VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[qwerty#2001]

jill and isabella r so fucking hot

 

[Macky009]

It happens. I don't blame Bella, but she absolutely should have told Jill earlier, I get it would be a hard conversation to have, but it was still pretty crappy to wait that long.

But hey, Jill's like a magnet for shitty friends.

My issue here is that when Bella catching a feeling for Fuckface, she should have told Jill sooner. I know it's a difficult conversation but it should have happen

 

[Riaman]

True, but I reacted to:

"Hence my Bella run would be Dik. Where Bella doesn't recommend him to Jill."

Which I believe is incorrect, at least in the long run.

Maybe Bella doesn't recommends but then Jill will be automatically repelled. Why cry when you reject that guy yourself.

 

[Kpyna]

Or Josy just acts here as if nothing is wrong (I doubt it, but you never know).

However when you post the picture with the Pink Roses while on a M+J path, the do get pissed while Jill does not. However this is almost certainly because Lily posted it and I doubt either Jill or Bella (who would almost definitely tell Jill) have Lily in their friends list on Rooster. Still M+Js reaction sounds pretty jealous, especially since at that point you aren't exclusive with them yet.

There's a lot (wrong)

Little test question about still dating Jill, if you decided to hang out with Josy in HOTs pool:



Josy after learning that MC is still dating Jill. While Maya is still in "experimental" mode and doesn't feel that bad at all. Josy at this point in absolutely love with MC already.



Josy during strippers scene in EP9 (when they arrived to party and Maya literally drooling on them). Also Bella's comment after.



Then... if you agreed to post picture from Pink Rose in Rooster - you're off Jill path already anyway. So, why she should care? Josy also will not post any comment if you're not in a Throuple. Regarding the whole situation... it's like "dude, you've got 2 hot girls at a time, wtf you're jeopardizing this?!" And even though they committed later than with any other MGs (end of EP9), it's still meant to be treated and thought that way. Yeah, they aren't exclusive, on words and kinda an "agreement" made in EP5. But emotionally, Josy thought it was all settled already. She was just waiting for such a moment:



She thought it was just a question of time, and was sure MC had already choose her (them). Just to get a *boom* out of nowhere after being ghosted by MC for a couple of weeks (Zoey is a good teacher in such things). Right after the meeting with Burkes and till Halloween.




MC constantly says (internal voice) that he should talk to them asap, before they learn from someone else. And he agreed that it was a mistake to ignore them/prolong this for weeks.

 

[Chillout1984]

Maybe she'll dye her hair red

 

[Chillout1984]

There's a lot (wrong)

Little test question about still dating Jill, if you decided to hang out with Josy in HOTs pool:

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Josy after learning that MC is still dating Jill. While Maya is still in "experimental" mode and doesn't feel that bad at all. Josy at this point in absolutely love with MC already.

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Josy during strippers scene in EP9 (when they arrived to party and Maya literally drooling on them). Also Bella's comment after.

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Then... if you agreed to post picture from Pink Rose in Rooster - you're off Jill path already anyway. So, why she should care? Josy also will not post any comment if you're not in a Throuple. Regarding the whole situation... it's like "dude, you've got 2 hot girls at a time, wtf you're jeopardizing this?!" And even though they committed later than with any other MGs (end of EP9), it's still meant to be treated and thought that way. Yeah, they aren't exclusive, on words and kinda an "agreement" made in EP5. But emotionally, Josy thought it was all settled already. She was just waiting for such a moment:

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She thought it was just a question of time, and was sure MC had already choose her (them). Just to get a *boom* out of nowhere after being ghosted by MC for a couple of weeks (Zoey is a good teacher in such things). Right after the meeting with Burkes and till Halloween.

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MC constantly says (internal voice) that he should talk to them asap, before they learn from someone else. And he agreed that it was a mistake to ignore them/prolong this for weeks.

You're forgetting 1 important thing: Josy didn't want the trouple at all, but was forced into it by Maya and Tremolo because she was to afraid to speak up. Afterwards she just agreed to it because she was afraid to otherwise lose both.

