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If you posted that in straight vanilla threads, you'd probably get a lot of heat. Maybe anything other than beast/monster is vanilla for you? Not judging just trying to understand.
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patreon basically bans anything that isnt human male (no race fetish allowed) penetrating a consenting human female. you might get away with some weird content for a while but they'll get you if you're big enough
Completely irrelevant. His main site is subscribestar. Patreon is barely mentioned anywhere.
Again, this has nothing to do with patreon because his main site is subscribestar. Man's got actually really impressive number of people as everyone there has to pay with a credit card and forsake the convenience of paypal.
You're also double wrong. People are actually voting for monsters the most. Every. Single. Time. Well, almost. This month monster was beaten by instantloss and magic but ended up still having werewolf there in form of a boggart.
On top of that, votes are combined. Frankly it's a really strange system because even if every person on patreon votes, subscribestar can technically outvote them because there's more people there.
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regardless he has a shitload of subs on patreon that will be gone once he gets nuked.
True but if patreon was an issue, he would've stopped making risky animations ages ago.
By the way, I think you have a really different perspective on what zmsfm does. Things he does are mostly things he's fine with doing. Makes those feet focused things because he gets praise off it as people like it.
Makes monsters because majority of people following him like the monsters.
If he was to do whatever he likes to do, i'd guess he'd make more of exhibition and solo animations. Not monsters or beast stuff. Regardless of that, he still has clear passion for his work.
He's a variety creator. Has been for long time. Combined with his "people pleaser" nature. If he does lot of different things, lot of different people may like what he does. Zmsfm is inhumanely consistent in terms of delivery but extremely inconsistent in terms of character universes. I think best place to ask would be on discord.
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No, he didnt want to do any beast stuff anymore out of his own account. he felt uncomfortable having to ask VAs do voice beast stuff for him and just of himself as not wanting to do that anymore. weird decision considering he followed it up with futa stuff and such likes. unfortunate considering I was his patreon mainly for his spicy content.
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if only you knew what % of women are into beast/monster shit. I REALLY doubt it was his fanbase forcing him away from it.
thats exactly what I said. everyone was upset about. he was like, "nah sorry guys I dont want to do that anymore".
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God, there are so many versions of the Ashe and mercy animation, but there is no version with white men.
Everyone is a strong word though. More like sad? It's understandable. Actual high quality beast animations are a rarity. To lose one animator doing it is a huge hit. Even worse; one that has actual different versions of the animation.
He did give people option to get one last animation with animals. Most people out of respect voted for him to just be done with it.
At some point I guess you look at what you do and decide that it's for the best to stop. Otherwise it's just forced work which never ends well for animators. Over years so many people have either quit or gotten extremely lazy.
I wish he would just focus on his ideas instead of listening to the polls. it got so bad that he had to ban characters and settings for two month because they were voted over and over again. its always bad for animators to listen to their supporters. it destroyed the entire content of Darktronick back in the day. animators who outright dont interact much with their supporters at all like noname55 have way better content.
Only single anim is influenced by polls. Rest is just things he wants to animate. Although influenced by what his fans seem to like too.
I personally think the 2 month ban for characters and universes is fair. I hated when Jaina kept winning the polls over and over and over and over. It was the peak of complete boredom to have one character win every month.
On topic of noname55. Every animation he does is mostly suggested by people in his patreon/substar comments. I know this as I have participated in his animation suggestions too.
With Zmsfm on the other hand, it doesnt seem like they're suggested ideas but rather his own. Minus the polls but even polls don't specifically let people choose what it's supposed to be in the end (as in if it's a titjob, vaginal, anal etc).
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Don't think it's irrelevant. As much as I and certainly he prefers SS.A the reach of P can hardly be ignored. And they yet again tightened the screws not long ago.
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Anything Mainstream acceptable is Vanilla to me. And Futa has long since become mainstream.
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I mean, the men are Lucio and Baptiste. It'd be pretty weird looking if he made them white. Similar to how there is not a black variant for Cassidy in the Symmetra animation.
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Wait.......there is men in Overwatch ?!?!?!
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And? They make heterosexual porn with Tracer. Is it difficult to change the skin color of men?