Traptism

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At this point I'm thinking that people who always come to complain about games not to their taste just gets off on complaining.

Anyway, played it back when it was released and it's solid, though his other game was a bit better imo, but still not bad at all.
Complaining is their fetish just like ntr is a fetish.

Complaining fetish<NTR fetish.
 

Federok88

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Anyway, by default, 'Netorare enjoyers' are presumed to specifically insert as cucked protagonist because that's the PoV (which most at least consider annoying) and that's indeed what most do. I'm not denying that one can enjoy such works differently, as voyeur, to see such a train wreck happen but that's a minority
There are three problems with your assumption:

1) if you want to make that claim you would need data (surveys or something like that) otherwise you're basing things around your feelings.

2) there are plenty of ntr wich are from the pov of the fmc: accerola games, RaiOhGar: Asuka, Fox girls never play dirty (and other ADVANTGARDE games) or the Curse of Kubel are the first that come to mind.

3) If that were true then netorase, where the protagonist actively enjoys or willingly agrees to the cuckoldry, would outrank netorare in supply and demand. I say this because often netorares can end without knowing about the ""cheating"" or reacting with sadness and pain not arousal unlike in netorase, hell in some of them cuckholded never shows its face.
Thats without counting the plantonics relationships in netorares that have non-incestous brother-sister or son-mother dinamics where a bully steals their attention awau from the relative. There too much of a focuss on suffering in netorare, wich would appeal to a sadistic enjoyment, to discard it as a minority withouth more information.

Ultimately this things could be answered by discussing the topic of ntr but from my experience that rarely happens. People who dont like ntr often have a hate bonner that compels them to insult ntr works and their consumers and no discussion can be happen under such hostility
 
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Harem Trooper

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Harem tag needs to be removed:
-> Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
But also this has nothing to do with Harem. Just the typical set up for MC being cucked, thats all.
 
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Zurvana

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is this only netorare or does it have any netorase?
When I played there was no netorase until the event when the MC Was being mind control later in the game but its like 2 scenes I think. it is possible to avoid being NTR I think forgot played this game so long ago using a machine translator. But of course the scenes will be lackluster.
 

Zurvana

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Harem tag needs to be removed:
-> Harem [1 person being courted by at least 3 others, all engaging in consensual sex simultaneously.]
But also this has nothing to do with Harem. Just the typical set up for MC being cucked, thats all.
It is a harem just not a lot of scenes for the MC and I think its possible to get an ending with out both girls being stolen been awhile since I played this though
 

Yotsuyu

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wow, groundbreaking plot right here. I feel like when devs decide to make NTR they become cursed with some pain if they ever try and make it unique, because there's so little of stepping out of line in the genre
I mean, it's no different than any other porn genre. Vanilla harem in most cases are carbon copies of each other. Fact of the matter is the more unique gems, no matter the genre, are just that and they shine all the more for it.

At this point I'm thinking that people who always come to complain about games not to their taste just gets off on complaining.

Anyway, played it back when it was released and it's solid, though his other game was a bit better imo, but still not bad at all.
Yeah, think I'd have to agree. While his previous one didn't have as much, iirc at least you didn't have to watch almost every scene in the gallery room/menu. Really annoys me when they're designed in that way. Not that I disliked this game or anything. It was alright for what it was and the hypnosis/corruption was decent for the most part.
 

shiion1

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Yet again another NTR game thread is going to be plagued by the eternal debate of NTR haters vs People who dont care about a Tag :FacePalm:

Can anyone say how the translation is? Its complete? Havent played it just yet. In any case, I appreciate the TL project..

Oh, and about the whole mind control thing.. its only Mind Control NTR? Does it have scenes without it? To me, mind control feels really cheap so I dont dig it
 

Kulman

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Yet again another NTR game thread is going to be plagued by the eternal debate of NTR haters vs People who dont care about a Tag :FacePalm:

Can anyone say how the translation is? Its complete? Havent played it just yet. In any case, I appreciate the TL project..

Oh, and about the whole mind control thing.. its only Mind Control NTR? Does it have scenes without it? To me, mind control feels really cheap so I dont dig it
I did not finish the game but played it when it came out.

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Harem Trooper

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It is a harem just not a lot of scenes for the MC and I think its possible to get an ending with out both girls being stolen been awhile since I played this though
Sounds more like this game has some slight Harem elemnts, but does that even count as a Harem then ? This all is is done so the "betrayel" hence the title itself lol, feels more impactful since the focus is NTR.

Even on this site you need at least have 3 girls falling for MC. Thats the bare minimum for this tag to been even applied to. Im not even going to debate the whole cucking stuff has no place in a harem in the first place. But the tag is removed so its all fine.
 

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fgh24

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yeah but the game is called balancing love and betrayal would be nice to have a route where you can protect them
 
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JorgeFFC

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Passing by to leave this full save made on this translation.
Story is just the usual cuckoldry by other guy in the party mixing lewd crest and hypnosis. The guy get both girls ending is possible if u lower their love to protag enough before diving the last part of the game arc, and if u don't ask for him to leave. U can still get a good kinda of ending if u can keep both love high enough and ask them to kick the guy out of the party before the clear or something, but not fun on NTR, gotta watch the crap mc being rekt up and losing everything as usual...

Within the entire game, there were just 2 spots that character name was still in JPN btw... forgot when, outside of those 2, it's pretty good translation.
 
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