Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 53] [CSDev]

[SuperSkippy]

The game actually does already use a raffle-like system (though I understand that it's hard to tell with how messy my code is). However, your Influence will still pile up just because there aren't enough heavyweight items to make it likely that you'll go through it all. If you're getting 10 Influence per loop, you need to be picking an item worth 20 Influence on average in order to break even, and that number goes up by a lot with the extra Influence from warp routes or Splendor breakage. I didn't include many high-Influence items originally because there was so little to do in campaign mode, but I definitely need to remedy that soon now that we're well into the double-digit loops.

A reminder--when I look at your code, it's comment-free and through a Java decompiler--I don't see it the same way as you do. Also Java is definitely not my preferred language so keep writing code the way that works for you, not me. I'm interested to see what you add!

 

[James The Mighty]

thank you. I knew something was being weird, though i don't think i've seen a bug like that before

 

[Nemo de Nemo]

how do you loop?

Loops specifically refer to one city invasions. Basically, A Single Scenario can be called a loop, in this case a closed one since you can't move on to a new city. In campain, the first city you successfully take over is loop 1 with the next city you attack being loop 2. Beating city 2 opens up loop 3 and so on. This explanation ignores the warp system since I never played around with that.

 

[Kokocho24]

Loops specifically refer to one city invasions. Basically, A Single Scenario can be called a loop, in this case a closed one since you can't move on to a new city. In campain, the first city you successfully take over is loop 1 with the next city you attack being loop 2. Beating city 2 opens up loop 3 and so on. This explanation ignores the warp system since I never played around with that.

ahh okay so you actually have to take over the city thank you

 

[EchoEater]

For some of my Forsaken, they don't show all of their stat pages when I'm taking an alternate route. The issue is fixed when I go back to a normal loop. As far as I've seen, it always stops part of the way though the "Relationships" section. I'll look a bit more later to see if I can determine any sort of pattern on which Forsaken it happens to.

As a side note, this is not a new problem to the most recent update. While I only just now noticed it with this update, I went back to the previous one and saw that it occurred there as well.

 

[Kokocho24]

so I might need a little help cause i can't loop and i've tried like four times. is there any tips or guide i could look at?

 

[Nemo de Nemo]

so I might need a little help cause i can't loop and i've tried like four times. is there any tips or guide i could look at?

Are you unable to beat the chosen in the alotted time (50 days for loop 1) or are you encountering a bug that prevents you from moving on even though you won the final battle? Also are you playing on campain mode?

 

[Kokocho24]

Are you unable to beat the chosen in the alotted time (50 days for loop 1) or are you encountering a bug that prevents you from moving on even though you won the final battle? Also are you playing on campain mode?

the compaign

 

[James The Mighty]

i don't know if we've even been told this yet, but do we have any sort of formula telling us how strong the buffs we get from sparing forsaken are? I know the way they're assigned is whatever stat is highest, unless obedience is under 33%, but would sparing a chosen with 50% hostility only give half the benefits of sparing one with 100% hostility?

 

[James The Mighty]

perhaps i'm not understanding how "sparing" works for the forsaken, or with cheats on there's something weird happening. I loaded up a custom game save from v50b and spared at least one chosen for each faction, then started a new single game. apparently all the girls i spared got unspared, but that's not much of a surprise.

Why am I able to still deploy "spared" forsaken for fights, and why are they still being kept in the normal forsaken roster as well as the "other minions" tab? having the extra 5 girls clogging up the front page of the roster is gonna drive me a bit nuts, especially when I can't get rid of them unless i start a new game and completely delete them that way

 

[James The Mighty]

oh, and apparently trying to open "other minions" when you haven't spared anyone can make the game freeze too, noted

 

[Nemo de Nemo]

the compaign

If it is the campain then either you haven't won the final battle (which I doubt since you are here seeking help) or something broke in your game. Assuming it is the latter, it would be best to upload a save with this problem so CSDev can look at and hopefully resolve the issue in further releases.
If you don't want to wait around for said fix, I would recomend trying a new campain game on another save or do a clean install of Saviors to see if that resolves the issue.

 

[McHuman]

i don't know if we've even been told this yet, but do we have any sort of formula telling us how strong the buffs we get from sparing forsaken are? I know the way they're assigned is whatever stat is highest, unless obedience is under 33%, but would sparing a chosen with 50% hostility only give half the benefits of sparing one with 100% hostility?

From my understanding, the spare roles provide a linear bonus for the number of members in the faction, the stats they have don't matter beyond dictating what faction they end up in.

perhaps i'm not understanding how "sparing" works for the forsaken, or with cheats on there's something weird happening. I loaded up a custom game save from v50b and spared at least one chosen for each faction, then started a new single game. apparently all the girls i spared got unspared, but that's not much of a surprise.

Why am I able to still deploy "spared" forsaken for fights, and why are they still being kept in the normal forsaken roster as well as the "other minions" tab? having the extra 5 girls clogging up the front page of the roster is gonna drive me a bit nuts, especially when I can't get rid of them unless i start a new game and completely delete them that way

I haven't messed around with it, but if I had to guess either because of cheats or how single play works rather than actually getting rid of the spared Forsaken, it just creates a copy that's spared instead. If you want to get rid of the Forsaken anyways just delete them in the normal way after sparing them.

 

[irrelevant4123]

CSdev
I've encountered a R51 bug: Using the Tempt Forsaken action on one of the chosen that's ready to use Slaughter for the first time will "reset" her state to the previous "Reach X unresolved FEAR", making her unable to use Slaughter that fight. The setup I have only allows me to check for FEAR/Slaughter, so I can't confirm if it rolls back any of the other vulnerabilities. For context, the Chosen getting Tempted is on the Rampancy path and had the distortion triggered.

Edit: Also checked if the bug happens on using a Superior's Chosen Release to end the capture early or if it happens on a normal, non-tempt capture. Bug did not occur in either of those cases, only if the Chosen is tempted then the capture is allowed to finish normally.

 

[Eurocorp]

I'm not sure if this has been asked before but what are good early game commander strategies? I'm having trouble figuring out what upgrades to get first and all, and which upgrade combos are good. Also what are the .ros folders for in portrait packs?

 

[irrelevant4123]

I've also noticed another bug but I have no idea what action causes it:

Rarely, Chosen captured by Forsaken will no longer display anything when Examined, bar the "Previous Surround Damage" section.

 

[McHuman]

I'm not sure if this has been asked before but what are good early game commander strategies? I'm having trouble figuring out what upgrades to get first and all, and which upgrade combos are good.

Get all the 1 and 2 cost upgrades, then use commanders 4 turn capture duration and 2 capture attempts. That is more than enough to get T1 Breaks on two Chosen in a single day, and depending on vulnerabilities you should usually be able to get at least one T2 Break.

 

[koktanyasaya]

i got bug when i change the chousen species in campaign before begain campaign, i stuck in this option and cant do anyting
but for few chousen change species i dont get a bug like that but many of them alwasy

 

[Nobody032]

Seems like forsaken are not losing any motivation when deployed right now.

Also a minor thing but the text here is wrong:

I was wondering do people make use of the Soul Liquification item? It's seems kinda pointless in my opinion. Just getting 10% of energy you invest everyday is too low to be of any use. Aren't you just better off utilising that energy elsewhere?

 

[Name36346]

I was wondering do people make use of the Soul Liquification item? It's seems kinda pointless in my opinion. Just getting 10% of energy you invest everyday is too low to be of any use. Aren't you just better off utilising that energy elsewhere?

I assume that primary purpose of this item is to prevent said energy from being leeched off by hungry Undeads.