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It's been a hot minute since I played, but the biggest issue I had were the "interactive" sex scenes. They were just boring as fuck, not hot, and the writing for it was kinda barebones. Essentially, the completely un-erotic sentence "You fuck her in the vagina with your penis until you cum" (or a similar variant for other sex acts), drawn out over several clicks.
This still the case, or is there actual meat to those sections yet?

I don't wanna be that guy ("it'd be so easy to add this!"), but it seems like (apart from the mountain of work to be done elsewhere in the game) it'd be just writing up some more titillating blurbs, and writing some variations of those same actions that get drawn from a pool (so repeats have a little more variety). I don't think it'd solve the "click the 'fuck' button repeatedly in 5s till the scene is over" problem, but it'd give some reason to slow down and engage with it a bit more.
I mean in a perfect world, I'd just take the entire system out and write something a bit more erotic to go in its place (the interactive sex scenes aren't really adding much), but in lieu of that some basic variety with the flavor text would go a long way in actually making me care about that part of the game.
 

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Hi!
I am quite a couple versions behind due to real life, still there are some things I have to comment on. I seriously do not really get why Raven and Griffin are this popular with the players, I loath them. Griffin less strongly since he was not fully included with what his sister cooked up, still he turns out to be a fullblown douche, but Raven is a bona fide sinkhole of humanity.
Abusing her powers massively just because she believes the MC to be a toxic male he is not. Ruining the life of a person just on a whim. And then not having regrets, even if you treat her better than she deserves, with Griffin taking advantage of the situation. I truly hope there will be a path we can get our revenge on those two.

I play towards two paths, one where the MC gets back to being male and the other where he more or less (Depending on the situation) grudingly accepts being female. One thing I hope is we can circumvent losing height throughout the game. It is such a cliche and I would prefer the MC keeping his height even as a girl.
Jessica is a gem of a girlfriend, she has her faults, but is a better person than most in the game. So for the MC on the female path I play two routes. One with Jess as girlfriend no matter what and the other Jess being my girlfriend where I allow her to be with guys since she is not a lesbian.
 

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Jessica is a gem of a girlfriend, she has her faults, but is a better person than most in the game. So for the MC on the female path I play two routes. One with Jess as girlfriend no matter what and the other Jess being my girlfriend where I allow her to be with guys since she is not a lesbian.
Honestly, she's one of my personal favorite parts about YTLG. In these kinds of games, the MC's gf would usually either leave the MC when they become too feminine, start cheating on the MC with a dominant masculine guy with a big dick that might be feminizing the MC, or be the feminizer herself. But Jessica is totally cool having a gf now, still likes dick but otherwise prioritizes the MC even when the two have an open relationship, stays friends with them if they do break up (which the MC has to instigate), had absolutely nothing to do with the spell turning them into a woman, and overall tries to be as supportive and helpful as she can to the MC's situation.

It's an oddly fresh take I want more of these games to try exploring.
 

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the game is super fun
was wondering if there is going to be a route where the mc submits to his ex the captian of the cheer leaders
like she bimbs the mc to the whole football team if the mc isn't in a relationship with anybody
or turn her into a bimbo
like the curse takes a the mind changing from just making the mc acts more of a girl than a man
to more of an airheaded bimbo than a normal female
 

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Abusing her powers massively just because she believes the MC to be a toxic male he is not. Ruining the life of a person just on a whim. And then not having regrets, even if you treat her better than she deserves, with Griffin taking advantage of the situation. I truly hope there will be a path we can get our revenge on those two.
There's a (planned, partially implemented iirc) path where you can ensure Raven's magic power is taken away from her due to misuse, which effectively ruins her life. So as far as revenge goes, you probably couldn't hurt her more. That said, Raven does show some regrets ultimately, even if it's pretty little and late.

