VN Ren'Py Sins of the Father [v0.8.1] [Kaffekop]

[Anus Mundi]

It's really great that SotF is back!

The last time i played it was in 10/2021, so i started a fresh game. What has me worried is the prowess system:

You do get more prowess the more women you bang, but not every woman is an "easy" lay.
Sheniqua and Imani require a relatively high prowess to get to bang them both.
On the other hand, if you have a lower prowess than the required one for banging both girls, you end up sending Sheniqua to the hospital, meet the doctor and get to heal her.

Roughly one third of the sex scenes you can gather prowess (almost all Marsha scenes, both Eveline scenes, both Samantha scenes, one Jo scene, one Jo/Nat scene). The other two thirds you can't. Why's that?

Edit:
Posibly noticed a small bug in scene movienight_02:

label movienight_02:

   [...]

    scene bg v06_342 with fade
    p sidesmile "Don’t know.\nWas preoccupied."
    jo flirt "Hehe, I guess you were.\nWant to hit the sack?"
    p smile "I think we need to give mom a few minutes before we hit the sack as well."
    jo normal "Hmm, okay."
    p_think normal "We gave mom ten minutes before we went to bed ourselves."

    $ iLust( "Mom", +5)
    $ iLust( "Mom", +5) # Jo?
    $ Energy = iEnergy(5)

    jump mackroom_01

Mom gets points twice.

Edit 2:

Btw.: Will we, at some point, be able to heal Jessica with our abilities?

Edit 3:

Just had a strange experience:
When i tried to unlock Marys door i failed though i have the necessary 20 Energy displayed. A look at the actual value (console) showed only 17 Energy.

Saves attached

 

[shawnnation]

incest patch needed?and is there sex with the mom?

 

[juice2000]

incest patch needed?and is there sex with the mom?

no and no but oh so close. Likely to be the next update how ever long that may take.

 

[johnelros]

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Sorry for the late upload but I was so focused on the release of 0.8 that I completely forgot.

Cheers - Kaffekop

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Sorry for the late upload but I was so focused on the release of 0.8 that I completely forgot.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[Maethir]

I quite agree, but doing a full rework of older releases was beyond the scope of this update. My render box has evolved quite a lot from then. Also my understanding of DAZ of course.
I intend to do some rework of earlier versions while going forward. Until that is completed there will be changes to the graphic look from time to time as older images are replaced and new images probably added as well.
Main focus will be moving the project forward.

Image quality is a tricky one to address because it comes down to available time. Not only for setting them up but also for rendering them.
V. 0.8 has around 1100 images at 5 minutes of rendering which pops out at around 90 hours of pure render time. Admittedly I typically let the box render when I sleep, so I'm not really affected by that part of the equation other than the prize of electricity of course, but that's regardless.
When I started out on this journey I think one image took me between 30 - 60 minutes of rendering.

Anyway, this was not to berate or belittle your opinion, which I find valid. Just me rambling a bit about past struggles.

Cheers - Kaffekop

I feel one of the best "rework/remasters" i have seen was Shut up and Dance. There was a clear quality increase from the old to the new but he did not stop production new content to rework the old but instead alternated the releases, doing a rework of one chapter one update then next content the next and just alternating untill all the old versions were in line with the new graphics

 

[Anus Mundi]

Just had a strange experience:
When i tried to unlock Marys door i failed though i have the necessary 20 Energy displayed. A look at the actual value (console) showed only 17 Energy.

Ok, the game somehow adds energy and prowess and displays the sum as energy (several saves checked).

