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MadMonk

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Wow, we did not even get a fancy sob story to go with the delay....
Honestly, the game died a year ago, now it is all just on keeping the show up to get a bit more out of it, pausing Patreons every now and then to keep people thinking that something might come, giving dates for 6 months now and some actually still believe them :D
Nothing new we did not see on this Website done by other Devs countless times before, and it never ended well for the project.
 
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Why am I not surprised that BD didn't live up to his promise again. At this point they just need to mark this game as abandoned and get it over with because it's obvious that he doesn't want to give any of his fans anything and has lost all the trust that most of us had for him. It's also obvious that he has no respect for us and doesn't want to work on the game anymore.
 
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If anyone really believes that what Braindrop has is a problem of his content being so bad that is not release worthy, then they are delusional

What Braindrop has is fear, he is terrified of releasing the content, so much, that he cant make that decision. That's why he keep making excuses and delays, he is unable to make the decision to release the update, and thats why he has made like 5 polls already about releasing what he has or not.

he needs the decision to be made by someone else because he cant do it himself, but the Patreons he has are unable to realize that and keep pushing him down
 
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juan palote said:
If anyone really believes that what Braindrop has is a problem of his content being so bad that is not release worthy, then they are delusional

What Braindrop has is fear, he is terrified of releasing the content, so much, that he cant make that decision. That's why he keep making excuses and delays, he is unable to make the decision to release the update, and thats why he has made like 5 polls already about releasing what he has or not.

he needs the decision to be made by someone else because he cant do it himself, but the Patreons he has are unable to realize that and keep pushing him down
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Tbh i would have agreed with this post if there was proof that he did anything at all. But as of right now nope I don't think it's fear it's just plain old procrastination. And there is a cult following that exists to enable it so who the fuck knows what's what anymore. Also, everyone is going through something so that whole tired ass "he's down bad" excuse is played out. At some point you need to just say it's you and do better not say "I'll hit it hard tomorrow!" but what can I do right now to change my circumstance? That's the difference between people that have shit to do and get done and people that will meander, gaslight, and blame circumstance. This dude is in the prime of his life making crazy capital has started a family and can provide for said family what is the issue with his life really? If it can't be quantified it's something not worth thinking about everyone in some form or fashion has ADHD and are or was depressed in their life, everyone living today has experienced loss BD isn't special in this regard. That's not to say that he deserves no sympathy but how long is this shit going to go on, how long is the dev going to look for sympathy? Shit, a lot here are less sympathetic with people they actually know so the well has run dry for him as to be expected. Now people just want the results of his 10-month long hiatus which honestly isn't that crazy of a notion since this is how he makes his money so where is the fruit of that almost year-long labor?
 
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juan palote said:
If anyone really believes that what Braindrop has is a problem of his content being so bad that is not release worthy, then they are delusional

What Braindrop has is fear, he is terrified of releasing the content, so much, that he cant make that decision. That's why he keep making excuses and delays, he is unable to make the decision to release the update, and thats why he has made like 5 polls already about releasing what he has or not.

he needs the decision to be made by someone else because he cant do it himself, but the Patreons he has are unable to realize that and keep pushing him down
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Uh, he's making like 20~ grand a month on Patreon.. I'm pretty sure it's far more simplistic than you're claiming.

If anything, He fears ending this game, and losing all those patreons, and having to creating something new that people will enjoy.
 
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Creative work is a more difficult matter than many people know or acknowledge. I can tell you from my own experience, as well as from observing some devs, that you can very quickly write yourself into a wall because you want too much: too many ideas to work with, too many characters to introduce, and so on.

The current situation reminds me of the classic Simpsons episode, in which Mr. Burns lost his nuclear power plant because of bad business decisions and he surrounded himself with too many yes-men. His patreons, although they mean well, realize that BD needs to be pushed kindly but firmly in the direction of just sending his content to his beta testers and then fixing potential bugs according to the reports and then just releasing what he has. There is a relatively appropriate expression: The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
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I just can't wrap my head around the fact that there was supposedly a 1400-2000 render update completed in january (6 months ago) now apparently it's 300-700 renders yet people can't see the woods for the trees? Theres a lot of talk about his mental state, about whether hes lying or not but we don't have access to his mind so we'll never know for cetain, but the numbers don't lie, you're free to interpret them however you like but us mathematicians can see something aint adding up.
 
