VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[jonnyd901]

Truly please explain to me how a dev owes pirates anything? You state that he deserves toxicity and that it's all honesty. So honestly please do tell what this dev or any other owes pirates?

I doubt all the posts I referred to are deleted but I'm sure the worst were but I refuse to take the time to search for the remaining sorry.

The trouble being you assume everyone on here is a pirate plenty on here subscribe to games. Sites like these provide free advertising to the games which result in them gaining patrons making players eager for the next update. You also realise that some people on here have been booted from BD's patrons page due to voicing their opinion and can only speak their mind here. Not saying BD hasn't had a rough time but he pulls in more money in a month compared to other VN's who are showing results. Like it was commented on this forum earlier when one of BD's fans compared it to Artemis,LOF,BAD and Eternum amongst a few.
Drifty has been through a rough patch but is getting through it his game is more complex than WVM he even spent 2 months of his patron fee to keep the music in the game and it's nearly ready. Artemis dig.b has done a good job with that game but still managed to rework some of it same issues with soundtracks even hired a composer to score some of them but has managed to hit nearly 3k renders since January. BAD we had the interlude to keep us busy but the next update is going to be a massive one but still has issues like others due to it being on steam. Eternum again another game that is making good progress with a good storyline.

Point being if his patrons can't complain which just results in them being kicked from his patron/subscribe star they will take to the forums wherever they are to voice their opinion. You can't blame them it was the end of last year before they had any real update compare it to BAD/Artemis which were released round the same time as that update and are heading for their next release within the next 3 months. They have been kept updated by the dev's which is why you don't see bitching on there just game talk and eagerness for the update's to drop. Compare dev's who care about their subscribers to BD you'll see the difference he's getting far more money than others but doesn't have to deal with music,mini games,constant in game choices ect ect so what is all that money going to if it's just renders and animations when others spend to keep the game as they want it.

If he really cared about it like he said he would have hired help like others have he's earning more than others to easily achieve it but that alone proves a point he doesn't want to press further with the game it seems milking even more

 

[Vongola-XI]

Hey I'm new and I'm not sure which link to install this game from. Season 2 Chapter 1 Episode 1 or v0.10.0.1?

 

[FatherTime-63]

Hey I'm new and I'm not sure which link to install this game from. Season 2 Chapter 1 Episode 1 or v0.10.0.1?

Season 2 Chapter 1 starts at the beginning and includes up to Season 2 Chapter 1 - its a one and done file

 

[jonnyd901]

Truly please explain to me how a dev owes pirates anything? You state that he deserves toxicity and that it's all honesty. So honestly please do tell what this dev or any other owes pirates?

I doubt all the posts I referred to are deleted but I'm sure the worst were but I refuse to take the time to search for the remaining sorry.

Maybe this will help you think why people are pissed

 

[Steinchen]

Maybe this will help you think why people are pissed View attachment 1957862

Well i was a pantreon from the very first day on since the first version came out until this year in february.
I postet on pantreon at that time that i want more regular updates again and not updates every now and then.

5 minutes later my post was deleted,and i asked what the fuck that was,and guess what i was banned.

So the "rumors" are true and i was not the only one.

 

[kcaldw]

Well i was a pantreon from the very first day on since the first version came out until this year in february.
I postet on pantreon at that time that i want more regular updates again and not updates every now and then.

5 minutes later my post was deleted,and i asked what the fuck that was,and guess what i was banned.

So the "rumors" are true and i was not the only one.

Yeah you got banned just like a few others who called the DEV out. Apparently the reason that we were banned is not only did we call him out but because we hurt his feelings and we were mean.

 

[Steinchen]

Yeah you got banned just like a few others who called the DEV out. Apparently the reason that we were banned is not only did we call him out but because we hurt his feelings and we were mean.

Yeah he wrote something like that as an answer when i asked him "what the fuck is wrong with you??"
My posting was not nice enough for him or something like that.

