DarkDank

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So I think Cheelai will be the 5th girl. Since he counts and ends at 5 looking at her.
So 4th I think is still ChiChi. Just a guess though.
First, the next Baby, maybe another independent Bulma, and another game, probably Kame Paradise 4 if I had to guess.
 

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Yamamoto is great but I always feel like his works are a tad brief for how long they take.
He's particularly set on not getting any sort of assistants so that's one reason why he takes his time. The only co-worker he has is the programmer and composer for all the videogames he published.
 
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I think you underestimate Pan's appeal, she had the most scenes in Kame Paradise 3 for a reason.
Also how is it a retcon? Pan is already born before Bulma even gets pregnant with Bra in Super.
She had more scenes because a guy Yamamoto is really close to begged him ad naseum for it and the game suffered. It wasn't nearly as successful as Kame Paradise 2 was and people complained heavily about Pan having been featured as much, especially over the likes of Bulma and Android 18 who only got a cameo, so you're wrong
Also I said it was a retcon, not sure if you know what that means but it means that something that was previously established was changed in a future update of the story. At the end of Z, Bra was older than Pan and while not canon, it was the same for GT. It was only in Super where they changed it, hence the retcon
 
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She had more scenes because a guy Yamamoto is really close to begged him ad naseum for it and the game suffered. It wasn't nearly as successful as Kame Paradise 2 was and people complained heavily about Pan having been featured as much, especially over the likes of Bulma and Android 18 who only got a cameo, so you're wrong
Also I said it was a retcon, not sure if you know what that means but it means that something that was previously established was changed in a future update of the story. At the end of Z, Bra was older than Pan and while not canon, it was the same for GT. It was only in Super where they changed it, hence the retcon
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Kame Paradise 1 was the real underperformer. 2 is the strongest yes, but 3 wasn't weak. It also released a whole 2 years later, so residual sales can still pick up. 2 was very successful, but 3 wasn't a failure or performed poorly by any means.

Also, I know what a retcon is. GT and end of Z never gave a birthday for either. Maybe a Daizenshu, but those were never Toriyama official, just shit Toei threw together.
 
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Sorry for double post, but if anything failed, it was Bulma Adventure 4, considering all the momentum Yamamoto has had lately...
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What this tells us is that people like DB era,teenage young Bulma over older MILF Bulma. Namek Bulma is fairly popular but she still falls short.
 
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Kame Paradise 1 was the real underperformer. 2 is the strongest yes, but 3 wasn't weak. It also released a whole 2 years later, so residual sales can still pick up. 2 was very successful, but 3 wasn't a failure or performed poorly by any means.

Also, I know what a retcon is. GT and end of Z never gave a birthday for either. Maybe a Daizenshu, but those were never Toriyama official, just shit Toei threw together.
For some reason, I think they removed it but there were two Kame Paradise 1s an original and an English version, and the total of them both put it slightly below Kame Paradise 2. Slightly as in a few hundred or so less, so it wasn't a failure by any metric. Either way though, the Kame Paradise games will always do better than Bulma Adventure simply because there's more than one girl and two years into its lifespan, Kame Paradise 2 had more buys than Kame Paradise 3 does now, so I dont think itll ever catch up
But any case, it wouldn't be wise for him to do a manga of Pan. It wouldn't sell very well and would be extremely hard to promote on Patreon, Twitter or elsewhere and it could probably get him cancelled off of many of those platforms. It was easier to hide it with Goku in Sex in Bath but because Pan would be the feature female act in a Baby Vegeta x Pan manga, it would be extremely hard to without getting deplatformed and I hope he doesnt try
 

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For some reason, I think they removed it but there were two Kame Paradise 1s an original and an English version, and the total of them both put it slightly below Kame Paradise 2. Slightly as in a few hundred or so less, so it wasn't a failure by any metric. Either way though, the Kame Paradise games will always do better than Bulma Adventure simply because there's more than one girl and two years into its lifespan, Kame Paradise 2 had more buys than Kame Paradise 3 does now, so I dont think itll ever catch up
But any case, it wouldn't be wise for him to do a manga of Pan. It wouldn't sell very well and would be extremely hard to promote on Patreon, Twitter or elsewhere and it could probably get him cancelled off of many of those platforms. It was easier to hide it with Goku in Sex in Bath but because Pan would be the feature female act in a Baby Vegeta x Pan manga, it would be extremely hard to without getting deplatformed and I hope he doesnt try
I want Yamamoto make game like Bulma Adventure 3, because i want to see scene with dialogue, many dialogues, not like now :(
 