My guess would be that it's this part of the "script.rpy":

    def iEnergy( notever ):
        t = Energy + (notever + Prowess)
        if Prowess < 1:
            t = Energy + notever
        if t < 0: return 0
        #  No need for the "else" here. If it's negative you already quit the function
        # with the "return" above.
        return t

Edit:

Found a small bug during Breakfast10:

label BreakFast10WorkFalseNoJo:

    scene bg v07_0027 with fade
    p_think normal "Oh, mom is up." # has to be deleted
    p smile "Morning, mom.\nYou’re up early." # has to be deleted

    scene bg v07_0029 with fade # has to be deleted
    mom smile "Oh … morning, hon." # has to be deleted
    mom frown "Yeah … I have a terrible headache." # has to be deleted
    mom frown "I think I had too much wine yesterday." # has to be deleted
    p curious "Really?" # has to be deleted
    mom frown "I don’t know, sweetie." # has to be deleted
    mom frown "Maybe I’m getting too old to drink alcohol." # has to be deleted
    p smile "Nonsense, mom.\nYou’re not old!" # has to be deleted

    scene bg v07_0031 with fade # has to be deleted
    mom smile "Oh, thank you sweetie." # has to be deleted
    p_think normal "We quickly shared a hug and she began her search for painkillers." # has to be deleted

    scene bg v07_0032 with fade
    mom normal "Was it a good movie?" # has to be deleted
    p curious "What?" # has to be deleted
    mom frown "Didn’t you and Jo watch a movie last night?" # has to be deleted
    p normal "Oh, no Jo went to bed right after you."
    p normal "Turned out that she was tired as well."
    mom normal "Oh, what did you do then?"
    p normal "I tried to watch a movie on my own, but I fell asleep while watching it."
    mom smile "That doesn't sound like you!"
    mom smile "Let me make you some pancakes."

    scene bg v07_0036 with fade
    p_think normal "While she made pancakes, we indulged in small talk about the day before."
    mom smile "Your boss sure is a sweet lady."
    p smile "Indeed, she is."
    mom smile "And it was so nice of her to invite us on to her boat."
    p_think normal "I nodded."
    mom smile "And it looked to me as if Gloria and your sisters hit it off as well."
    mom flirt "I think she likes you, [p]."
    p curious "You think so?"

    scene bg v07_0044 with fade
    mom smile "Oh, yes."
    mom smile "The way she kept looking at you and the way she tried to get you to invite her out."
    mom smile "Classic signs of a girl liking someone, who may be a little shy about such things."
    p curious "Shy?\nMe?"
    mom frown "Well … you used to be shy, but … not so much anymore."
    mom flirt "Do you like her?"
    p curious "I guess she is nice but I don’t really know her that well."
    mom frown "Hmm …"
    p curious "Is something wrong, mom?"
    mom normal "No!"
    mom frown "It’s just … you’ve suddenly become such a confident you man."
    mom normal "So, I’m a bit surprised you didn’t invite her out."
    mom smile "I mean, it was what she wanted you to do."
    p curious "You really think so?"
    mom flirt "Oh, yeah!\nLike I said … she likes you."

    scene bg v07_0046 with fade
    mom normal "There you go, [p]."
    mom normal "Enjoy, and I’ll just go lie down again."
    p smile "Thanks, mom."
    p normal "By the way … I need the car so I can get to work."
    p curious "Is that okay?"
    mom smile "Of course, you can, [p]."

    scene bg v07_0048 with fade
    p_think normal "I ate my pancakes in peace and left for work when I was done."

    jump LawyerKathryn

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Interesting.

 

[Anus Mundi]

I got an error at this scene (apparently nobody ever pursued none of the family ):

(mc.rpy, line9290: $ Energy = iEnergy()-10 => $ Energy = iEnergy(-10))

label FamilyGamesNoMomNoJoNoNatWitchCraftMarsha:#wakeup_1

    if _in_replay:
        $ playername = persistent.pname

    scene bg v07_0718 with fade
    p_think normal "I stood up in the hopes that she would take the hint and leave."
    m smile "You know, I lingered because I was hoping to get some attention from you."
    p sidesmile "Really?"
    m smile "Yes, dear."
    m smile "You always leave me so relaxed, so I was hoping for a goodnight fuck."
    m flirt "Don’t tell me that you’re not up for that?"