Also the way I understood it, she'd rather have a relationship with only Tremolo instead of Maya. And there often is an undertone of Josy being jealous if you kissed/had sex with only Maya when she finds out.

 

[Kpyna]

'm not saying the drugs itself has to do with the intention, but the scene afterwards if you tell Jill you can't make a promise to not do it again does. That means you don't take her ideas/feelings too seriously. I was talking about the shrooms, not the weed.

Here we face the game logic and it's limitations. I can partially agree with you regarding reasons and how to treat not giving a promise, but it's too complicated for game mechanics which is more direct. So, when MC is giving or refusing to get a promise, he is talking about the drugs. IRL it could be the way you say it, but in game... it's limited to drugs theme. Because you can be absolutely loyal and have TC = 0 at that moment, then what sense it makes?

You're forgetting 1 important thing: Josy didn't want the trouple at all, but was forced into it by Maya and Tremolo because she was to afraid to speak up. Afterwards she just agreed to it because she was afraid to otherwise lose both.

Also the way I understood it, she'd rather have a relationship with only Tremolo instead of Maya. And there often is an undertone of Josy being jealous if you kissed/had sex with only Maya when she finds out.

She will said it later, ONLY if you refuse the Throuple... that she was afraid to speak up because it could lead to loosing both and leaving her with nothing. She never complained while being IN a Throuple. I can say she DREAMED about something like that (Throuple). Because at the moment of conversation in library she reconciled and talked out things with Maya already. It was about MC and new kind of relationship or just staying the friends. Third option was to speak up and risk of losing both. Maya agreeing to MC proposal was a great relief to her.

Just don't forget that we are playing a game. And since the affinity at that point have even less sense, it forces them to reject MC (cause "something" is wrong with him). But it doesn't make sense after this particular talk. Choices and consequences can't grow indefinitely. So, each game have a balance between choices/consequences and believability of things happening on the screen and writing quality. BADIK have one of the best combos in terms of choices and how they're handled after and the whole plot itself. Just don't demand more than game may have or give out, otherwise you'll not be able to enjoy it.

 

[Chillout1984]

Here we face the game logic and it's limitations. I can partially agree with you regarding reasons and how to treat not giving a promise, but it's too complicated for game mechanics which is more direct. So, when MC is giving or refusing to get a promise, he is talking about the drugs. IRL it could be the way you say it, but in game... it's limited to drugs theme. Because you can be absolutely loyal and have TC = 0 at that moment, then what sense it makes?

I guess you only see TC with the mod? If so, does not giving the promise give 1 TC? If so, that would be perfectly fine.
You can still be loyal to someone on a sexual level while giving them distrust in you. You would end with lower TC if you only refuse to promise things someone cares about, but it should still give some negative points overall in the relationship.

 

[Kpyna]

I guess you only see TC with the mod? If so, does not giving the promise give 1 TC? If so, that would be perfectly fine.
You can still be loyal to someone on a sexual level while giving them distrust in you. You would end with lower TC if you only refuse to promise things someone cares about, but it should still give some negative points overall in the relationship.

It's a hidden variable and it's not shown in official guide. Not giving Jill a promise doesn't add a TC point. Jill clearly asks about "not doing it again (drugs)" and MC responds accordingly. Variable with his answer is stored as well.

All I mean and trying to say, that IRL the "bad" behaviours is often somehow connected. E.g. doing drugs, stealing money, lying, not being faithful etc. But it seems overcomplicated for the game and game mechanics in general. And this mechanics was made exclusively for a Neutral affinity... For Chick and DIK affs it's much more simpler. You always get a Neutral and your affinity side option. Not any additional conditions, nor dependencies how you behaved previously and what choices you made. At a first glance Neutral aff looks like an opportunity to build a "perfect" MC, not too sissy, not too dickhead, but all this choices works in groups. So, you get both a cons and a pros depending on particular features, major choice and situation. For example - being a good and well known "fighter" sounds good... but will it work out that good with a Patrick? Because optimal option for him looks like to "save Maya", even though most players prefer to confront him and even more prefer to punch him.

