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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Science Of Lust [Intro] [Tora Productions]

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iksanabot

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any lop games for example have some hard fetishes, like (gang bang , cheating, swings etc)
in seducing the throne they were kinda "free minded womans" (i dont like calling a woman whore or that kind of Word but damm... that game did have some scenes a bit too much for those of us that like more vanilla games)
and i was replying to mortze (the games he said him and his friend worked, dunno if tora worked on them)
Yeah, I wrote a lot of LOP games, and most of the games I wrote for them had scenes with group sex. I do plan on having some group sex in this series as well, but I want to portray that kind of stuff realistically, and with respect for all involved. For the really niche fetishes like NTR and bukake, the player will really have to move the game in that direction with a lot of choices that suggest that is what the player is trying to make happen. It won't sneak up on you.
 
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iksanabot

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Renders are good. Story is pretty cliche. MC is definately a beta although it sounds like we can change his personality more towards an alpha (though your either born with an A type personality or your not).

But from the devs past works I can guarantee you will eventually see NTR in some form or another (avoidable or not who knows at this point).

I am sure some will like this game but I have played enough games where the MC is a weakling and heard enough devs try to say "he can change" to know it wont. So this is gonna get a hard pass by me.

Most people arent badasses in real life and look to games to not be reminded of the parts of themselves they may not like so not having a strong MC is going to limit how popular your game will be. Just food for thought.

Good luck (y)
Fair enough, your opinion is valid, but in this case it's wrong. Look at my other writing. I have never written a weak MC. My MCs get tons of pussy, usually by going after what they want. Try the Living with Temptation series.

'nuff said.
 
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iksanabot

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This was funny lol, I liked it a lot. And I was curious how Serena would fit into this picture considering the events of Saving Chloe, especially considering she was my favorite of that story. I'm glad this intro made the timeline clear. Tlaero had been a big inspiration of mine for a few years now, so it really hurt to see her retire the name. But Mortze is still here delivering the only way he knows how and iksanabot wrote my favorite LOP game LWT (didn't care much for the sequel because it felt too rushed but I'm looking forward to the expansion later this year)

But I really like this so far. Tora P. is left in good hands if this new partnership is anything to go by.

The only thing I'd say I didn't like was the animations. If the animations aren't legitimate, I don't think you need to loop 2 images to simulate animations such as that last BJ scene. A lot of Ren'Py games do that already, but it never did sit well with me personally. I say either animate it properly, or leave the scene as a still image.
Thanks ChainZero!
I've read valid criticism about the animations several times here. Mortze and I will confer and see what we can do to improve it moving forward.
 

Hyped

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I don't mind making fun of myself here - this surprised me, because I thought I was kind of famous in the adult game world.

Hyped , I am iksanabot, the writer, and I am coding the game too. I wrote a bunch of games for Lesson of Passion, most notably, Living with Temptation, Living with Temptation:Wife Gone Wilder, Living with Temptation: Foreign Affairs, and Seducing the Throne. Both LWT2 and STT have expansions coming out (this year, I think).
Good luck with the project. Looks promising.
 

TheKryptonian

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Fair enough, your opinion is valid, but in this case it's wrong. Look at my other writing. I have never written a weak MC. My MCs get tons of pussy, usually by going after what they want. Try the Living with Temptation series.

'nuff said.
Interesting. I guess your never writing a weak MC has come to an end in this then. From what I can tell so far the MC in this is looking to be a huge pussy "so far".

Time will tell and like I said good luck mate (y)
 

iksanabot

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Interesting. I guess your never writing a weak MC has come to an end in this then. From what I can tell so far the MC in this is looking to be a huge pussy "so far".

Time will tell and like I said good luck mate (y)
Sure, time will tell. Come back and check on us again.

Thanks for your interest!
 

ThunderRob

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hmmm..have to agree with Sarah i deserved it simply because Lily is so effin ugly i wanna keep away from that "thing" by accepting i'm tsktsk..lol..ugh..blonde with thot hair...absolute lowest of the lows..HAHAA
 

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Tlaero and I made Dreaming with Elsa, Redemption for Jessika, Finding Miranda, Saving Chloe and Darkness Falls, as wells as coming to Grips with Christine and Pandora and iksanabot wrote games at Lesson of Passion like Living with Temptation, the first Living with Temptation expansion: Wife Gone Wilder, Living with Temptation 2: Foreign Affairs and Seducing the Throne
Welcome Morze! I'm really happy to see you here.
I've not gave the introduction a try yet, but I definitely will. The renders are impressive, you get better as the days go by.
I can't wait to see what you guys have in mind for this game. I read Iksanabot's tales on literotica and I found them amazing.
Good luck with the project, I'll keep an eye on it.
Is this game located in the Elsaverse?
 

ThunderRob

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finished the intro..it was pretty good..
the good : Sarah the ginger and the depressed lass are cuties and hopefully at least one of them is a romantic pursuit..there was zero engrish or spelling issues..so was a clear easy read..was able to name the MC(so important to me) choices seem to matter(also important..choices just to make you think you are actually playing piss me off..choices with impact are a must have..thanks) the flow is good and the art itself is generally topnotch.
the bad: MC's dick looks like a mangled kielbasa and creeped me TF out..lol..i hope to hell i can avoid Lily..she is horrifyingly ugly..LOL and finally..it is almost biologically impossible to avoid shrinkage in a cold shower..so either tag it as supernatural or LOL
i'll keep following :p
 

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Our idea for this game is that you will be able to customize the player's personality. That is, when making dialogue choices, certain choices will affect personality statistics. Each girl has a personality she prefers, so you get a relationship bonus with a girl for displaying the personality she likes. In addition, sometimes options in the game will not be available if it goes too far against past choices. However, you will always be able to make new choices to move your personality back in a direction that gives you the option that you want.