    scene bg v07_0721 with fade
    p_think sidesmile "I found it hard to refuse her when she slid to her knees and pulled my briefs down."
    p_think sidesmile "The Big Guy was ready to please … whether I was on board with it or not."
    m smile "It really doesn’t have to be a fuck-a-thon … a quickie will do just fine to relax me."
    p_think sidesmile "I chuckled and pulled her up."
    p_think normal "She didn’t struggle against me when I pushed her over the chair."

    scene bg v07_0722 with fade
    m flirt "No need to test if I’m ready for you, [p]."
    m smile "I’ve been horny all evening and just waiting to drop your mother off!"

    scene bg v07_0723 with fade
    p sidesmile "You’re so bad, Marsha!"

    scene bg v07_0724 with fade
    p_think sidesmile "Well, with no preparations to perform I entered her to her distinct cry of pleasure."
    p curious "Not so loud, Marsha.\nYou’re going to wake up the whole house!"
    m smile "Sorry, but … I think I’ve said this before: This feels fucking wonderful!"
    p_think sidesmile "Of course, I couldn’t make her stop voicing her joy and pleasure of me fucking her."
    p_think smile "But I had to give her credit for trying not to be too noisy."

    scene bg v07_0726 with fade
    p_think normal "There was no finesse or any holding back on my part."
    p_think normal "She had stated what she wanted and that was what she was getting."
    p_think normal "We found a quick rhythm that made hard slapping sounds from when our bodies met, skit around the room."
    p_think sidesmile "I enjoyed watching her butt wobble with each deep thrust into her trembling pussy."

    scene bg v07_0725 with fade
    m flirt "Yes, [p].\nFuck me! Harder … harder!"
    p_think naughty "And I did."
    p_think sidesmile "Her muffled cries and moans mingled with the noise of our mutual pleasure."
    p_think normal "I could feel her approaching the precipice and getting ready for the jump."

    scene bg v07_0728 with fade
    p_think naughty "Picking up the pace for a final onslaught I too found myself standing there next to her."
    p_think sidesmile "I was getting good at reaching the point of no return at the same time as she did."

    scene bg v07_0729 with fade
    m happy "HHHhhhuuuuunnnnnnggggllrrree …"

    $ Energy = iEnergy(+5)
    $ iLust("Marsha", +5)

    p_think normal "As she screamed her pleasure into her hand, her body began to shake."
    p_think normal "I drove hard into her one last time before I also made the leap."

    scene bg v07_0727 with fade
    p_think naughty "I spurted again and again inside her warm wet pussy and as I pulled out, she began to leak."

    $ Energy = iEnergy()-10 # => $ Energy = iEnergy(-10)

    scene bg v07_0730 with fade
    m happy "Thank you, [p].\nI needed that!"

    scene bg v07_0731 with fade
    m happy "Now I can get a full night’s rest."

    scene bg v07_0732 with fade
    p_think sidesmile "I could see my pleasure oozing down her thigh as she left the house on wobbly legs."
    p_think normal "As I locked the door she turned and blew me a kiss with an almost dreamy look on her face."

    scene bg v07_0955 with fade
    p_think normal "I quickly returned to my room and slipped in behind Jo, who was still sleeping."
    p_think normal "Sleep claimed me quickly after that."

    $ renpy.end_replay()

    jump WakeUp16_1

 

[Hadgar]

I tried giving Mary a graphical update from an older model to a newer model (from gen3 to gen8)
Here is a quick comparison between the two.
They look somewhat different, but I haven't been able to match the tan exactly and there are more polygons in a gen8 model.
Also the hair is not designed for a gen8 model.
What do you think? Something I should continue with the other characters?
All in all I like the newer model ...
I am not saying that I will absolutely change Mary to the newer model, I'm just curious as to what you guys think.

View attachment 3337263 View attachment 3337264

Cheers - Kaffekop

Don't touch Mary's model and no one will get hurt. (We love her the way she is)

 

[NyVar]

im a bit confused. im on a path for all, and suddenly at the end of the update Nat said she had a date? and MC just shrugged it off as "whatever"

 

[Anus Mundi]

In scene "HospitalDylan" (jennifer.rpy) MC's inner dialogue indicates that he used his powers to punish Dylan even when he chose to let it slide.