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Coochiesurgeon said:
I just can't wrap my head around the fact that there was supposedly a 1400-2000 render update completed in january (6 months ago) now apparently it's 300-700 renders yet people can't see the woods for the trees? Theres a lot of talk about his mental state, about whether hes lying or not but we don't have access to his mind so we'll never know for cetain, but the numbers don't lie, you're free to interpret them however you like but us mathematicians can see something aint adding up.
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I agree, he has been saying for months now that an update has been nearly finished and there is always some reason for delaying it. He might be telling the truth. He might be lying (Only he will know), it doesn't really matter. If he is telling the truth and having all these issues. Maybe it time to either put the game on hold or hire someone to take over. At least until he can get himself back to a place where he can take back over or pick back up and actually deliver some updates. I do not see anything changing in the near future and don't see us getting any update, so long as his patreon supporter keep helping him put it off.

I hope I am wrong, but right now it just seems like all he is going to keep doing is pausing the pledges. Until he needs more money. Than if we are lucky, He will release and update. Un-pause the pledge telling everyone how hard he is working on the game for a few months. Then when another update is getting close to being finished. He'll come up with a reason to delay until people start question stuff. Pause the pledges again and claim he going to keep working as hard and ever on the game, but can't justify taking peoples money when it has been so long without an update. Than months later he'll do it all over again.

Once again I hope I am wrong, but this is how I am starting to feel.
 
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I've been reading this thread for some time.. A long time too...
And the time has come for me to leave some comments myself.
bd clearly told everybody he has mental issues.
If you encounter IRL anybody with mental problems, know that YOU can't solve anything.
the only thing you can do is listen....
a professional also only listens.... and can show someone the way to solving issues...
Not by giving advice in a manner like I would do this, or you should do that...
but by listening to the problem and how the thinking proces of the subject is at this moment and trying to change THAT PROCES.
he/she is the ONLY one that can solve any issues him/her self.

to braindrop: Don't listen to anyone. here or on patreon.
Get some professional help if possible.
Leave this game for what it is at the moment and think about yourself and your mental health first!
there will come a time that making computer games will be fun again. but clearly not now, and not in the near future.
solve your mental issues first!
to hell with all the people who give you (well meant) advice. Nobody can solve your problems. only you can yourself.

I sincerely hope you get well soon
 
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Mirewen said:
I've been reading this thread for some time.. A long time too...
And the time has come for me to leave some comments myself.
First to all the whiners about updates and the timetables.... you should just STFU.
bd clearly told everybody he has mental issues.
If you encounter IRL anybody with mental problems, know that YOU can't solve anything.
the only thing you can do is listen....
a professional also only listens.... and can show someone the way to solving issues...
Not by giving advice in a manner like I would do this, or you should do that...
but by listening to the problem and how the thinking proces of the subject is at this moment and trying to change THAT PROCES.
he/she is the ONLY one that can solve any issues him/her self.

to braindrop: Don't listen to anyone. here or on patreon.
Get some professional help if possible.
Leave this game for what it is at the moment and think about yourself and your mental health first!
there will come a time that making computer games will be fun again. but clearly not now, and not in the near future.
solve your mental issues first!
to hell with all the people who give you (well meant) advice. Nobody can solve your problems. only you can yourself.

I sincerely hope you get well soon
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The only thing to do is listen.... and give him money right? Keep that dollar dollar coming, yo.

I dont think anyone here is saying that BD shouldn't be listened to - in fact most people are saying he needs HELP. Professional help, not just people listening to him in discord.

But what we are saying is that he shouldn't get paid to drag his feet. This project should be paused properly, stop the scammy behaviour.
 
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bluetack_man said:
The only thing to do is listen.... and give him money right? Keep that dollar dollar coming, yo.

I dont think anyone here is saying that BD shouldn't be listened to - in fact most people are saying he needs HELP. Professional help, not just people listening to him in discord.

But what we are saying is that he shouldn't get paid to drag his feet. This project should be paused properly, stop the scammy behaviour.
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people like you keep his problems alive.
he wants to keep on pleasing his patreons and followers. you can stop your payments yourself. so stop whining about money.
 
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