 

[kcaldw]

Yeah he wrote something like that as an answer when i asked him "what the fuck is wrong with you??"
My posting was not nice enough for him or something like that.

Yeah that's what he told a lot of us. Apparently we were over critical of him and it stressed him out. He said that people were extremely mean to him on Patreon and Discord so he is going to hire someone to manage things. He also says that this is just a hobby which is a bunch of horse shit.

 

[WhiteyG]

Unfortunately nothing is really going to change. The number of patrons has gone up not down. The end of June I believe it was around 3500. It went down to around 3000 at the start of July. There is always some fall off at the start of every month, but that seemed like a decent drop. However July hasn't ended yet and it's back up over 3600.

It's not my money and everyone can do with their own money whatever they like, but I don't believe any real change will happen without support dropping off to the point where BD has to start worrying. That hasn't happened yet and doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon. Really like the game and would love to see it getting back on track, but as long as the money is flowing in without BD having to produce anything other than excuses, nothing is likely to change.

 

[DanteRed]

As someone mildly interested in this game, I'm dissapointed to see that this dev went the Icstor route. I did check on his posts from time to time in the last 2 years and while he seemed a nice enough guy, it's sad to see that the success went to his head.
He used to have a solid work ethic but now, it's just excuses and empty promises.

I get it, in a way, with him getting married and having a baby. A baby is a game changer and in the first few years, an absorbing pit of money and attention. The decent thing to do would have been for him to put this game on hold and figure things out in his personal life and maybe, just maybe, work on the game when he had the time, which would be very little. Instead, he preferred to lie to his fans, deliver some half assed update and call it a day.

There might be people who will say that I'm blaming his family or some other stuff like that. No, I am not doing that. What I am trying to do is to explain a few things, that I interpreted from what people are saying and my (admittedly little) knowledge that I have of the dev. I actually wish him all the best when it comes to his personal life.

For those of you defending him, I have to ask, why are you doing this? Has he not had missed deadlines before? Did he not make promises that he has continuously broken? Did he not say that he will release one update of 300 renders and shortly after, another one of 400 renders?

I actually have a suggestion for you. Instead of trusting blindly, try to doubt him a little. You'll see that you can find out more about someone that way. Try to ask him, on patreon or discord why he is having such a hard time delivering a product that he has continuously said is almost ready and see how he reacts to your question. And if you are afraid that you're going to lose his friendship, remember that your life was fine before knowing him. It can only get better if you remove a toxic friendship.

 

[OmegaLord]

Yeah BD lost all faith and trust from me as well. I was a subbed to him for about a year and a half and even with the fewer times he paused pledges I still feel ripped off. (Paid enough for a new modern day AAA title)
I was not always posting but did give understanding when things initially went wrong as I do understand life happens, but it kept happening with delays and further delays, I pointed this out in a constructive way and got flamed by his Zealots even though I kept it pure facts with at most mild disapproval.
Later after yet another delay I voiced my opinion on how badly his money management is if he can't afford to suspend pledges for a month and should get a professional to help him as well as possibly hiring outside help even if just to render the stuff he has made since he does not want to give up creative control. This got removed, no foul language the worst was my doubt as to his constant excuses.

He needs help but refuses it or at least that is what it seems, it is possible he is just taking this for a ride as long as he can too at this point.

 

[Battle Brother Mac]

Yeah BD lost all faith and trust from me as well. I was a subbed to him for about a year and a half and even with the fewer times he paused pledges I still feel ripped off. (Paid enough for a new modern day AAA title)
I was not always posting but did give understanding when things initially went wrong as I do understand life happens, but it kept happening with delays and further delays, I pointed this out in a constructive way and got flamed by his Zealots even though I kept it pure facts with at most mild disapproval.
Later after yet another delay I voiced my opinion on how badly his money management is if he can't afford to suspend pledges for a month and should get a professional to help him as well as possibly hiring outside help even if just to render the stuff he has made since he does not want to give up creative control. This got removed, no foul language the worst was my doubt as to his constant excuses.

