VN Ren'Py Yesterday's Crossroads [Ch.3 v0.4.1a] [CHAQUINN0]

[Maximilian87]

I know this game has no harem, but i have a question about the girls:
Like in ep 1 you can go out with Lydia (i guess thats her name), but then it "locks" you out of the Olivia path.
my question is: do i have to reject all the girls that hes not "going for" early, so things dont blow up in MC's face, or he can keep dating them, and eventually have to set for one? is it something like "choose one, and choose wisely", or "go for it" and see what happens?

btw love the game

 

[Acesaw]

Nope, otherwise "harem" would be in the tags as well.

i see

 

[Maviarab]

I know this game has no harem, but i have a question about the girls:
Like in ep 1 you can go out with Lydia (i guess thats her name), but then it "locks" you out of the Olivia path.
my question is: do i have to reject all the girls that hes not "going for" early, so things dont blow up in MC's face, or he can keep dating them, and eventually have to set for one? is it something like "choose one, and choose wisely", or "go for it" and see what happens?

btw love the game

If you'd read just a few posts above yours, you'd have seen me say that paths very quickly start to overlap and conflict. So the game at some point will lock you out of others itself. However, to make it less messy and to make sure you don't accidentally get on someones path...it's probably better to not actively chase someone you're not interested in.

Currently there are no consequences....but there will be at some point and as said, despite how friendly you might be with someone, when paths clash, you'll have to make a decision.

 

[Quetzzz]

my question is: do i have to reject all the girls that hes not "going for" early, so things dont blow up in MC's face, or he can keep dating them, and eventually have to set for one? is it something like "choose one, and choose wisely", or "go for it" and see what happens?

Just reject everyone to be safe. That's what I do.

 

[duz1nn]

is there new context? because when i load my saved files i reach the end ''thank you for playing etc''

Is not a update , is more of a rework , a few bugfix and suchs . Thats why. He did added a few scenes and new phrases to the game , but nothing major . Theres also no new choices to make

Spoiler: maybe spoiler

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Now about the msgs above saying that you guys are locked in someone paths .. i dont know what you did to have that, because i played the game for 8 hours and i had not a single problem in that regard . I have a path where i did go out with every girl ( that shit will hit the fan very soon im guessing xdd with one of them already did ). But i also have my paths of each of girl , and i didnt had any path locked.
So i dont know how you guys got locked into someone paths.

Alright , this "rework" thing , i will give my point of view . For me this is pointless . Yes theres one or two new scenes , a few new lines , maybe theres a new choice or not , but theres no impact in the story, so i dont get why spend your time doing "all" of this for this result . Dont get me wrong , i like the game a lot , the story is interesting , all the girls are very interesting and all that , i just dont get it why spend time doing all that instead of spending that time rendering new things for the new chapter coming . Im not meaning to be disrespectful or anything , like i said , im just giving my pov about this and my thoughts on this matter.

 

[Quetzzz]

Alright , this "rework" thing , i will give my point of view . For me this is pointless . Yes theres one or two new scenes , a few new lines , maybe theres a new choice or not , but theres no impact in the story, so i dont get why spend your time doing "all" of this for this result .

With the game coming to Steam, the dev's motivation to polish it should be obvious. Potentially thousands of new players will get their hands on this game, and he wants their experience to be the best possible. And, the same for people who just replay from the start.

 

[Maviarab]

Alright , this "rework" thing , i will give my point of view . For me this is pointless . Yes theres one or two new scenes , a few new lines , maybe theres a new choice or not , but theres no impact in the story, so i dont get why spend your time doing "all" of this for this result . Dont get me wrong , i like the game a lot , the story is interesting , all the girls are very interesting and all that , i just dont get it why spend time doing all that instead of spending that time rendering new things for the new chapter coming . Im not meaning to be disrespectful or anything , like i said , im just giving my pov about this and my thoughts on this matter.

If you played as much as you say you have...you already know paths conflict and clash already.....

Chaq is already 50% of the way through the Chapter 4. So...yeah....

It was done as there was forced content with Kim (if we originally wanted nothing to do with her) and originally, some peeps said was too easy to entirely miss a LI.

 

[duz1nn]

I have a question.

Spoiler: GIRL

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[alive89]

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She kind of breaks the fourth wall here, the gallery she refers to is the one in the main menu. Gallery > Misc > Tasha, the picture you choose is then unlocked in her gallery (I went back to the menu and unlocked all the options in-game )

 

[cooldevo]

She kind of breaks the fourth wall here, the gallery she refers to is the one in the main menu. Gallery > Misc > Tasha, the picture you choose is then unlocked in her gallery (I went back to the menu and unlocked all the options in-game )

Tasha does ask for his number from her mom (Lydia). But it's also not something the MC would know as he was not there. I'm always torn on seeing scenes the MC is not a part of, in what's really a first person style game. It gives away a lot of stuff that I *shouldn't* know as the player of the MC. But it adds to the story and world building so I suspend the disbelief and accept it.