But no, she doesn't hold a candle to Jessica, obv. :whistle::coffee:
 

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In that case, might I suggest adding in a threesome with Jessica and Raven/Griffin? And maybe make it an option to take both Jessica and Raven/Griffin to prom?
That scene is already in the game, where you have a foursome after the Winter Ball but I need to double check the logic to make sure that you end up with both of your partners in that scene. I'm also open to adding another threesome scene.
It's been a hot minute since I played, but the biggest issue I had were the "interactive" sex scenes. They were just boring as fuck, not hot, and the writing for it was kinda barebones. Essentially, the completely un-erotic sentence "You fuck her in the vagina with your penis until you cum" (or a similar variant for other sex acts), drawn out over several clicks.
This still the case, or is there actual meat to those sections yet?

I don't wanna be that guy ("it'd be so easy to add this!"), but it seems like (apart from the mountain of work to be done elsewhere in the game) it'd be just writing up some more titillating blurbs, and writing some variations of those same actions that get drawn from a pool (so repeats have a little more variety). I don't think it'd solve the "click the 'fuck' button repeatedly in 5s till the scene is over" problem, but it'd give some reason to slow down and engage with it a bit more.
I mean in a perfect world, I'd just take the entire system out and write something a bit more erotic to go in its place (the interactive sex scenes aren't really adding much), but in lieu of that some basic variety with the flavor text would go a long way in actually making me care about that part of the game.
That's fair. I don't remember why I wanted them to be interactive when I started working on this game but I don't think it's adding much at this point. I can replace them with narrated, non-interactive sex scenes but that will probably take a whole release.
Hi!
I am quite a couple versions behind due to real life, still there are some things I have to comment on. I seriously do not really get why Raven and Griffin are this popular with the players, I loath them. Griffin less strongly since he was not fully included with what his sister cooked up, still he turns out to be a fullblown douche, but Raven is a bona fide sinkhole of humanity.
Abusing her powers massively just because she believes the MC to be a toxic male he is not. Ruining the life of a person just on a whim. And then not having regrets, even if you treat her better than she deserves, with Griffin taking advantage of the situation. I truly hope there will be a path we can get our revenge on those two.

I play towards two paths, one where the MC gets back to being male and the other where he more or less (Depending on the situation) grudingly accepts being female. One thing I hope is we can circumvent losing height throughout the game. It is such a cliche and I would prefer the MC keeping his height even as a girl.
Jessica is a gem of a girlfriend, she has her faults, but is a better person than most in the game. So for the MC on the female path I play two routes. One with Jess as girlfriend no matter what and the other Jess being my girlfriend where I allow her to be with guys since she is not a lesbian.
Haha, if you read this thread you'll see that there are a lot of people who don't like Raven and Griffin! On TFGS, I've had no complaints though.

I think maybe the disconnect is that in this genre, the MC is expected to transform into a girl. I'm not sure how many of these games you've played but I think that when people expect it, the actual transformation is seen as more of a plot device than anything else.
 

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That's fair. I don't remember why I wanted them to be interactive when I started working on this game but I don't think it's adding much at this point. I can replace them with narrated, non-interactive sex scenes but that will probably take a whole release.
For what's worth, the interactivity gives player some control over their performance -- the MC can be either selfish and only care about their own satisfaction, or ensure their partner gets satisfied, too. There's even some small payoff in being able to synchronize things and have both cum at the same round/time.

Having it streamlined to a more narrated experience would be probably nice, but at the same time i'd seek to maintain this possibility for different outcomes, if it gets reworked.
 

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Haha, if you read this thread you'll see that there are a lot of people who don't like Raven and Griffin! On TFGS, I've had no complaints though.

I think maybe the disconnect is that in this genre, the MC is expected to transform into a girl. I'm not sure how many of these games you've played but I think that when people expect it, the actual transformation is seen as more of a plot device than anything else.
Hi again!
I have played quite a bit of games from the genre, from classics like X-Change, Max big bust to more current ones and I know that the transformations are often simply plot devices, still there are degrees of the how and why. And in our case Raven and Griffin are deeply on the as... side!
Raven destroys a life on a whim without any remorse. Even if you treat her far better than she deserves, there is nothing. I read that in the newest versions she shows some remorse, but too little too late.
 
