VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch.1 Ep.13 F] [Braindrop]

[creyden]

It feels like I just read a whole lot of nothing. I'll believe that something's changed after there is some proof. Hiring a PR manager means nothing without product. Which, well, hasn't been there for a year. I don't count DITLO, because honestly, that was ridiculous. Broken promises over and over. I'll consider to support him again after I see that he's taking this seriously.

Also if the fact that a lot of people support him financially can't hold him accountable to keep his word, I doubt a PR person can. And you don't have a proper main content flow under control, why do you even think about releasing any side stuff and changing patreon tiers? DITLO was supposed to help him overcome his block and we can see how that worked out. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't get the logic behind this. And side note, why make a side content of someone who's not been nude in the main game in the first place when you then censor it. Just make it of someone else first ffs.

I really wish this will change things for the better and we won't see any more lies and broken promises. I'll wait to see how it goes. But I won't hold my breath. GL to BD and Mackenzie though.

 

[Steinchen]

actions speak louder than words and we seen way to much words and no actions in this case so excuse if the most believe not a single word now unless we see some actions behind those words that mean nothing at this point.

sure sure BD had some RL shit going on and that is out of the question here,but the rest that he distanced himself from his Social medias and fanbase because he can not handle the mean or threatening DM´S he is getting anymore is weak and beond stupid because no DEV i know or support has a PR manager that handles his social medias because in the most cases they would shoot themselfes in the knee with that.

and lets be honest here :

All the Threats and shit he is getting over DM or mail or whatever is just BULLIING over the internet from some Jealous idiots and nothing more.
a little bit he is at fault too i must say because he has always told half of his life story in his Minddrops,and many many supporters always told him that he should not write so much from his personal life in this awfully long minddrops everytime.
and sadly if you do that that is mostly the result that comes out of this BULLIING.

 

[aaachris]

actions speak louder than words and we seen way to much words and no actions in this case so excuse if the most believe not a single word now unless we see some actions behind those words that mean nothing at this point.

sure sure BD had some RL shit going on and that is out of the question here,but the rest that he distanced himself from his Social medias and fanbase because he can not handle the mean or threatening DM´S he is getting anymore is weak and beond stupid because no DEV i know or support has a PR manager that handles his social medias because in the most cases they would shoot themselfes in the knee with that.

and lets be honest here :

All the Threats and shit he is getting over DM or mail or whatever ist just BULLIING over the internet from some Jealous idiots and nothing more.
a little bit he is at fault too i must say because he has always told half of his life story in his Minddrops,and many many supporters always told him that he should not write so much from his personal life in this awfully long minddrops everytime.
and sadly if you do that that is mostly the result that comes out of this BULLIING.

Threats are in no way excusable, you can go jail for that shit. The dev has pulled the hobby card so as a supporter you're free to pull out. Keeping the support on, gives the dev freedom to continue his charade without fearing repercussions.

 

[Steinchen]

Threats are in no way excusable, you can go jail for that shit.

no shit really??
for that to happen you need to do something about it and not to cut of all ties to everything and hire someone that reads that shit for you...
but however it is not so easy to get this freaks in the World Wide Web.
and it costs money a lot of it and it takes time....

The dev has pulled the hobby card so as a supporter you're free to pull out. Keeping the support on, gives the dev freedom to continue his charade without fearing repercussions.

i was a high tier supporter from the first version postet here untill this year in february when he banned me from pantreon because i wrote a not nice enough commend when he asked about the release scheudle.

 

[luci4n0]

Thanks for reading

That's all we have to share for this first Mind Drop.

We do apologize for how long this took to get out, there were plenty of issues with granting me access to the patreon and SS accounts. Things won't take as long moving forward.

We understand the situation we are in and how we're perceived right now. Our goal right now is just to get back on track however we can. Braindrop and I are forever grateful for all of the support through some of his worst times.

It's a new day and we want to fix things.

More soon.

Thank you guys and it's nice to meet you all. I will do my best to answer any questions you may have.

just hearing this news makes me happy and if things go as they say they will return to the field as one of the best games of the year.

after having left strong words and sayings for BD this only makes my faith return to this great dev that I have been following since the beginning in the first faces of wvm. And if they have delays with something it's better to let them know before they create a lot of bad feeling in the community. XD

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

I guess the new side content comes with "Guess the Boob" now? Hmmm, MacKenzie would make sense as answer, but we haven't seen her naked in the game yet, so the pic would be censored. So I am going by affinity and say Shauna.

Kidding aside, Mackenzie, please relay to BD that side content is fine and dandy, but high priority should be to get main content back on solid tracks. I mean when I paid my roughly ten bucks a one year subscription late last year I expected a tad bit more than a single update for it. And yes, I know that this is not a high roller payment and insignificant in the grand scheme of things. But still.

 

[Jordan369]

I guess the new side content comes with "Guess the Boob" now? Hmmm, MacKenzie would make sense as answer, but we haven't seen her naked in the game yet, so the pic would be censored. So I am going by affinity and say Shauna.