He needs help but refuses it or at least that is what it seems, it is possible he is just taking this for a ride as long as he can too at this point.

He obviously won't ever hire anyone to help him in his game because he want all the money for himself.

 

[StopMeIfYouCan]

People forgets this was 5 year project and he extended to 10 years. I said it earlier go to ur own tailors and ask them for bigger pockets. The supporters gonna need it. This thread almost created 3 years ago.

Here is the (un)funny truth. This game about basketball and we haven't seen a single basketball game yet. In a 3 year period we're still at early chapters on story according to dev. Plot is not moving, game not getting updated. But still people praises him. I just can't make any sense any of this.

Lets compare him with another dev;

For example there is a game called Nursing Back to Pleasure by Daniels K. Almost in a year (13 months) he completed his game. He already completed 9 other games. He's got only 1.3k patreon.

Comparing to BD this guys deserves at least 10k+ patreon.

 

[jonnyd901]

Unfortunately nothing is really going to change. The number of patrons has gone up not down. The end of June I believe it was around 3500. It went down to around 3000 at the start of July. There is always some fall off at the start of every month, but that seemed like a decent drop. However July hasn't ended yet and it's back up over 3600.

It's not my money and everyone can do with their own money whatever they like, but I don't believe any real change will happen without support dropping off to the point where BD has to start worrying. That hasn't happened yet and doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon. Really like the game and would love to see it getting back on track, but as long as the money is flowing in without BD having to produce anything other than excuses, nothing is likely to change.

People forgets this was 5 year project and he extended to 10 years. I said it earlier go to ur own tailors and ask them for bigger pockets. The supporters gonna need it. This thread almost created 3 years ago.

Here is the (un)funny truth. This game about basketball and we haven't seen a single basketball game yet. In a 3 year period we're still at early chapters on story according to dev. Plot is not moving, game not getting updated. But still people praises him. I just can't make any sense any of this.

Lets compare him with another dev;

For example there is a game called Nursing Back to Pleasure by Daniels K. Almost in a year (13 months) he completed his game. He already completed 9 other games. He's got only 1.3k patreon.

Comparing to BD this guys deserves at least 10k+ patreon.

Couldn't have said it better myself there are plenty of other dev's there who deliver and are getting nowhere near the support of BD

 

[Silentorange18]

Lets compare him with another dev;

For example there is a game called Nursing Back to Pleasure by Daniels K. Almost in a year (13 months) he completed his game. He already completed 9 other games. He's got only 1.3k patreon.

Comparing to BD this guys deserves at least 10k+ patreon.

Daniel K produce mediocre storyline the only good thing on him is render and completing his work i have a doubt he will never change the way he write his story

 

[Steinchen]

Daniel K produce mediocre storyline the only good thing on him is render and completing his work i have a doubt he will never change the way he write his story

not to mention that he has a habbit of making really shitty endings for his games.

 

[K18]

It's Aug 1st. Wishing a happy birthday to this sexy pink-haired mama, Vanessa.

Happy Birthday Vanessa!

 

[ProofreadingRUS]

I kinda liked...
Day in the Life of: Harper
Too bad it was short, and we didn't get to see Harper naked once.
What was that about, and what was that about MC wearing a hoodie?
Wonder who we'll see next?

 

[Easylovin84]

Daniel K produce mediocre storyline the only good thing on him is render and completing his work i have a doubt he will never change the way he write his story

I don't think BD will be winning a Pulitzer Prize for the writing in WVM either. Daniels K can say he finished games at least even if the endings kinda sucked.

 

[mightybored]

I think what's slowing down BD (on top of the personal issues) is the fact that he's basically re-doing the entire beginning of the game as well as trying to push forward. I think it would be worth it to just dump that and leave it as-is, and then just move forward with the new organized version, because then there'd be a delineation between MC's life, and MC's life with 3 (or however) managers in control. Like, use the meta to enforce how much MC's life needed order before Jamie/Shauna/Jasmine took over.