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Hi!
I am quite a couple versions behind due to real life, still there are some things I have to comment on. I seriously do not really get why Raven and Griffin are this popular with the players, I loath them. Griffin less strongly since he was not fully included with what his sister cooked up, still he turns out to be a fullblown douche, but Raven is a bona fide sinkhole of humanity.
Abusing her powers massively just because she believes the MC to be a toxic male he is not. Ruining the life of a person just on a whim. And then not having regrets, even if you treat her better than she deserves, with Griffin taking advantage of the situation. I truly hope there will be a path we can get our revenge on those two.

I play towards two paths, one where the MC gets back to being male and the other where he more or less (Depending on the situation) grudingly accepts being female. One thing I hope is we can circumvent losing height throughout the game. It is such a cliche and I would prefer the MC keeping his height even as a girl.
Jessica is a gem of a girlfriend, she has her faults, but is a better person than most in the game. So for the MC on the female path I play two routes. One with Jess as girlfriend no matter what and the other Jess being my girlfriend where I allow her to be with guys since she is not a lesbian.
I'm sure getting revenge on Raven will be possible at some point.
 
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That's fair. I don't remember why I wanted them to be interactive when I started working on this game but I don't think it's adding much at this point. I can replace them with narrated, non-interactive sex scenes but that will probably take a whole release.
I think the system isn't bad per-se, but rather the way you interact with it, and the bare-bones nature of the descriptions makes it seem a lot like something added early to get it in there with the intent to flesh out later, but kinda never got fleshed out.
While I think narrated scenes might work well, you do lose a bit in that scenes become static.

I think, if I were to suggest something slightly more involved as a kind of "pie in the sky" type idea, maybe you have a system kinda like what's already there, but rather playing out each action "real time" like it is already (as in you press the action and it says a little blurb), you kind of queue up the actions you'd like to take, using your arousal as a kind of currency. Then when you hit submit, it kind of "generates" a scene, based on the order and actions you pick from a pool of pre-written "mini-scenes" for those acts.

So, as a very simple example, say you have 100 arousal to spend. Kissing is 25, Oral is another 25, and fucking costs 50.
And user queues up those three in that order, and submits it.
The next passage would be similar to what the blurbs are already, but they'd be more along the lines of a paragraph of the action that goes into a bit more detail. Maybe adding some dialogue or something to spice it up.
So it'd "generate" a scene with pre-written snippets in the order the user picks.
Then at the end, the other party might comment on things.
Ideally the system would work best when you have a few different variations for those paragraphs for the same action (so for kissing, you'd have like a few snippets like "Kissing A", "Kissing B", "Kissing C".

If you wanted to get a bit deeper, you could add checks for repeat actions and add different "tiers". So maybe if a user queues up kissing 3 times, it might start off as something mild, but for each repeat, in the generated scene you'd have some paragraphs that escalate things to a full-on makeout session. With the other party even reacting or commenting on it.
Or perhaps if you do things a bit "out of order", like jumping into fucking without foreplay, the other person mentions that as well.

I think it'd be a little bit of work, but I think it's really not much more than creating whole static scenes anyway. If one were to devote an entire update release on something like it.
You'd essentially just be taking each sex act, and creating an array of short paragraphs to pull from that describe those acts (maybe adding a few extras for those higher tier repeat actions), then just call them up in the order the user picked at the beginning.

I don't know if that was super confusing or not. It's really something simple that I typed out to seem really complicated (my bad). If you have any questions, just send me a message or something.
I think in practice it could be a nice system that's similar to what's there, but adds a bit of depth and stuff for you to play around with, and solves the problem of just mashing one action over and over to get the scene done, or god forbid, having the MC orgasm as soon as he gets his socks off.
 