Btw.:
What does "Alignment" mean?

Oh, and the scene "WorkOnWeblockTwins" is still not accessible because you need NatHelp and JoHelp at the same time:

label WorkOnWeblock: #only possible with NatHelp because otherwise you're lacking NatTrust


    [...]

    if MarshaFucked >= 3 and TwinShare >= 1: # only possible with JoHelp
        jump WorkOnWeblockTwins

    if MarshaFucked >= 3 and MomCest == True:
        jump WorkOnWeblockMom

    jump MomNatPool

 

[Kaffekop]

In scene "HospitalDylan" (jennifer.rpy) MC's inner dialogue indicates that he used his powers to punish Dylan even when he chose to let it slide.

Btw.:
What does "Alignment" mean?

Oh, and the scene "WorkOnWeblockTwins" is still not accessible because you need NatHelp and JoHelp at the same time:

label WorkOnWeblock: #only possible with NatHelp because otherwise you're lacking NatTrust


    [...]

    if MarshaFucked >= 3 and TwinShare >= 1: # only possible with JoHelp
        jump WorkOnWeblockTwins

    if MarshaFucked >= 3 and MomCest == True:
        jump WorkOnWeblockMom

    jump MomNatPool

Thanks a bunch for taking the time to catch all those errors.
I'll try and have a hotfix out later this week.
Once again, thank you so much.

Alignment is an idea to control choices based on what you use your "powers" for and thus lead the mc down three different ending path.
I.e.: You choose to do do "good" with your powers and you will be seeing more "good" choices down the line and less "bed" choices (like killing people and so forth).
That's the idea at least. I hope I will be able to implement it in a meaningful way, so always keep in mind that this is very much still a work in progress.

Cheers- Kaffekop

 

[Kaffekop]

im a bit confused. im on a path for all, and suddenly at the end of the update Nat said she had a date? and MC just shrugged it off as "whatever"

Yeah, that is definitely and error.
Thanks for catching that.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[Hadgar]

Kaffekop I also have a question. As far as I understand now, Mary’s asshole father dies anyway. Does this increase our chances of getting the "MC+Mary+Mary Sister" ending?

 

[Kaffekop]

Kaffekop I also have a question. As far as I understand now, Mary’s asshole father dies anyway. Does this increase our chances of getting the "MC+Mary+Mary Sister" ending?

Yeah, I had to rein in that particular path as it would split the story way too much down the line.
Now Mary's sister and her daughter are an integral part of the family story and not something that you can opt out of, as it was originally planned.
You can opt out of pursuing them of course but not the part of getting the family back together.

Cheers - Kaffekop

 

[Hadgar]

Yeah, I had to rein in that particular path as it would split the story way too much down the line.
Now Mary's sister and her daughter are an integral part of the family story and not something that you can opt out of, as it was originally planned.
You can opt out of pursuing them of course but not the part of getting the family back together.

Cheers - Kaffekop

Thank you!

 

[Anus Mundi]

Alignment is an idea to control choices based on what you use your "powers" for and thus lead the mc down three different ending path.
I.e.: You choose to do do "good" with your powers and you will be seeing more "good" choices down the line and less "bed" choices (like killing people and so forth).
That's the idea at least. I hope I will be able to implement it in a meaningful way, so always keep in mind that this is very much still a work in progress.

Ok, that's, what i assumed.

One question, tho:
Is it by design, that you're forced to kill Mary's father when you got "NatHelp", "MomCest" and "MarshaFucked >= 3"? Because meeting these conditions leads to the "ContemplatingMomTalk" scene where you kill Mary's father if your focus is >= 1 (not avoidable).

 

[moondrake]

I need an actual walkthrough or mod for this game.

 

[divingmedic]

I need an actual walkthrough or mod for this game.

First page of this thread. Don't think it's up to date on the current version of the game.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

I need an actual walkthrough or mod for this game.

There are 3 paths, pick which one you want.

Spoiler: Starting point from the mini-guide

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