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I want Yamamoto make game like Bulma Adventure 3, because i want to see scene with dialogue, many dialogues, not like now :(
I def like the dialogue in Kame Paradise 1 over the nothing static sex of KP 2 and 3, even if the sex scenes are technically better artistically, having the arc of the act makes it hotter. His fucking of Bulma in KP1 is still top tier.
 

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For some reason, I think they removed it but there were two Kame Paradise 1s an original and an English version, and the total of them both put it slightly below Kame Paradise 2. Slightly as in a few hundred or so less, so it wasn't a failure by any metric. Either way though, the Kame Paradise games will always do better than Bulma Adventure simply because there's more than one girl and two years into its lifespan, Kame Paradise 2 had more buys than Kame Paradise 3 does now, so I dont think itll ever catch up
But any case, it wouldn't be wise for him to do a manga of Pan. It wouldn't sell very well and would be extremely hard to promote on Patreon, Twitter or elsewhere and it could probably get him cancelled off of many of those platforms. It was easier to hide it with Goku in Sex in Bath but because Pan would be the feature female act in a Baby Vegeta x Pan manga, it would be extremely hard to without getting deplatformed and I hope he doesnt try
Then if KP1 didn't fail because of ChiChi, then KP3 didn't fail because of Pan.
It probably underperformed because it did overall less popular girls in general. Besides Pan and Videl, I didn't care for the cast that much. Kefla and the sayian girls are alright, but not fantastic.
 

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Then if KP1 didn't fail because of ChiChi, then KP3 didn't fail because of Pan.
It probably underperformed because it did overall less popular girls in general. Besides Pan and Videl, I didn't care for the cast that much. Kefla and the sayian girls are alright, but not fantastic.
Him not expanding on 18's scene was a crime, yeah. Like come on, you already made several works and hints on Roshi having a sex-anywhere-anytime free card with 18 with everyone wanting more after KP2.
 

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Him not expanding on 18's scene was a crime, yeah. Like come on, you already made several works and hints on Roshi having a sex-anywhere-anytime free card with 18 with everyone wanting more after KP2.
I disagree. He always does different versions of the girls. He already did base A18. Its not his style.
With Bulma, shes repeated, but shes wearing different clothes. Bunny, RR arc, and even in this her cameos are two different eras.
That said, I fully think in KP4 we'll get either Super 18 or GT18.
And if he's really saucy, he'll have Roshi bury his face in Marron GT's tits like 18 here, with 18 watching, before he fucks both of them. Nice mirror and reference to before.
 
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started the new doujinshi, hard to say what it will be yet tho
They started in bed together. Could be a married couple. Vegeta x Bulma, Krillin x 18, or ChiChi x Goku (or Videl x Gohan but doubt he'd do two Videl's back to back).
Or Change sequel of Oolong and Bulma next morning, but I doubt it.
 
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They started in bed together. Could be a married couple. Vegeta x Bulma, Krillin x 18, or ChiChi x Goku (or Videl x Gohan but doubt he'd do two Videl's back to back).
Or Change sequel of Oolong and Bulma next morning, but I doubt it.
Yeah, hopefully not any married couple as that's going to be boring as hell
 
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And a small spies. I'm guessing 85% certainty now its ChiChi x Goku, with Gohan spying. We haven't had a Sayian/Cell saga look ChiChi doujin, and Yamamoto likes to get every version of a character at least once lewded.
And people have been asking for vanilla/romance for a while. With the spice I guess being Gohan masturbating?
ChiChi starting it also makes sense, she's sexually aggressive in Yamamoto's works, with Goku (and Gohan in Love Triangle Z) being meek sexually.