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That's fair. I don't remember why I wanted them to be interactive when I started working on this game but I don't think it's adding much at this point. I can replace them with narrated, non-interactive sex scenes but that will probably take a whole release.
For what's worth, the interactivity gives player some control over their performance -- the MC can be either selfish and only care about their own satisfaction, or ensure their partner gets satisfied, too. There's even some small payoff in being able to synchronize things and have both cum at the same round/time.

Having it streamlined to a more narrated experience would be probably nice, but at the same time i'd seek to maintain this possibility for different outcomes, if it gets reworked.
I think the system isn't bad per-se, but rather the way you interact with it, and the bare-bones nature of the descriptions makes it seem a lot like something added early to get it in there with the intent to flesh out later, but kinda never got fleshed out.
While I think narrated scenes might work well, you do lose a bit in that scenes become static.

I think, if I were to suggest something slightly more involved as a kind of "pie in the sky" type idea, maybe you have a system kinda like what's already there, but rather playing out each action "real time" like it is already (as in you press the action and it says a little blurb), you kind of queue up the actions you'd like to take, using your arousal as a kind of currency. Then when you hit submit, it kind of "generates" a scene, based on the order and actions you pick from a pool of pre-written "mini-scenes" for those acts.

So, as a very simple example, say you have 100 arousal to spend. Kissing is 25, Oral is another 25, and fucking costs 50.
And user queues up those three in that order, and submits it.
The next passage would be similar to what the blurbs are already, but they'd be more along the lines of a paragraph of the action that goes into a bit more detail. Maybe adding some dialogue or something to spice it up.
So it'd "generate" a scene with pre-written snippets in the order the user picks.
Then at the end, the other party might comment on things.
Ideally the system would work best when you have a few different variations for those paragraphs for the same action (so for kissing, you'd have like a few snippets like "Kissing A", "Kissing B", "Kissing C".

If you wanted to get a bit deeper, you could add checks for repeat actions and add different "tiers". So maybe if a user queues up kissing 3 times, it might start off as something mild, but for each repeat, in the generated scene you'd have some paragraphs that escalate things to a full-on makeout session. With the other party even reacting or commenting on it.
Or perhaps if you do things a bit "out of order", like jumping into fucking without foreplay, the other person mentions that as well.

I think it'd be a little bit of work, but I think it's really not much more than creating whole static scenes anyway. If one were to devote an entire update release on something like it.
You'd essentially just be taking each sex act, and creating an array of short paragraphs to pull from that describe those acts (maybe adding a few extras for those higher tier repeat actions), then just call them up in the order the user picked at the beginning.

I don't know if that was super confusing or not. It's really something simple that I typed out to seem really complicated (my bad). If you have any questions, just send me a message or something.
I think in practice it could be a nice system that's similar to what's there, but adds a bit of depth and stuff for you to play around with, and solves the problem of just mashing one action over and over to get the scene done, or god forbid, having the MC orgasm as soon as he gets his socks off.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to massively complicate it, but as ffive points out, the current system does allow for some nuances game mechanics-wise, even if the actual interaction and narration aren't particularly exciting.

The only sex scene I remember seeing is the MC fucking Jessica with a strap-on, and there it does matter if they are able to hang on to some shred of their dignity and sexual confidence by satisfying them both, or whether one or the other is going to be left hanging.

The current arousal system leading to, as mentioned above, the MC sometimes being on the verge of orgasm before they get their socks off, can be frustrating though.
 
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Regarding my thoughts on the currect interactive sex system, I do enjoy the options that cause do cause different reactions such as hiding your penis from Jessica, which although doesn't change much does add some flavour to the minor choices you make.

That being said, I do think it comes with more negatives than positives. Firstly it makes all the scence more of a chore than engaging, rather than getting immersed into the scene you instead have to micoromanage all the stats to try to get what you want out of the event.

In addition, it leads to the scences becoming more bland since due to the amount of options, each choice is given very little detail. This then leads to every scene feeling pretty much the same, if you take the other exteme of having a complete non interactive scene, it would be able to show off how different characters act and get more of you partner's personality come though.