 

[cooldevo]

I was hoping this part got rewritten in this version. It really doesn't paint her in the best light.

The important part to remember, at this point in the story, is that you are only seeing specific flashbacks. In the conversations, that's where the bulk of the backstory comes out.

MC looks to have been with Keyla seriously, prior to Kim and Alessa. She left with her family to Japan and then they moved back to Buffalo. After Keyla left, MC went with Alessa; the MC's mom even asked about the correlation between Keyla leaving and him seeing Alessa.

While Keyla was in Buffalo she met Zeke, and they dated. When they returned to New York for Zeke's schooling, she realized Zeke was MC's best friend. MC and Keyla were sneaking around on Zeke around this time... Was it right? Nah, but it was just as much the MC's fault as Keyla's.

At some point the MC and Kim started getting close. Keyla decided to break up with Zeke, but he surprise proposed to her (for an as of yet undisclosed 'desperation' reason). Seeing as the MC was no longer available, she panicked (I guess?) and accepted the proposal instead. This decision is entirely on Keyla.

Even Zeke admits that it wasn't a great decision, due to his desperation. I'm curious to see what this was to force him to propose to someone he didn't seem to be fully into.

Was it all handled perfectly? Nah. But the blame on some of the decisions is on MC's just as much as Keyla.

When it comes time for Kim to leave, Kim asked Keyla not to tell the MC. Keyla obvious agrees to this, which she later admits was also related to her selfish reasons. So it was probably a bit of abiding by the promise she made as looking forward to Kim actually leaving.

 

[Quetzzz]

Was it all handled perfectly? Nah. But the blame on some of the decisions is on MC's just as much as Keyla.

Absolutely. They both made bad mistakes. Keyla agreeing to marry Zeke is just a pretty big one. The way she still pines after the MC makes me think she only agreed to the marriage to have a better chance at staying in the MC's life through Zeke... And to give the MC a constant reminder of how they used to go behind Zeke's back. I can understand desperation, but to keep this desperation up for years, that's something else. At the same time, she played it safe. She could've actually broken up with Zeke, done the right thing, instead of using him like she has. It's not like they got married the same day either.

From a narrative point of view, I don't want the MC to be with her because she wouldn't learn anything that way. Instead, it would validate that all of her decisions were right, since she got the prize. Her decisions are of someone who wants to have her cake and eat it too, who wants the easy option. Cheating on Zeke with the MC, marrying Zeke because the MC isn't available... Time after time she avoided making the difficult choice.

 

[Rexihexi]

I have to admit when I was starting to play this game I wasnt expecting it to be the way it is. Reminds me a lot of Summers Gone. Great intertwined story, great music. Visuals might be not on the same level and I have to admit that it aint a game same as SG for "having fun". Looking forward for the next chapter. Keep up the good work, Dev.

 

[Krytax123]

Absolutely. They both made bad mistakes. Keyla agreeing to marry Zeke is just a pretty big one. The way she still pines after the MC makes me think she only agreed to the marriage to have a better chance at staying in the MC's life through Zeke... And to give the MC a constant reminder of how they used to go behind Zeke's back. I can understand desperation, but to keep this desperation up for years, that's something else. At the same time, she played it safe. She could've actually broken up with Zeke, done the right thing, instead of using him like she has. It's not like they got married the same day either.

From a narrative point of view, I don't want the MC to be with her because she wouldn't learn anything that way. Instead, it would validate that all of her decisions were right, since she got the prize. Her decisions are of someone who wants to have her cake and eat it too, who wants the easy option. Cheating on Zeke with the MC, marrying Zeke because the MC isn't available... Time after time she avoided making the difficult choice.

You could argue that MC and Keyla deserve each other tho

 

[Quetzzz]

You could argue that MC and Keyla deserve each other tho

Maybe... What he did to Zeke wasn't great, and I'd categorize that under youthful mistakes. Certainly with him, as far as we know, having been loyal to Kim for years. If memory serves, he also took the initiative to break things off with Keyla.

 

[Krytax123]

Maybe... What he did to Zeke wasn't great, and I'd categorize that under youthful mistakes. Certainly with him, as far as we know, having been loyal to Kim for years. If memory serves, he also took the initiative to break things off with Keyla.

Dunno, i consider fucking your best friends fiance regularly behind his back, never coming clean about it and letting him marry the girl whos cheating on him all the time without mentioning anything preeeeeeettty bad

Its kinda willingly dooming Zeke to a shitty relationship no matter what due to a reason the mc created in the first place

Some may argue that Zeke maybe cheated too but in this case it would just have been one more reason to tell both of them to NOT MARRY if they are really supposed to be his friends lol

 

[Quetzzz]

Dunno, i consider fucking your best friends fiance regularly behind his back, never coming clean about it and letting him marry the girl whos cheating on him all the time without mentioning anything preeeeeeettty bad

While it doesn't excuse his abhorrent behavior, they weren't engaged at that point. Still, where the MC changed his behavior and (as far as we know) didn't cheat on anyone himself, I choose to see it as him learning from his mistakes.

