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Nezron

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Oh this despicable dev. Creating a game in his spare time and then he even dares to release it for free. Never have I seen such outright milking before!

Just so you know: Zargon "gets back" to Young Again the very moment he releases a chapter of it. Just because you don't see him working on it doesn't mean he doesn't. In fact, you could see him work on it if you were a patron and read his weekly reports.
I really like Young Again, and no I am not a Patron (so you are not milking me), and I appreciate that you put your game out for free (I really do). But if you are working on a 2nd game on your 'free' time. Then you are not working on Young Again, I read one of your Patron posts about how you didn't really know what you wanted to next in Young Again, so you would be working on the other game.

I am not trying to be an asshole here, and I do hope you are not like so many other devs that have no plan for a game and just winging it as you go.... that never ends well. Anyway I have said my piece on your game as it is now (other than you should make a way to bring back the other goddess that is a statue). I look forward to more Young Again.

I do wish you the best. And I respect the work you have done on Young Again (nice characters, MC is not a wimp, story, etc.)
peace
 

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I really like Young Again, and no I am not a Patron (so you are not milking me), and I appreciate that you put your game out for free (I really do). But if you are working on a 2nd game on your 'free' time. Then you are not working on Young Again, I read one of your Patron posts about how you didn't really know what you wanted to next in Young Again, so you would be working on the other game.

I am not trying to be an asshole here, and I do hope you are not like so many other devs that have no plan for a game and just winging it as you go.... that never ends well. Anyway I have said my piece on your game as it is now (other than you should make a way to bring back the other goddess that is a statue). I look forward to more Young Again.

I do wish you the best. And I respect the work you have done on Young Again (nice characters, MC is not a wimp, story, etc.)
peace
But reflexbound isnt dev of Young Again. Only Rovering to Sussex. Dev of Young again is Zargon
 

Yngling

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I really like Young Again, and no I am not a Patron (so you are not milking me), and I appreciate that you put your game out for free (I really do). But if you are working on a 2nd game on your 'free' time. Then you are not working on Young Again, I read one of your Patron posts about how you didn't really know what you wanted to next in Young Again, so you would be working on the other game.

I am not trying to be an asshole here, and I do hope you are not like so many other devs that have no plan for a game and just winging it as you go.... that never ends well. Anyway I have said my piece on your game as it is now (other than you should make a way to bring back the other goddess that is a statue). I look forward to more Young Again.

I do wish you the best. And I respect the work you have done on Young Again (nice characters, MC is not a wimp, story, etc.)
peace
You deserve some respect for presenting your argument well.

But in my opinion, everyone who does not support a game financially is a freeloader and therefore not really entitled to an opinion on a dev's business practices.

If someone does support a game financially AND the dev promises regular (e.g. monthly) updates but always misses the deadline, then MAYBE you have a right to complain. But even then, the Patreon / Subscribestar business model works on the premise that you give money so the dev can be creative. You are not buying anything, you are just enabling the dev to continue what he's doing. And if he's being lazy, or otherwise no longer worth your money, then you are free to cancel your support.

But again, in my opinion, this is a pirate forum. The dev, for whatever reason, chooses to interact with the community, but this does not give us any rights. However this lack of rights also kinda gives us the moral freedom to pirate his work. The dev has no obligation to us, and we don't have an obligation to him.
 

Impurity2937

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But in my opinion, everyone who does not support a game financially is a freeloader and therefore not really entitled to an opinion on a dev's business practices.

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But again, in my opinion, this is a pirate forum. The dev, for whatever reason, chooses to interact with the community, but this does not give us any rights. However this lack of rights also kinda gives us the moral freedom to pirate his work. The dev has no obligation to us, and we don't have an obligation to him.
Well, personally I do not care at all since I'm not any Patronite, I just pointed the issue discussed above.

But I do not agree with this often talking BS about some "rights" to do this or that. Paying or not, this is the place where you can share your thoughts and opinions and it does not matter if your are super platinum Patronite or 15yo kid who downloaded it for free as far as what you are saying is within frame of respectful discussion. Criticizing or discussing anything is allowed for everyone, not the only ones related, and valuable opinion of non-paying player is worth more than non-valuable opinion of paying player in case of discussion.

Well, it is an incest game. It's not a pick-your-own-adventure kind of game.
Well... Now I know but while playing first time and when game was giving me choices in favor of Ruby or against, I expected some changes at the end.
 
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Yngling

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But I do not agree with this often talking BS about some "rights" to do this or that. Paying or not, this is the place where you can share your thoughts and opinions and it does not matter if your are super platinum Patronite or 15yo kid who downloaded it for free as far as what you are saying is within frame of respectful discussion. Criticizing or discussing anything is allowed for everyone, not the only ones related, and valuable opinion of non-paying player is worth more than non-valuable opinion of paying player in case of discussion.
Perhaps but in any case it's pointless and (therefore) annoying. You might as well go outside and yell at your neighbours, it's just as annoying and just as likely to change anything.

In my opinion.

I'd much rather discuss the game. It's not in particular about this game, but I've seen a lot of discussions about milking this, scamming that, blablabla. When's the update??? It's just annoying.

I try to follow the game threads of some games that I like (this being one of them) and getting alerts about people complaining about a dev's business practices, justified or not, well, I'm getting tired of it.

Well... Now I know but while playing first time and when game was giving me choices in favor of Ruby or against, I expected some changes at the end.
Yeah, I can see that...