Obviously I know it would be alot of work to stripe it out and fill in the blanks, and its up to you what you do, but I do think it is a weakness of the game.

Regarding possilbe options, would be to reduce the options (so rather than undress each individual piece, it comes though stages, so if you undress at the start you may take off your shirt off, then stage two may be jeans, shoes and socks, and then stage 3 may be underwear (or maybe stage 1 is stripe to underwear and then 2/3 are bra/panties?)) it then just makes each choice matter more and makes the whole event less repetative.


I would also reccomend giving the player more choice in when it ends, it just would allow people to experience a scene without worrying that they would cross a threashold and miss things.

Its just my option though
 
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For what's worth, the interactivity gives player some control over their performance -- the MC can be either selfish and only care about their own satisfaction, or ensure their partner gets satisfied, too. There's even some small payoff in being able to synchronize things and have both cum at the same round/time.

Having it streamlined to a more narrated experience would be probably nice, but at the same time i'd seek to maintain this possibility for different outcomes, if it gets reworked.
That's a good point. I've tried to make the more recent sex scenes narrative-driven, but you're right that sacrifices some things. Giving the player control is a good thing. I'm just not sure if the sex scenes the way they work now are interesting though.
I'm sure getting revenge on Raven will be possible at some point.
Yes, it will!
I think the system isn't bad per-se, but rather the way you interact with it, and the bare-bones nature of the descriptions makes it seem a lot like something added early to get it in there with the intent to flesh out later, but kinda never got fleshed out.
While I think narrated scenes might work well, you do lose a bit in that scenes become static.

I think, if I were to suggest something slightly more involved as a kind of "pie in the sky" type idea, maybe you have a system kinda like what's already there, but rather playing out each action "real time" like it is already (as in you press the action and it says a little blurb), you kind of queue up the actions you'd like to take, using your arousal as a kind of currency. Then when you hit submit, it kind of "generates" a scene, based on the order and actions you pick from a pool of pre-written "mini-scenes" for those acts.

So, as a very simple example, say you have 100 arousal to spend. Kissing is 25, Oral is another 25, and fucking costs 50.
And user queues up those three in that order, and submits it.
The next passage would be similar to what the blurbs are already, but they'd be more along the lines of a paragraph of the action that goes into a bit more detail. Maybe adding some dialogue or something to spice it up.
So it'd "generate" a scene with pre-written snippets in the order the user picks.
Then at the end, the other party might comment on things.
Ideally the system would work best when you have a few different variations for those paragraphs for the same action (so for kissing, you'd have like a few snippets like "Kissing A", "Kissing B", "Kissing C".

If you wanted to get a bit deeper, you could add checks for repeat actions and add different "tiers". So maybe if a user queues up kissing 3 times, it might start off as something mild, but for each repeat, in the generated scene you'd have some paragraphs that escalate things to a full-on makeout session. With the other party even reacting or commenting on it.
Or perhaps if you do things a bit "out of order", like jumping into fucking without foreplay, the other person mentions that as well.

I think it'd be a little bit of work, but I think it's really not much more than creating whole static scenes anyway. If one were to devote an entire update release on something like it.
You'd essentially just be taking each sex act, and creating an array of short paragraphs to pull from that describe those acts (maybe adding a few extras for those higher tier repeat actions), then just call them up in the order the user picked at the beginning.

I don't know if that was super confusing or not. It's really something simple that I typed out to seem really complicated (my bad). If you have any questions, just send me a message or something.
I think in practice it could be a nice system that's similar to what's there, but adds a bit of depth and stuff for you to play around with, and solves the problem of just mashing one action over and over to get the scene done, or god forbid, having the MC orgasm as soon as he gets his socks off.
That's an interesting idea! I think I understand what you mean. You'd essentially be able to choose your own sex scene and get a narrative scene based on what you picked. I could see this being pretty buggy though lol.
Regarding my thoughts on the currect interactive sex system, I do enjoy the options that cause do cause different reactions such as hiding your penis from Jessica, which although doesn't change much does add some flavour to the minor choices you make.

