So, just to clarify, as long as a developer "keeps in contact" or doesn't give official notice of the games cancellation, a game will stay strictly on hold. No matter how long the game sits without being updated, or how high the number of missed deadlines gets. Years can pass, and it would still be "On Hold"? That's very generous.
Yes. There are plenty of games out there (especially kickstarter, nutaku or other non patreon based games) which can release a demo then nothing until the full game releases, months, even years later.
Apparently your rules need an upper bound on the ONHOLD tag (1.5/2 years maybe?). Posting a message on some social platform is a very low barrier that in no way guarantees any continued work. As the other person said, do the rules even consider the possibility of a perpetual ONHOLD tag? what about a new tag? ONHOLD tag for devs who stop payments or are sick is not the same as ONHOLD for being a scam.
We're not going to break our rules over the shady practices of a single developer.
We don't usually put any kind of message in OPs relating to abandonment issues, the only other instances I can recall are some Slonique games.
I really doubt he's getting too much support from anyone on F95 at this point... and if you somehow are crazy enough to ignore the on hold and potentially abandoned tag that's on you lol. I actually love checking in on the madness of this thread!
Well, I think you should reconsider your rules. I predict it will get more obvious with time as more scammers show up.
I think people must think F95 is the adult games police, and as soon as we add an abandoned tag, the developer loses all patrons.Why is it such a big deal to put the abandoned tag on it is the real question?
Slonique is far less obvious so needs more of a warning; producing games then abandoning them after a couple of updates is harder to track vs a single game that has a massive warning, an on hold prefix, and a clear "last update" date in the OP.
That's a valid point, yet quite easy to avoid (make multiple "remakes", claim to be working on a "massive years-long" update, work on multiple projects at the same time while never really abandoning any single one, etc.). I still think a little more could be done. A new tag marking games which suffer from chronic missed self-imposed deadlines for more than 1/1.5 year could help.
i cant say specifically to this situation, but in general, allowing exceptions to a rule for someone or something will lead to others also wanting exceptions to rules.Why is it such a big deal to put the abandoned tag on it is the real question?
This is gold.
Will be good to see that top ten list admins loljust out of curiosity, i wonder how many are "ignoring" JT. i think he must be a record holder on f95zone
Look at his history for the past months @
Welcome to the end-of-month reality of Patreon...
If you're not being paid already you may as well consult Gumdrops on getting a wage sorted for you. The amount of hours you put in defending him you may as well try make a quick buck.
What defense would that be? Refute bullshit you don't even buy into yourself? Agreeing with you on what is actual facts? That GD proven all by himself, geeeze.
Put down the shield for five minutes josh, lol, even half hearted jokes got you ready to try strike me and the others down, half expect a battle cry to scream out "For GUMDROPSSSSS!!"What defense would that be? Refute bullshit you don't even buy into yourself? Agreeing with you on what is actual facts? That GD proven all by himself, geeeze.
And what do you know. If someone tell me to sod off, I might tell them to keep play their tiny tune too.
