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Nemo56

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Max, however, tries everything to have sex with Ann. If he succeeds, he is responsible for the NTR. Not Eric!
Only if you consider Eric being the protagonist and he catches them: The protagonist suffers from catchin a loved one lost to someone else. And they don't even have to have sex. Netorare is about the loss, not another guy's schniedelwutz.

In some cases Eric even allows Max to join in or watch, which is not NTR it's sharing.
This is true.
And also this aspect will be very very limited. Lisa won't be affected for sure and the same is most likely valid for Alice.
 
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torresm

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You Guys Don't Understand About NTR In This Game? Every Female Should Be Fuck By Max First Even Ann(Eric's Girlfriend) But Eric Start Cock Blocking Max And He Start Fucking The Girls First And Max Fuck His Leftover. That's Why Called NTR.
Why are you writing like that? Feels like I'm reading an overly long anime title. :KEK:
 

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The term NTL means netori. This is because some people believe having NTR abbreviate both netori and netorare is confusing, so for they use NTR for netorare, and NTL for netori.



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NTR
netorare

The act of having one's lover taken by someone else. (literally.)
 

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The term NTL means netori. This is because some people believe having NTR abbreviate both netori and netorare is confusing, so for they use NTR for netorare, and NTL for netori.



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netorare

The act of having one's lover taken by someone else. (literally.)
Yeah this is why we get endless fighting over NTR. Most people want Netori but NOT Netorare. But most games with the NTR tag have Netorare, not Netori. So NTR is frequently taken to mean only Netorare.
 
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Nemo56

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Yeah this is why we get endless fighting over NTR. Most people want Netori but NOT Netorare. But most games with the NTR tag have Netorare, not Netori. So NTR is frequently taken to mean only Netorare.
... and even more often misinterpreted by people who just want (or don't want) to see someone else than the MC banging any girl.
 

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Only if you like NTR content. For most people he's a minor nuisance to be eliminated as soon as possible and would have minimal impact on the story if he wasn't there to begin with.
I read several novels and a villain or antagonist is always necessary to challenge the protagonist, you have a main character who needs to overcome challenges and have activities to advance, drama is also something that makes people take sides, it generates greater interest, If you remove the villains or antagonists you lose a lot of interest, it is important to make players or reader of a novel feel emotional, if you only want a protagonist where his only challenge is to corrupt women, it becomes very flat as a story.
 
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Nemo56

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You really should play a game with a villain then that the hero needs to fight.
Face it: This is Alexey's baby, not ours. It does not matter what we as community think is best for the story. You want Eric? There is already another game featuring him.
Eric never was much more than a side char in BIBOAS and most people were happy. Gameplaywise he was never a challenge anyway. No, not every story needs an antagonist.
 
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You really should play a game with a villain then that the hero needs to fight.
Face it: This is Alexey's baby, not ours. It does not matter what we as community think is best for the story. You want Eric? There is already another game featuring him.
Eric never was much more than a side char in BIBOAS and most people were happy. Gameplaywise he was never a challenge anyway. No, not every story needs an antagonist.
if Eric was never a challenge why then people talk about him always?, if he never was important why people don´t stop reacting about him? you take Eric out, you lose content and at least Eric make the diference with other games like Bad Bobby Saga, Man of the House or Straitened Times.
 
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if Eric was never a challenge why then people talk about him always?, if he never was important why people don´t stop reacting about him? you take Eric out, you lose content and at least Eric make the diference with other games like Bad Boby Saga, Man of the House or Straitened Times.
Because they're afraid Eric will end up fucking Max's soft childish ass.(I would love to see this scene.):ROFLMAO:
 

Nemo56

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if Eric was never a challenge why then people talk about him always?, if he never was important why people don´t stop reacting about him?
People only talk about challengeing characters?
I also react to Alice, she's not challenging. If there's a "Moarrr Alice!" petition, I sign instantly.

And how exactly is Eric a challenge on Friendship and Fake Friendship path if you actually team up with him?
Only on War path he is the antagonist. And in the previous game the one and only challenge was to get a outfit before him by getting a bank credit. You had to keep the girls happy one way or another, no matter if Eric's there or not. So he was no challenge.
(edit: In one update the algorithm behind Alice's influence was bugged, Eric got way too much influence which could not be countered, but that was fixed)

you take Eric out, you lose content and at least Eric make the diference with other games like Bad Boby Saga, Man of the House or Straitened Times.
He won't be taken out, he'll be on both paths. But he also won't get any intimate interaction with the sisters. He is only a small part of the game, no matter what path you chose. All the opportunities that don't involve him in ay way work perfectly without him, there is no need to force him into anything.


And I repeat: There is already a game with tons of Eric content, more that will ever make it to this game, no matter how much his fans will beg for.


Because they're afraid Eric will end up fucking Max's soft childish ass.(I would love to see this scene.):ROFLMAO:
Eric understands Max in a way only a man can. Let them take a vacation together and meanwhile we get cool renders of the girls.
 
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I dont know why people keep bringing him up I guess some people this a games called Big Brother somehow is about Eric and not Max. Even in the Renpy Remake BB games it is played through the lens of Max not Eric. It seems those that want him in the games think he is needed even though they have never played the original and have no clue how evil the original Eric was.
 

Nemo56

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I dont know why people keep bringing him up I guess some people this a games called Big Brother somehow is about Eric and not Max. Even in the Renpy Remake BB games it is played through the lens of Max not Eric. It seems those that want him in the games think he is needed even though they have never played the original and have no clue how evil the original Eric was.
The name of the game is actually about the cameras :)
If someone at some point makes a Eric game, he has my blessing. I won't play it, since I don't want to play a character that reflects what his fans want from him (being abusive and brutal, also wanting to steal the house, in the original he even had a fake identity), but others might enjoy it. So ... why not.
 
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if Eric was never a challenge why then people talk about him always?, if he never was important why people don´t stop reacting about him? you take Eric out, you lose content and at least Eric make the diference with other games like Bad Boby Saga, Man of the House or Straitened Times.
Sigh, I guess it's time to post a VERY long message about the history of EVIL Scum Eric and why he is such a problem. If you want to skip the LONG explanation, then it boils down to Eric was a BAD character that was POORLY implemented and changed the original game completely. Many people HATE the character and want him gone (he isn't really needed) as there are other ways to create challenges for players that would be better. Aleksey90 has done (in my opinion) a MUCH better job with this than others I have seen.

Now the tale of EVIL. :)
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This was a 'Brief' look at what started the issue, and if you want more then look through the to many posts on the original games thread.

To wrap up this post (my fingers are starting to hurt), The game doesn't need the Eric Character to be good or possibly great. In the post I quoted there is mention of content being 'Lost' if the character is removed. My response to that is yes, a particular TYPE of content is lost. HOWEVER, the loss of that content would allow for MORE of the content that is preferred by the (on average) Larger group of followers.

Right, I need a break. I know that my history review doesn't really convey how HORRIBLE the original situation actually was, but it should give an idea as to why MANY people HATE the EVIL Scum Eric Character.

In conclusion, this version seems to be dealing with the EVIL Character fairly well so far, and I hope that it continues. We will be able to block or avoid most content with him and we have been told that he WILL be gone eventually to allow the story to continue.

Just some thoughts.
 

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The name of the game is actually about the cameras :)
If someone at some point makes a Eric game, he has my blessing. I won't play it, since I don't want to play a character that reflects what his fans want from him (being abusive and brutal, also wanting to steal the house, in the original he even had a fake identity), but others might enjoy it. So ... why not.
I actually have a plot for an Eric game, but it finishes just before he meets Ann I might try and make it one day
 
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