That being said, I do think it comes with more negatives than positives. Firstly it makes all the scence more of a chore than engaging, rather than getting immersed into the scene you instead have to micoromanage all the stats to try to get what you want out of the event.

In addition, it leads to the scences becoming more bland since due to the amount of options, each choice is given very little detail. This then leads to every scene feeling pretty much the same, if you take the other exteme of having a complete non interactive scene, it would be able to show off how different characters act and get more of you partner's personality come though.

Obviously I know it would be alot of work to stripe it out and fill in the blanks, and its up to you what you do, but I do think it is a weakness of the game.

Regarding possilbe options, would be to reduce the options (so rather than undress each individual piece, it comes though stages, so if you undress at the start you may take off your shirt off, then stage two may be jeans, shoes and socks, and then stage 3 may be underwear (or maybe stage 1 is stripe to underwear and then 2/3 are bra/panties?)) it then just makes each choice matter more and makes the whole event less repetative.


I would also reccomend giving the player more choice in when it ends, it just would allow people to experience a scene without worrying that they would cross a threashold and miss things.

Its just my option though
I think that's a good analysis. An interactive sex scene has a lot of potential. But there's only so many ways to say "you take off his pants." And if the actions you can take all have similar descriptions associated with them, then it feels bland. For an interactive scene to work, the descriptions would need to be longer and they'd need to be different for each character and for each stage of how much you've transformed.

That's a lot of work and I'm not sure how long it would take but it would make the game better.

It would also probably be better to have all the sex scenes work the way they do once you get multiple orgasms. If you start with high arousal, you'll cum early and then have to get your partner off instead of the scene ending early
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1.7.1 is out for everyone and 1.8.0 is out on SubscribeStar and Patreon! The public update adds three new scenes where you hook up with multiple people and the Patreon update makes cheerleading and running for Winter Queen work on the trans path!



What's new in 1.8.0:
  • Added a storyline about you needing to stop Morgan from getting you kicked off the squad
  • You are now able to cheer in your first game on the trans path!
  • You are now able to get the votes of the cheerleaders, football players, nerds and witches on the trans path, and the game will recognize that you're on the trans path and not the reality change path
  • Fixed gamebreaking bug where the Winter Ball didn't happen if you were dating multiple people
  • Fixed bug where you went on a date with the wrong person
  • Continued putting game messages, hints and dev notes into little textboxes instead of having them all be ugly bold text
  • Fixed typos and continuity errors


What's new in 1.7.1:
  • Added a repeatable threesome scene with Jessica and Marco
  • Added a repeatable scene where you and Jessica go to the beach and hook up with guys
  • If you want to hook up with Griffin at the lake and he's already there with Morgan, you can now have a threesome with them instead of being unable to hook up with him at all
  • Fixed gamebreaking bug where you were stuck in the locker room if you wanted to work out after the reality change but didn't have yoga pants
  • Fixed gamebreaking bug where you couldn't go to class if you had small feet and the only womens shoes you owned were sandals
  • Fixed bug where you couldn't wear sandals if your feet hadn't transformed
  • Made cheerleading less confusing
  • Put my dev notes into a little textbox instead of having them all be ugly bold text
 

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Yes, it will!
  • Added a repeatable threesome scene with Jessica and Marco
  • Added a repeatable scene where you and Jessica go to the beach and hook up with guys
First, great that we will get the option to have some or full revenge on Raven and Griffin. Her behaviour, no regret for her fuckup, even when we treat her better than she deserves, is appalling. There has to come a bit or better a lot more regret from her that I would debate stopping revenge.
As for the quoted Jessica/MC events, this is also good development. Marco is a friend, unlike some other characters in the game. And the second scene is equally a good development, so you circumvent dating with the as... characters like Raven, Griffin and Co.
 
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Is there something specific you have to do for the Jessica threesome?
Or does anyone have a save at that point?
Edit: Nevermind I found it.
 
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