Kidding aside, Mackenzie, please relay to BD that side content is fine and dandy, but high priority should be to get main content back on solid tracks. I mean when I paid my roughly ten bucks a one year subscription late last year I expected a tad bit more than a single update for it. And yes, I know that this is not a high roller payment and insignificant in the grand scheme of things. But still.

You understand that was just someone sharing the Patreon post and not the actual person posting here? Directing a comment at them seems kinda pointless if they aren't here to read the message to "relay".

 

[randomguy6516265165]

it is worth to play ch2 at this state?

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

You understand that was just someone sharing the Patreon post and not the actual person posting here? Directing a comment at them seems kinda pointless if they aren't here to read the message to "relay".

Good point. Comment copy/pasted on Patreon.

 

[Eticketjedi]

You understand that was just someone sharing the Patreon post and not the actual person posting here? Directing a comment at them seems kinda pointless if they aren't here to read the message to "relay".

A few people seemed to miss that. It will be interesting to see if they even establish a presence here.

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

However, some kind of confirmation or speculation to whom the boobs may belong to would be nice.

 

[Uthuriel]

However, some kind of confirmation or speculation to whom the boobs may belong to would be nice.

Those are my man boobs but you can't touch...

 

[Eticketjedi]

it is worth to play ch2 at this state?

Not yet. Other than the overall timeline restructuring, there really wasn't much added.

I'm hoping within another 5 updates or so we may actually see some basketball.

 

[Jondoen88]

Much wind, no promises past "things sucked and we are fixing it" well that's better than not even acknowledging it at least so credit were credit is due.

Would of been nicer to get an itemized list of "What was promised and failed to deliver on" so we can be unambiguously be on the same page instead of what feels like a full unmasked brushing under the rug event.

So again, more detail on what exactly is being asked forgiveness for.

Again hearing claims of said threats and bullying but no show of such rancor. Forgive me if I also call this claim wind but no proof, no pudding.

Even the most rancorous of this thread has been of promises broken and disappointment with yes, unkind words and uncharitable terms used, but not threat grade.

Now, here's the situation in a reductive nutshell. We waited 2y for a main game update, when it did FINALLY drop, it was only a month's effort shown (200 or so new renders) that's not worth the amount of even lip service I've given. Even charitable to say 1y for 1m work is still simply too little and far far too late.

You want people to believe again now that ~180K USD ish has been pissed away and the player base is generally pissed enough. I'm not sure how much accountability the paypigs want but I wouldn't be surprised if this has a "huh, well it ain't nothing" grade response. No hype, no disappointment. Just "oh the officials said a thing"

More Show, Less Tell. Show us plans, show us progress, show us with beta releases. Keep the paypigs happy or else you'll have an Animal Farm on your hands.

Recommendations...
Itemized Task List? Public Trello/Jira/Github?
Monthly Beta?

Side Content is "fine" but considering the shitstorm the last major "side content" was that MIGHT need to be downplayed until a reasonable cadence is shown (like 3 betas or a major release) cause right now BD hasn't proven he can handle doing side content while maintaining main game cadence. If there were more cooks in the kitchen or an explanation of why this happened would also go far. Or a plan that shows how work is going to be divided up to allow progress on both ends but slower.

 

[OEJ]

even if ppl are talking in a way that they are directly addressing the PR person, it still reaches its destination aka to the intended person.

im pretty sure both BD and MacKenzie are reading this.

 

[Vernalcash]

even if ppl are talking in a way that they are directly addressing the PR person, it still reaches its destination aka to the intended person.

im pretty sure both BD and MacKenzie are reading this.

Why would BD hire someone to interact with the fanbase then continue to interact with the fanbase himself? I don't think he's reading anything and I really hope he's not since it seems to have a very negative effect on his mental health.

 

[juan palote]

even if ppl are talking in a way that they are directly addressing the PR person, it still reaches its destination aka to the intended person.

im pretty sure both BD and MacKenzie are reading this.

If they are different people, then at least MacKenzie should be reading it.

Even if they dont like it, this is the biggest forum where this game is being discussed, and ignoring such a place would be another huge mistake

Staying with Patreon echo-chamber where everyone that says something slightly differenty to what they like is banned as the only feedback is setting the Titanic in direct course to the iceberg

 

[Hellster]

Why would BD hire someone to interact with the fanbase then continue to interact with the fanbase himself? I don't think he's reading anything and I really hope he's not since it seems to have a very negative effect on his mental health.

When it comes to making AVN's (or any game for that matter), devs need to be able to deal with a certain level of criticism/flac, because if they can't, then they won't be around for long.
They could make the greatest game in the world but there will always be someone who doesn't like it/has some criticism, so they need to be able to deal with it.

 

[Eticketjedi]

When it comes to making AVN's (or any game for that matter), devs need to be able to deal with a certain level of criticism/flac, because if they can't, then they won't be around for long.
They could make the greatest game in the world but there will always be someone who doesn't like it/has some criticism, so they need to be able to deal with it.

If they can't handle criticism and vitriol, and not everyone can, then they should at least hire or delegate someone to handle it for them.... wait...

 

[Kanzen]

Our plans change mostly everything that had been stated before. So forget everything that was said previously. We feel it is best to start fresh.

So does that mean the 2k render that was ready 6 months ago no longer exist? lol