Vakkyr

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To your second point, you mean as in the ability to personalize and/or segment the nickname system based on their current environments? I.e., if Shani and the MC are exploring a Zone or out on Stalker-related work, they would have a more professional naming convention/nickname in place whereas if they are at home and/or doing non-related Stalker work, then their nicknames would be more affectionate and/or amicable in nature.. to reflect their immediate environments and/or current task at hand

If so, that would be interesting to see, but maybe more difficult to code in I presume because the game would have to factor in the environment they are in and know when to set the proper nicknaming alias based on the defined scripted event in question....:unsure:
Basically yes. The hardest probably is to do this retroactively, right from the beginning it's much easier.

Like, there is already a Nickname System in place and so are the variables/flags to input the chosen Nickname. The difficult thing is probably to make it differentiate between Shani and Ain, and any other future Character using a (customizable) Nickname for MC. It's doable I think, but with the length of the AVN it's a ton of (extra) Work. Especially if you want to expand the System to also make a difference in what Situation the Interaction is happening.

Would it be not customizable it would be much easier as it would be just a writing thing. Like for Ain it's just always "Daddy", for Shani in the beginning "Dad" or "Father" when she's with him in Official Business affairs. Later on "Daddy" like Ain does but only in intimate/Sexual Situations like at Home after her Initiation or when they are with the Princess in the Bath etc.
 

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Not gonna lie, didn't think I would like the Game as much as I di in the End. Really good Character writing in my opinion. Only, small, thing I would have loved to see are different ways to address the MC for Ain and Shani. Would be the "icing on the cake" Atmosphere wise for me.
no idea what you mean by "icing on the cake" that much. English not being my language but I know approx. what the expression means, maybe not fully. You have the feeling Shani or Ain are not already giving enough for the mc? Missing something? I can understand about Shani but I'm sure it will come soon, as in the last update she become integrated with the main couple/breeder/future wife thing of theirs. Shani is very new to it. About Ain, I'm not sure what is missing in your hopes.

Maybe some kind of random event in the home before you go to sleep and one random girl has intreraction with the mc? Or just during the day between you chose to click somewhere, a random event with the girls would come? That may be nice. If not this I'm not sure to understand the disappointment.
 

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“Icing on the cake” means something that makes a good thing even better, even if it’s not essential.
yes but then, there is a kind disappointment, something you would have liked/hoped for. that's what I asked what kind of thing that would have been better than it is already.
 

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if you want to expand the System to also make a difference in what Situation the Interaction is happening
With the number of routes and events taking place in the game already, I would presume programming in a custom nickname system based on the specific event that the characters find themselves interacting in, would be a challenging endeavour to say the least.

much easier as it would be just a writing thing
Yeah, I can potentially see this working as well...again it just depends on the dev's current appetite on whether they see this as a feature worth allocating developer time and resources to. To be fair, this is just an additional layer of personalization to each person's gameplay experience in DS.....It is interesting to speculate about and theorize, but when it comes down to implementing it, it may reveal an added layer of complexity based on the original idea.
 

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that's what I asked what kind of thing that would have been better than it is already
They just want to see a custom nickname system in place. E.g., Ain/Shani refer to the MC using pet names (e.g., like daddy) when they are not on official Stalker business...or if they are out on official business, Ain/Shani have another way of expressing the MC in more formal terms....

Just to add a layer of personalization to one's playthrough... I've seen games do this before (notably in harems) where they give you the option to customize what the girls in the harem refer to you as once you've had a chance to significantly build up your relationship with them in game.
 

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With the number of routes and events taking place in the game already, I would presume programming in a custom nickname system based on the specific event that the characters find themselves interacting in, would be a challenging endeavour to say the least.
Easiest way to be specifically name the renders for a given scene with a scene prefix. Easy enough to send a call to then.

Absolute pain in the ass? Yes. Headache inducing? Yes. Time-consuming for no real reward? Absolutely. Likely to be done. I seriously doubt it. Be a nice concept and clever, but would need to have been done and coded that way from day one.
 

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They just want to see a custom nickname system in place. E.g., Ain/Shani refer to the MC using pet names (e.g., like daddy) when they are not on official Stalker business...or if they are out on official business, Ain/Shani have another way of expressing the MC in more formal terms....

Just to add a layer of personalization to one's playthrough... I've seen games do this before (notably in harems) where they give you the option to customize what the girls in the harem refer to you as once you've had a chance to significantly build up your relationship with them in game.
oh ok, but then the editing/choice about being stepdad or whatever we want (dad/uncle/bf...) would lose its thing except with a few words from random dialogues like "sugar/master/sir/sweety ..." no matter what we chose for the mc being to be about them.
 

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Absolute pain in the ass? Yes. Headache inducing? Yes. Time-consuming for no real reward? Absolutely. Likely to be done. I seriously doubt it. Be a nice concept and clever, but would need to have been done and coded that way from day one.
Yeah, precisely right. That is why I alluded to this in my earlier response of the "appetite" the dev may have if they plan on implementing this function this far into development with the many character events and whatnot already codified into the game....

If it is not worth the developer resources to extend, then I fear that it might altogether be scrapped for brevity and to ensure that more high-priority developer action items get sorted out first in their project pipeline....
 
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Vakkyr

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Yeah, precisely right. That is why I alluded to this in my earlier response of the "appetite" the dev may have if they plan on implementing this function this far into development with the many character events and whatnot already codified into the game....

If it is not worth the developer resources to extend, then I fear that it might altogether be scrapped for brevity and to ensure that more high-priority developer action items get sorted out first in their project pipeline....
Yeah it's extremely unlikely to happen. You either start with such a detailed System or you stick to what you have. The needed Work to implement this is huge. And then we didn't talk about how well maintained and documented the code in the first place is.

Still, I'll hang onto this Dream as long as DS isn't finished, and then I hope for a "Remaster" that implements it:p

oh ok, but then the editing/choice about being stepdad or whatever we want (dad/uncle/bf...) would lose its thing except with a few words from random dialogues like "sugar/master/sir/sweety ..." no matter what we chose for the mc being to be about them.
To me the actual System feels more like what you describe. In it's actual form it seems to exist to avoid being Banned from Patreon and co for having Incest in the Game without taking the option for the Players away that like that kink.

A more complex/detailed System would ad some nice layers of not only customization, but also Character depth onto the already great experience. But I also see how, if implemented badly, a more elaborate Nickname System could take away from the experience.
 

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the writing has gotten worse this update
Is there perchance any constructive criticism that you would suggest to the dev and/or fellow players of the game to more illustratively demonstrate why you feel that the writing is not as up to par in the most recent DS update? Do you feel as if the character conversations were too stale? Or were the dialogues simply not as meaningful and/or impactful sentiment-wise from a character-bonding lens?

Just intrigued to know why you feel the way that you do, not meant to call anyone out or anything. But just curious to know for my own knowledge sake if anything.
 

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Oh ok, then just try sleeping for a day and let the game's internal clock progress. See if the event makes itself available the next day since you've fulfilled that event criteria. You should see the 'exclamation mark' appear in the living room which would indicate that a new scene/event is available.
I installed the game again, slept a couple nights and this is my common room screen. I don´t know what went wrong. Also, is it normal that I can´t summon Fairy and Kateryna too?
 
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I installed the game again, slept a couple nights and this is my common room screen. I don´t know what went wrong. Also, is it normal that I can´t summon Fairy and Kateryna too?
I'm wondering about this too. First time player here that just reached the end and both Fairy and Kat are greyed out for me too.
Btw I am glad I saved this one for a rainy day because goddamn it's REALLY GOOD :D :D :D
 
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