Its kinda willingly dooming Zeke to a shitty relationship no matter what due to a reason the mc created in the first place

Zeke is his own person, who made his own choices and mistakes. Yeah, what Keyla and MC did was bad, but both him proposing marriage out of a fear of losing her, and Keyla accepting the proposal out of fear of being alone, play a much larger role in his current unhappiness.

Some may argue that Zeke maybe cheated too but in this case it would just have been one more reason to tell both of them to NOT MARRY if they are really supposed to be his friends lol

I don't remember if it's outright stated that Zeke had his own extracurricular activities. He does cheat on Keyla in the present, as a result of his dead bedroom/marriage.
Sure, Keyla shouldn't have accepted the proposal... But I'm guessing that in the MC's mind, he did the right thing by breaking things off with Keyla, and didn't see any value in hurting Zeke even more with the truth. Though, I do agree that from a certain perspective, the MC is a special kind of asshole who's able to sleep with his best friend's partner while keeping that friendship up.
I have no idea how this would feel in real life, but I imagine that the MC would have to be looking down on Zeke in some ways. Or maybe he's just into netori.

 

[cooldevo]

Zeke is his own person, who made his own choices and mistakes. Yeah, what Keyla and MC did was bad, but both him proposing marriage out of a fear of losing her, and Keyla accepting the proposal out of fear of being alone, play a much larger role in his current unhappiness.

I don't remember if it's outright stated that Zeke had his own extracurricular activities. He does cheat on Keyla in the present, as a result of his dead bedroom/marriage.
Sure, Keyla shouldn't have accepted the proposal... But I'm guessing that in the MC's mind, he did the right thing by breaking things off with Keyla, and didn't see any value in hurting Zeke even more with the truth. Though, I do agree that from a certain perspective, the MC is a special kind of asshole who's able to sleep with his best friend's partner while keeping that friendship up.

Zeke is indeed actively dating Miriam while still married to Keyla. If you are on Julia's path, it's put right out into the open in the story; which you don't see on any other path. Also on Julia's path, Miriam and Julia talk and Miriam airs some concerns she has that something is fishy with Zeke.... and it is.

So I don't understand the crosshairs and anger solely on Keyla. Keyla went into the marriage for suboptimal reasons. Zeke did solely for his "desperation reason", that I presume will also suboptimal. Keyla in the past cheated on Zeke. Zeke is currently cheating on Keyla. Both are hiding it from each other. It seems like a 50/50 split for the hate/anger between the two of them right now. Both made bad decisions equally on this one...

 

[cooldevo]

Its kinda willingly dooming Zeke to a shitty relationship no matter what due to a reason the mc created in the first place

Some may argue that Zeke maybe cheated too but in this case it would just have been one more reason to tell both of them to NOT MARRY if they are really supposed to be his friends lol

Zeke is cheating, on Keyla. There's no question about it, and no maybes. She cheated in the past, he's cheating now. That's an even wash. If dating Julia, you come across Zeke on a double date that is NOT Keyla and he essentially admits to cheating.

Neither Keyla nor Zeke cheating doomed the marriage. And both Zeke and Keyla admit that in the story... it was already doomed before it even started due to both having poor reasons to get married. They were not together out of love, they did not marry out of love, and they seem to have never really been in love. Again, both admit as much in conversations with the MC. That's why they are both so casual and nonchalant about it ending.

 

[Krytax123]

Zeke is cheating, on Keyla. There's no question about it, and no maybes. She cheated in the past, he's cheating now. That's an even wash. If dating Julia, you come across Zeke on a double date that is NOT Keyla and he essentially admits to cheating.

Neither Keyla nor Zeke cheating doomed the marriage. And both Zeke and Keyla admit that in the story... it was already doomed before it even started due to both having poor reasons to get married. They were not together out of love, they did not marry out of love, and they seem to have never really been in love. Again, both admit as much in conversations with the MC. That's why they are both so casual and nonchalant about it ending.

Im talking about their college days and wheter Zeke cheated at this time already. Zeke cheating nowadays doesnt really matter anymore anyway lol and the mc being judgemental about it is really really strange behavior considering that he fucked zeke's girlfriend regularly in the past lol.

Zeke cheating nowadays doesnt excuse the mcs behavior and even zeke cheating back than already wouldnt excuse it.

Nothing about this is okay, either he should have pressured keyla to come clean to zeke or should have come clean himself/together OR AT LEAST END THE FUCKING FRIENDSHIP

The mc behaved like a snake