VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Kpyna]

'm not saying the drugs itself has to do with the intention, but the scene afterwards if you tell Jill you can't make a promise to not do it again does. That means you don't take her ideas/feelings too seriously. I was talking about the shrooms, not the weed.

Here we face the game logic and it's limitations. I can partially agree with you regarding reasons and how to treat not giving a promise, but it's too complicated for game mechanics which is more direct. So, when MC is giving or refusing to get a promise, he is talking about the drugs. IRL it could be the way you say it, but in game... it's limited to drugs theme. Because you can be absolutely loyal and have TC = 0 at that moment, then what sense it makes?

You're forgetting 1 important thing: Josy didn't want the trouple at all, but was forced into it by Maya and Tremolo because she was to afraid to speak up. Afterwards she just agreed to it because she was afraid to otherwise lose both.

Also the way I understood it, she'd rather have a relationship with only Tremolo instead of Maya. And there often is an undertone of Josy being jealous if you kissed/had sex with only Maya when she finds out.

She will said it later, ONLY if you refuse the Throuple... that she was afraid to speak up because it could lead to loosing both and leaving her with nothing. She never complained while being IN a Throuple. I can say she DREAMED about something like that (Throuple). Because at the moment of conversation in library she reconciled and talked out things with Maya already. It was about MC and new kind of relationship or just staying the friends. Third option was to speak up and risk of losing both. Maya agreeing to MC proposal was a great relief to her.

Just don't forget that we are playing a game. And since the affinity at that point have even less sense, it forces them to reject MC (cause "something" is wrong with him). But it doesn't make sense after this particular talk. Choices and consequences can't grow indefinitely. So, each game have a balance between choices/consequences and believability of things happening on the screen and writing quality. BADIK have one of the best combos in terms of choices and how they're handled after and the whole plot itself. Just don't demand more than game may have or give out, otherwise you'll not be able to enjoy it.

 

[Chillout1984]

Here we face the game logic and it's limitations. I can partially agree with you regarding reasons and how to treat not giving a promise, but it's too complicated for game mechanics which is more direct. So, when MC is giving or refusing to get a promise, he is talking about the drugs. IRL it could be the way you say it, but in game... it's limited to drugs theme. Because you can be absolutely loyal and have TC = 0 at that moment, then what sense it makes?

I guess you only see TC with the mod? If so, does not giving the promise give 1 TC? If so, that would be perfectly fine.
You can still be loyal to someone on a sexual level while giving them distrust in you. You would end with lower TC if you only refuse to promise things someone cares about, but it should still give some negative points overall in the relationship.

 

[Kpyna]

I guess you only see TC with the mod? If so, does not giving the promise give 1 TC? If so, that would be perfectly fine.
You can still be loyal to someone on a sexual level while giving them distrust in you. You would end with lower TC if you only refuse to promise things someone cares about, but it should still give some negative points overall in the relationship.

It's a hidden variable and it's not shown in official guide. Not giving Jill a promise doesn't add a TC point. Jill clearly asks about "not doing it again (drugs)" and MC responds accordingly. Variable with his answer is stored as well.

All I mean and trying to say, that IRL the "bad" behaviours is often somehow connected. E.g. doing drugs, stealing money, lying, not being faithful etc. But it seems overcomplicated for the game and game mechanics in general. And this mechanics was made exclusively for a Neutral affinity... For Chick and DIK affs it's much more simpler. You always get a Neutral and your affinity side option. Not any additional conditions, nor dependencies how you behaved previously and what choices you made. At a first glance Neutral aff looks like an opportunity to build a "perfect" MC, not too sissy, not too dickhead, but all this choices works in groups. So, you get both a cons and a pros depending on particular features, major choice and situation. For example - being a good and well known "fighter" sounds good... but will it work out that good with a Patrick? Because optimal option for him looks like to "save Maya", even though most players prefer to confront him and even more prefer to punch him.

 

[Chillout1984]

It's a hidden variable and it's not shown in official guide. Not giving Jill a promise doesn't add a TC point. Jill clearly asks about "not doing it again (drugs)" and MC responds accordingly. Variable with his answer is stored as well.

All I mean and trying to say, that IRL the "bad" behaviours is often somehow connected. E.g. doing drugs, stealing money, lying, not being faithful etc. But it seems overcomplicated for the game and game mechanics in general. And this mechanics was made exclusively for a Neutral affinity... For Chick and DIK affs it's much more simpler. You always get a Neutral and your affinity side option. Not any additional conditions, nor dependencies how you behaved previously and what choices you made. At a first glance Neutral aff looks like an opportunity to build a "perfect" MC, not too sissy, not too dickhead, but all this choices works in groups. So, you get both a cons and a pros depending on particular features, major choice and situation. For example - being a good and well known "fighter" sounds good... but will it work out that good with a Patrick? Because optimal option for him looks like to "save Maya", even though most players prefer to confront him and even more prefer to punch him.

