just from your normal source of music?
If BD has no talent for choosing music the majority likes, the result of adding that to the game would be like that day at work where a colleague of mine played mongolian throat singing tracks almost all day ... "WHY!?"
Just because someone makes a mod for something doesn't necessarily mean that it's something that should have been part of the creative process of the modded product.
I'm using the "Reign of Terror" (Diablo) mod in Grim Dawn sometimes. This just means I like Diablo and would like to have more content in that universe. Neither should Grim Dawn be Diablo, nor should Diablo necessarily play like Grim Dawn. If anything, it means Diablo 4 should be out sooner and better than Diablo 3 was/is.
Like PrimeGuy I had to go back to see what exactly BD wrote.
- If we go on from 'BD just stated what he thinks', and just saying you share his views isn't relevant - how is then telling us that you don't and what type of music you would like or prefer to have relevant? (Based on BD just having told us his personal view on the topic, but not having started a discussion.)
- If we see this as a discussion about music in this VN in general, though, then both are relevant as they show what kind of music people would like to have in it (or not). This might let BD rethink his views if there was a vast majority that wanted music.
- If it had been a discussion about what type of music you like most in VNs or specific story circumstances (this time not related to where it comes from) - then yes, saying 'I mute VN music and listen to my own' doesn't really help anyone. But no one started that kind of discussion.
- And in case we just comment on BDs views of music in WVM - then again both kinds of comments are relevant, because they can give BD an impression of how others views on this topic do match his own - or don't.
We're here for the story and the next update, that's all.
I play all my games mute. It makes no difference .
It's September 30th already in parts of the globe, which means it's Willow's birthday! Happy Birthday to our favorite tough girl who always ready to strike, especially if you dare mess with her BruBru MC.
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Mmm Sound effects I can see and get behind. Music isn't a bad option (along with a mute option) but you need to be careful to make sure the bgm matches the mood you're going for. Since this is a first person perspective; the bgm should match the mood of our MC and thus be reflective of that.
For instance, I see where music can enchance the feelings you might want out of the story. They should help set the mood and look for ambiance and moods change slowly so having a mix of similar but different is not a bad thing. Motifs and such. Like how Willow's theme in the story will change but also should stay similar in nature.
Depending on HOW it is implimented will fine tune some decisions as you will/should make sure the loop feels good if you plan to loop said music. And that the loop is effectively seemless in terms of ideal working conditions or common working conditions.
Oh and lastly, where music is common, silence becomes a statement. Cutting out the music abuptly is catching.
Or, of course, don't. Perfectly valid option.
For instance, I see where music can enchance the feelings you might want out of the story. They should help set the mood and look for ambiance and moods change slowly so having a mix of similar but different is not a bad thing. Motifs and such. Like how Willow's theme in the story will change but also should stay similar in nature.
Depending on HOW it is implimented will fine tune some decisions as you will/should make sure the loop feels good if you plan to loop said music. And that the loop is effectively seemless in terms of ideal working conditions or common working conditions.
Oh and lastly, where music is common, silence becomes a statement. Cutting out the music abuptly is catching.
Or, of course, don't. Perfectly valid option.
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I just checked, and all the game download links for Windows/Linux and Mac were 9.5.1 (based on the filenames, and this includes the compressed version). The Android links are already labeled as 9.5, so I didn't check them.
The only difference between 9.5 and 9.5.1 are some bugfixes, though, so it might not matter which of the two you're playing.