How do you feel about Anna? The MC's and Ruby's mom?
 

Zargon_games

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Well... Now I know but while playing first time and when game was giving me choices in favor of Ruby or against, I expected some changes at the end.

I've always been very honest about this: You can choose to do a lot of things with Ruby, or avoid doing any of them if you think it's going too far or if something isn't your kink, but regardless, the romantic relationship will always be ongoing throughout the whole game, she's the one girl you can't turn down.

Maybe I do it because I really like Ruby, or maybe I'm just a lazy dev, who knows. :ROFLMAO:
 

Impurity2937

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I try to follow the game threads of some games that I like (this being one of them) and getting alerts about people complaining about a dev's business practices, justified or not, well, I'm getting tired of it.
Yeah, got your point but still this is part of the game industry. People often complains or praise game devs for this or that, I wouldn't go so emotional here.

How do you feel about Anna? The MC's and Ruby's mom?
Tbh mom's stuff is not my kind of kink so I skipped that either. Not MILF and big boobs fan. I may just check how the story goes with Emma and Anna included tho.

I've always been very honest about this: You can choose to do a lot of things with Ruby, or avoid doing any of them if you think it's going too far or if something isn't your kink, but regardless, the romantic relationship will always be ongoing throughout the whole game, she's the one girl you can't turn down.

Maybe I do it because I really like Ruby, or maybe I'm just a lazy dev, who knows. :ROFLMAO:
Don't get me wrong, Ruby is great. Not as great as Jaye from CS of course;) but still one of my favorites in VNs.

I never ever read any of posts here, just downloaded game, played, made comment with my thoughts. The relationship progress was just very rush to me, like lack of some MC's personal thoughts about falling in love or something like that. Theirs interactions were mostly sexual that's why all of sudden "love and live forever" was quite unexpected. Also I think that at some point you forgot about the plot and that MC is in fact 40+(?) years old minded guy and for sure getting younger body made him feel younger (in mind) too but sometimes he just acts... according to his body age. To much complements and being too nice also is very conspicuous, he suck up to everyone, often apologizes for everything everyone...

Well, as I said, just my opinion and looking forward for next episodes.

ps. Also Anna's reaction is very real when she is told about MC and Ruby which is great but in contrary they act like living in the bubble, at some point even mentioning something about kids? I mean they should at least say it loud that their kid can be retarded.
 
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All this talk about Ruby or Emma or Anna when you're all forgetting the best girl... Natalie!

Alright, now that you've all had a good laugh, I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised that she can be romanced in season 2. And yes, I am a Natalie fan. Sure, she might not win any beauty contests in the future but she's not that bad looking either.

Seems that the requirement to continue anything with her is to not be in a relationship with Emma, which to me is a fair trade. Always been more interested in good looking MILF's and GILF' (and blue colored goddesses).
 

HunterSeeker

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This was pretty fun. The only thing that didn't make sense to me was that in the beginning of the game, they say Emma had a huge crush on the MC... But the MC was super mean and horrible to Emma; hard to believe she had a crush on a guy like that.
 

Zargon_games

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This was pretty fun. The only thing that didn't make sense to me was that in the beginning of the game, they say Emma had a huge crush on the MC... But the MC was super mean and horrible to Emma; hard to believe she had a crush on a guy like that.
There are probably a lot of nonsense in the game, but the point you mention is more common than you think, it happens a lot (especially at Emma's age).
 

kz7419

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I've come to this late in the day and it's a lot of fun. There are a lot of reviews on the money already so I won't add to them. But having reached the hotel with Emma, all I'd say is, uh, vagina. Really? Can't we get a bit more sexy than that? And at the same time, Emma wants to call MC Daddy before he's even slipped her a length. I mean, all in good time, maybe we could get beyond vagina first. It's not like pussy is the most degrading word out there. I get that she's awkward but that's no reason to make the dialogue so functional.
 
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I've come to this late in the day and it's a lot of fun. There are a lot of reviews on the money already so I won't add to them. But having reached the hotel with Emma, all I'd say is, uh, vagina. Really? Can't we get a bit more sexy than that? And at the same time, Emma wants to call MC Daddy before he's even slipped her a length. I mean, all in good time, maybe we could get beyond vagina first. It's not like pussy is the most degrading word out there. I get that she's awkward but that's no reason to make the dialogue so functional.
She's probably the daugher of Sheldon Cooper with some of Amy's latent "ravish me" thoughts so she's internally conflicted.. On one hand, she wants to be concussed against the headboard of a dirty motel, but on the other hand, coitus does require an engorged turgid penis to be rapidly oscilating inside her lubricated vaginal orifice until sufficient neural stimulation builds up and an orgasm is achieved.
 

kz7419

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And at the same time, Emma wants to call MC Daddy before he's even slipped her a length. I mean, all in good time, maybe we could get beyond vagina first.
I'm overthinking this but it could be such a kinky set-up. After all, she really is MC's daughter. So it would make sense if she called him Daddy. But there's no sign in the internal monologue that this would appeal to the MC. Does he not realise he's the MC of an incest p*rn game and he's about to screw his own daughter?
 

gam2000

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I'm overthinking this but it could be such a kinky set-up. After all, she really is MC's daughter. So it would make sense if she called him Daddy. But there's no sign in the internal monologue that this would appeal to the MC. Does he not realise he's the MC of an incest p*rn game and he's about to screw his own daughter?
Of course he does. He knows who he was and is...
 
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