Ah I understand now. Then again, I'm still of the viewpoint that it could easily add a TC point for simplicity sake together with the variable it already gives, just because it makes someone untrustworthy in a relationship and it's easy to code.
The only thing the current code makes easier (if you know it's there), is to min/max for stuff that you can either only do with a maximum, minimum or specific amount of TC.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Really? She brings home a guy... how could it be anything otherwise?

 

[Chillout1984]

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Really? She brings home a guy... how could it be anything otherwise?

You never brought a friend or fellow student of the opposite sex home, even just for dinner?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

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Really? She brings home a guy... how could it be anything otherwise?

Shows how bad things are in Jill's family in terms of what a bubble they built for her, protecting her after Lana's death. Trying to protect their daughter from the outside world, they hurt her even more. I can't imagine what would have happened if Jill hadn't socialized with Bianca and Bella. We would have had an absolutely socially awkward basement dweller... actually, Jill's writing in the second season fits the term.
Another broken family, like every MGs family in BaDIK.

 

[Maccabbee]

It's pretty obvious that even being raised by a single father after mom dies at birrh, growing up dirt poor, that Tremolo has the healthiest family life in the game.

 

[Better Cock Spock]

Ah I understand now. Then again, I'm still of the viewpoint that it could easily add a TC point for simplicity sake together with the variable it already gives, just because it makes someone untrustworthy in a relationship and it's easy to code.
The only thing the current code makes easier (if you know it's there), is to min/max for stuff that you can either only do with a maximum, minimum or specific amount of TC.

It's really just for cheating. Grabbing tits and ass, kissing other girls, some heavy flirting, etc. I can't recall if it was ever officially stated what they stand for, but I think it's something like Temptation Count or Tremolo Cheat. The latter, probably.

 

[Chillout1984]

The latter sounds indeed more logical, considering Temptation Count should imo include every type of temptation, including drugs, shoplifting and other addictions.

 

[hakuna-matata]

You never brought a friend or fellow student of the opposite sex home, even just for dinner?

It was always a mix.

 

[treechild1]

Ah, it's so great to see everyone working together and having positive social intercourse again. It truly warms my heart. However, I thought that I might at times overthought the mechanics of this game. But, you guys... sometimes I feel as if-

Haha.. fixed.

 

[treechild1]

Guys... the images aren't showing or loading correctly for me on most pages. IDK what you see from my post. if anything. So I guess I 'll give this another break and hope it fixes itself (or something).

 

[MiltonPowers]

Guys... the images aren't showing or loading correctly for me on most pages. IDK what you see from my post. if anything. So I guess I 'll give this another break and hope it fixes itself (or something).

Everything is working on F95 end. Are you using a VPN? I know any images stored on Imgur will not show on here if you are using a VPN.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Everything is working on F95 end. Are you using a VPN? I know any images stored on Imgur will not show on here if you are using a VPN.

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Probably more of the BS changes they made with the format. Now you can't save a picture from f95 and reupload it beacuse even the fucking site doesn't recognize the avif format as a picture. So you have to jump through hoops to convert them and then post them, to have the site convert them in avif again.


I wonder if the alleged faster loading times they report would have anything to do with people stopping actually engaging with the pictures entirely since its so retarded and tendinous. Now f95 has become a site where you admire picture, if you want to save them you need extra steps.

 

[Bazsa4]

Maybe she'll dye her hair red

Honestly, if you look from far enough, you can see it...

 

[Chillout1984]

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Honestly, if you look from far enough, you can see it...

Nah, she still has more in common with Arieth and Sage than a redheaded Jill

 

[treechild1]

Everything is working on F95 end. Are you using a VPN? I know any images stored on Imgur will not show on here if you are using a VPN.

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No VPN. The images just stopped showing up in a lot of places. I can't even upload a screencap to show you the BaDik front page where the preview pics don't show anymore. Ha... I've cleared browser cache, signed in fresh, checked allowed image settings... I'm at a loss. shrugs

 

[NebulousShooter]

No VPN. The images just stopped showing up in a lot of places. I can't even upload a screencap to show you the BaDik front page where the preview pics don't show anymore. Ha... I've cleared browser cache, signed in fresh, checked allowed image settings... I'm at a loss. shrugs

You need to install codecs that work with their new avif format. That fixed the pictures not showing part for me.

 

[treechild1]

You need to install codecs that work with their new avif format. That fixed the pictures not showing part for me.

Unfortunately, I've got the same problems in multiple browsers AND on my phone. I don't have anymore time right now to mess with this. Thanks anyway guys!