I might not have explained this clearly, but it will be explained very clearly in episode one when you actually define your character's personality early in the game (at least, the personality starting point).
Thanks hun.
 

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I'm in agreement with The Rob of Thunder. I'm not here for the dick, but MC's dick is repulsively unnatural. Not because he has the all too common horsedick either, I think you would call it the textures that look pretty rough.

I assume that Lilly and Sarah were probably the first girls created because their models are not to the same standards as the rest. And while having natural looking girls is a good thing, Lilly's complexion may be taking it a bit too far.Otherwise, Mortze's art is as excellent as ever. If I had to choose, Jordyn is probably the most appealing.

Kind of agree with other post about too much narration, but it's not a big concern. The bit of story and the situations we have so far are pretty fun and am looking forward to more!
 

thereaper27

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Well... i didn't played iksanabot works before but i did love tora production games especially for the story... so this intro is kind of under of what i've expected, the whole "embarassing boner" kind of anime scene is funny when it's short(unlike him). but i still want to see how the story gonna evolve hoping that iksanabot can write as good as tlaero
 

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I appreciate your input but my opinion is that you don't understand quite well what it is to play as a strong character, where strength isn't reduced only to libido, muscles and male domination, at least for the games Tlaero wrote. anyone is entitled to his/her opinion though and what I can suggest is to anyone to go play the games and make up their own mind about what's real strength of character and of a character.
Lol. Often with that type of people their first sentence already tells you everything you need to know.

Don't worry, most of us know the quality of your games.

I'm happy to see what you and iksanabot cooked up.
The only thing I really regret is the reasoning behind Tlaero's decision to stop making these games and how unfair it felt towards you.
 
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The transitions kept tricking me into thinking that there was just a picture with no text, but then the text would pop just as I hit the spacebar to continue. So I kept having to roll back because I was just a little bit too impatient. Turning them off made the game flow better and I could still just hit the H button whenever I wanted to get a better look at a scene.

I have some difficulty learning peoples names at the best of times, so the lack of names on the dialogue box is making things a bit harder than usual for me. So that one conversation at the park had me stuck for a few seconds trying to figure out which one was Lily and which one was Sarah. I got it right though, and managed to side with Sarah.

Jordyn is my favourite so far, and not just because she's the most beautiful woman in the game. So hopefully we'll be able to complete our project well enough to impress her, instead of just running around like a total spaz who's hell bent on embarrassing himself all over town.

The game looks like it could be interesting, but I've got a foreboding feeling that the main character is going to be forced to see the girls he likes get plowed by someone else. I'll give it a go anyways, just in case I'm wrong.

I do plan on having some group sex in this series as well
Oh, well... damn. I guess maybe it's better to just skip this game after all.
 

Kendra Denimore

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I assume that since at least two of the devs for this have joined the convo... I can be honest.
I've played some of the other games, both the Toro Prod. and the LoP ones mentioned. They were very good, and mosly enjoyable, with decent images and writing. Having said that, the images that were selected for the OP kinda don't impress me in the least. I'd actually say that they nearly turn me away from the game entirely. However, I will put this on watch, and see what the first update looks like, and hopefully I'll be surprised. Other than that, Good Luck to the devs, and I hope that we see good things coming from this new collaboration!
 

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Favourite Girl - Lily
Least Favourite Girl - None, I like them all.... I like girls.....I would even do the chubby in the right hand shower stall
Favourite Scene - Library
Least Favourite Scene - Coffee Shop .....

no real comments on line of dialog or image....although I liked the fit girl in the shower a lot.

One of my favourite ( Canadian/English spelling) games is "Redemption For Jessika". I just came across it last week and need to play the other games by the same developers. I haven't looked at LOP games for years. I am looking forward to this game continuing.
 
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iksanabot

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hoping that iksanabot can write as good as tlaero
Thanks for playing! I can't write as good as tlaero - at least not in her style. Our work will be different, but hopefully you will end up liking it a lot.

soleroth I know, right? Mortze nearly knocked me off my chair when he sent those images.

Alfred the Fallen: Yeah, I was worried about those transitions and am still trying to find the right balance. I just feel like Mortze's images deserve the full-screen treatment for at least a second. I think for the full game, I will usually let the textbox appear right away, and only use a delayed textbox when the image really demands it (for example when stuff is happening at the bottom of the screen, like when MC is doing exercises with Mackenzie).

And, really? Any possibility of group sex sends you away? What if it is FFM?


Kendra Denimore Thanks for the well-wishing. I'm hoping you will be pleasantly surprised too. And FYI, there are only two devs, me and Mortze.
 
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I like the Tora games (except for Saving Chloe) and the LOP ones in which iksanabot participates, so I'm really interested to see how this mix works out. It being a Ren'Py game is a good sign for me.

We don't know much about the story and the characters yet, but so far I haven't disliked anything.
Visually it looks great, the only things that I found "strange" were MC's dick (especially in the bedroom scene) and the kind of film grain(?) in the first scene, I think Tora games have a lot of that too.

It's also cool to see that the creators are engaging so much here.
I'll be watching this one closely.
 
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