VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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LHDLLB

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My thing is, even if/when you get those lewds, will you be satisfied?

My guy is great at making cinematic stills but the skill of producing quality lewds is undeveloped.

That scene with Miru is pretty much the quality you can expect for everyone else and that scene was about on par with what you'd expect in a bi-weekly NLT update.

I wouldn't compare Daz lewds to HoneySelect lewds, Daz would lose every time, but compare that Miru scene to the lewds in the most recent Race of Life update and you'll see what I mean.
I fully agree. The crazy thing is that is not like Ocean don't know how to do erotica. Old WiaB and even SG had very hot scenes but the scene with Miru, with maybe the excpetion of the gym scene, are all uninspired. I think is propositual to pass the feeling that is a routine sex. Or he just unlearned ?
 

Hellas

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Absolutely!

- People who felt incest was a core part of WiAB got fucked
- People who liked the previous direction of the story got fucked
- People who don't appreciate Mafia themes got fucked
- People who enjoy a coherent narrative got fucked
- People who like NTR got fucked
- People who like sex scenes got fucked
- People who enjoyed the previous connection and dynamics between the Zane family members got fucked

Plenty of people got fucked.

If you mean in game....then no :(
You get one sexy time scene with Miru and that's it.
This is my favourite post since the update released. It's a completely accurate summation of the state of WiAB. It is beautiful. Captivating. Honest. Raw. This is real art.
 

Julius Kingsley

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So I downloaded the game and was ready to play all over again from the start. Then I remembered he removed the incest from SG, which wasn’t a big deal for me since it only concerned one character. But if he removed incest here… what’s the plot?

If I remember correctly, the whole plot is him leaving home because of his sister, then returning for his mom, and the rest of the story is all based on that and the interactions with the family. If you remove that, what’s the story?

Now my question is, did he come up with a new interesting plot to replace that, or did it all go to shit? Because I don’t know if I should play this again or if I’ll just be wasting my time.
 

jadepaladin

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So I downloaded the game and was ready to play all over again from the start. Then I remembered he removed the incest from SG, which wasn’t a big deal for me since it only concerned one character. But if he removed incest here… what’s the plot?

If I remember correctly, the whole plot is him leaving home because of his sister, then returning for his mom, and the rest of the story is all based on that and the interactions with the family. If you remove that, what’s the story?

Now my question is, did he come up with a new interesting plot to replace that, or did it all go to shit? Because I don’t know if I should play this again or if I’ll just be wasting my time.
It's jokingly referred to as "mafia reasons" now. Like he was breaking some kind of rule with his relationship with Leia even though they aren't biologically or legally related. Chapter 4 explains it...not well but it's text on a page I guess.
 

Bikkuri

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Sorry for this question, but is the MC blood related to Leia, or not?
The description talks about MC's twin sister calling him, but during the story, it says that both of their parents (as in 2 separate families) were murdered.
The whole family structure in the game is confusing, to be honest.
 
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jadepaladin

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Sorry for this question, but is the MC blood related to Leia, or not?
The description talks about MC's twin sister calling him, but during the story, it says that both of their parents (as in 2 separate families) were murdered.
The whole family structure in the game is confusing, to be honest.
No, he's not related anymore. Description hasn't been updated since Chapter 4 released. It changed a lot of things.
 
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Sorry for this question, but is the MC blood related to Leia, or not?
The description talks about MC's twin sister calling him, but during the story, it says that both of their parents (as in 2 separate families) were murdered.
The whole family structure in the game is confusing, to be honest.
It no longer references Leia as MC's twin sister, that was in previous releases. Or you're playing with an outdated patch/mod.
 
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Julius Kingsley

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It's jokingly referred to as "mafia reasons" now. Like he was breaking some kind of rule with his relationship with Leia even though they aren't biologically or legally related. Chapter 4 explains it...not well but it's text on a page I guess.
Damn, I bet that ruins the whole vibe of the game. Well, I liked it before, so I’ll play and see for myself if these new changes are something I can get behind.
 

Bikkuri

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No, he's not related anymore. Description hasn't been updated since Chapter 4 released. It changed a lot of things.
Ok, now it makes sense as to why it is confusing. Is there a copy of the original? (I have the GOG version), but I don't use GOG to play.. running Linux and set it up to play the game direct.

Wouldn't the game be smoother if the changes weren't made? Is that what the "Lewd" mod is?

(And thank you for the quick reply!)
 
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That is quite fitting, the story (and in essence the game) is also obsolete now.:LOL:;)
Why do dev's do this lol guess it's time to unwatch and move on to other games were devs have more of a backbone. Come on talk about shooting yourself in the foot this dev put the barrel in his mouth and pulled the trigger:ROFLMAO:

Edit: Dev has a SS account so why remove incest?
 
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jadepaladin

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Ok, now it makes sense as to why it is confusing. Is there a copy of the original? (I have the STEAM version), but I don't use STEAM to play.. running Linux and set i up to play the game direct.

Wouldn't the game be smoother if the changes weren't made? Is that what the "Lewd" mod is?

(And thank you for the quick reply!)
There's a copy of the original version in the OP but that's before even the first rework and is basically a different game.

Not sure if there's a copy of the current version without chapter 4 around.

It's always been a messy story but sure, the story makes more sense if Leia and William are related. Unless Ocean changes his mind and reworks the story again, this is what we're stuck with. I don't use any mods with it other than URM so not sure what any of the mods here would do.
 
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Bikkuri

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It no longer references Leia as MC's twin sister, that was in previous releases. Or you're playing with an outdated patch/mod.
I was going by what descriptions I could find through an internet search. GOG itself doesn't say anything helpful, except something about mafia and it's about a crime family.
 

Turret

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Why do dev's do this lol guess it's time to unwatch and move on to other games were devs have more of a backbone. Come on talk about shooting yourself in the foot this dev put the barrel in his mouth and pulled the trigger:ROFLMAO:
Fitting analogy. Maybe Ocean wants to terminate WIAB, but needs an excuse for himself. "The players abandoned the game" sounds better than admitting to yourself you made a complete abyssal update.
 
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