 

[Chillout1984]

It's a hidden variable and it's not shown in official guide. Not giving Jill a promise doesn't add a TC point. Jill clearly asks about "not doing it again (drugs)" and MC responds accordingly. Variable with his answer is stored as well.

All I mean and trying to say, that IRL the "bad" behaviours is often somehow connected. E.g. doing drugs, stealing money, lying, not being faithful etc. But it seems overcomplicated for the game and game mechanics in general. And this mechanics was made exclusively for a Neutral affinity... For Chick and DIK affs it's much more simpler. You always get a Neutral and your affinity side option. Not any additional conditions, nor dependencies how you behaved previously and what choices you made. At a first glance Neutral aff looks like an opportunity to build a "perfect" MC, not too sissy, not too dickhead, but all this choices works in groups. So, you get both a cons and a pros depending on particular features, major choice and situation. For example - being a good and well known "fighter" sounds good... but will it work out that good with a Patrick? Because optimal option for him looks like to "save Maya", even though most players prefer to confront him and even more prefer to punch him.

Ah I understand now. Then again, I'm still of the viewpoint that it could easily add a TC point for simplicity sake together with the variable it already gives, just because it makes someone untrustworthy in a relationship and it's easy to code.
The only thing the current code makes easier (if you know it's there), is to min/max for stuff that you can either only do with a maximum, minimum or specific amount of TC.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Really? She brings home a guy... how could it be anything otherwise?

 

[Chillout1984]

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Really? She brings home a guy... how could it be anything otherwise?

You never brought a friend or fellow student of the opposite sex home, even just for dinner?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

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Really? She brings home a guy... how could it be anything otherwise?

Shows how bad things are in Jill's family in terms of what a bubble they built for her, protecting her after Lana's death. Trying to protect their daughter from the outside world, they hurt her even more. I can't imagine what would have happened if Jill hadn't socialized with Bianca and Bella. We would have had an absolutely socially awkward basement dweller... actually, Jill's writing in the second season fits the term.
Another broken family, like every MGs family in BaDIK.

 

[Maccabbee]

It's pretty obvious that even being raised by a single father after mom dies at birrh, growing up dirt poor, that Tremolo has the healthiest family life in the game.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Ah I understand now. Then again, I'm still of the viewpoint that it could easily add a TC point for simplicity sake together with the variable it already gives, just because it makes someone untrustworthy in a relationship and it's easy to code.
The only thing the current code makes easier (if you know it's there), is to min/max for stuff that you can either only do with a maximum, minimum or specific amount of TC.

It's really just for cheating. Grabbing tits and ass, kissing other girls, some heavy flirting, etc. I can't recall if it was ever officially stated what they stand for, but I think it's something like Temptation Count or Tremolo Cheat. The latter, probably.

 

[Chillout1984]

The latter sounds indeed more logical, considering Temptation Count should imo include every type of temptation, including drugs, shoplifting and other addictions.

 

[hakuna-matata]

You never brought a friend or fellow student of the opposite sex home, even just for dinner?

It was always a mix.

 

[treechild1]

Ah, it's so great to see everyone working together and having positive social intercourse again. It truly warms my heart. However, I thought that I might at times overthought the mechanics of this game. But, you guys... sometimes I feel as if-

Haha.. fixed.

 

[treechild1]

Guys... the images aren't showing or loading correctly for me on most pages. IDK what you see from my post. if anything. So I guess I 'll give this another break and hope it fixes itself (or something).

 

[MiltonPowers]

Guys... the images aren't showing or loading correctly for me on most pages. IDK what you see from my post. if anything. So I guess I 'll give this another break and hope it fixes itself (or something).

Everything is working on F95 end. Are you using a VPN? I know any images stored on Imgur will not show on here if you are using a VPN.