Nenad A.

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Speaking of NTR. can someone explain to me cause I really never understood that concept (when it comes to adult games anyway). People who dislike NTR and actually bitch about it... do they watch porn? I mean... if so, isn't that also NTR? Girl they like is having sex with some other man (porn actor) not with them. How is that different then watching some guy in game have sex with their fav girl character?
 

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Speaking of NTR. can someone explain to me cause I really never understood that concept (when it comes to adult games anyway). People who dislike NTR and actually bitch about it... do they watch porn? I mean... if so, isn't that also NTR? Girl they like is having sex with some other man (porn actor) not with them. How is that different then watching some guy in game have sex with their fav girl character?
I don't like NTR but rarely bitch about it unless it's with a character that I really like. I do watch porn but prefer POV porn the most haha. Imo most pornstars are just not that attractive enough to me so I don't care about that much
 
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Speaking of NTR. can someone explain to me cause I really never understood that concept (when it comes to adult games anyway). People who dislike NTR and actually bitch about it... do they watch porn? I mean... if so, isn't that also NTR? Girl they like is having sex with some other man (porn actor) not with them. How is that different then watching some guy in game have sex with their fav girl character?
It's totally different. In a movie, book or game, you identify yourself with a character, usually the main one, so if that character has sex with a woman, it's like you're having sex with her. If any other character has sex with that girl then it's NTR.
 

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I am not saying people need to like it... Just, why would adult, mature human really bitch about NTR in games? I saw those a lot. Seems immature behavior to me. I understand that people may like some character from game, that part is clear to me. But would mature reaction be like: "damn, I did not like NTR with this character" and move on or simply stop playing, then "WTF??? NTR WARNING!!! FUCKING SHIT GAME!!!!" I sort of have feeling this things are not written by actual adults. But I might be wrong there are many different behaviors even with adults... I know one thing for sure tho, NTR haters are missing a bunch of fun by not watching Tinto Brass movies (it's filled with NTR) :p
 

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I am not saying people need to like it... Just, why would adult, mature human really bitch about NTR in games? I saw those a lot. Seems immature behavior to me. I understand that people may like some character from game, that part is clear to me. But would mature reaction be like: "damn, I did not like NTR with this character" and move on or simply stop playing, then "WTF??? NTR WARNING!!! FUCKING SHIT GAME!!!!" I sort of have feeling this things are not written by actual adults. But I might be wrong there are many different behaviors even with adults... I know one thing for sure tho, NTR haters are missing a bunch of fun by not watching Tinto Brass movies (it's filled with NTR) :p
It triggers some people. They vehemently despise it.

I didn't understand it either, until I saw something someone posted that triggered me. I almost ignored that person so I didn't have to see that thing. But I found a better solution (hooray uBlock Origin). Now, even though NTR in games doesn't trigger me, I understand how people feel.
 

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Yo lame dev, are you trying to make your way for adding Tinto Brass style character into the game and let him fuck all the girls in the game while Willy watching him crying? NTR WARNING!!!

Looks like making us walk and walk and walk and... was not enough now he's trying to find alternative torture methods. WTF???

What kind of a depraved mind you have! Now be a good dev and add running, teleportation, flying. Also as I said before convert game to the both Ren'Py, Unity and RPGM, then add android and IOS versions, then make your game TINY like willy's dick, learn to COMPRESS!!!!! And let Willy KILL ALL OTHER GUYS in the game!! FUCKING SHIT GAME!!!!

That's it, I'll stop my $100 patronage immediately!!!!
 

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Yo lame dev, are you trying to make your way for adding Tinto Brass style character into the game and let him fuck all the girls in the game while Willy watching him crying? NTR WARNING!!!

Looks like making us walk and walk and walk and... was not enough now he's trying to find alternative torture methods. WTF???

What kind of a depraved mind you have! Now be a good dev and add running, teleportation, flying. Also as I said before convert game to the both Ren'Py, Unity and RPGM, then add android and IOS versions, then make your game TINY like willy's dick, learn to COMPRESS!!!!! And let Willy KILL ALL OTHER GUYS in the game!! FUCKING SHIT GAME!!!!

That's it, I'll stop my $100 patronage immediately!!!!
You forgot to ask me to add rotation of sex scenes... I mean everyone knows that 2D pictures can be rotated, right? Who cares if it's 2D, rotation is a MUST!
 

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I am not saying people need to like it... Just, why would adult, mature human really bitch about NTR in games? I saw those a lot. Seems immature behavior to me. I understand that people may like some character from game, that part is clear to me. But would mature reaction be like: "damn, I did not like NTR with this character" and move on or simply stop playing, then "WTF??? NTR WARNING!!! FUCKING SHIT GAME!!!!" I sort of have feeling this things are not written by actual adults. But I might be wrong there are many different behaviors even with adults... I know one thing for sure tho, NTR haters are missing a bunch of fun by not watching Tinto Brass movies (it's filled with NTR) :p
People are selfish prick in general and it's worse on the internet. Because it's anonymous people feel like they can say anything and they usually do.

But I can understand the anger when the tag isn't put because it can ruin a game you like. It's fine if you play 30 minutes and then NTR (or another fetish) appears. You can say "shit, there's NTR. I'm done here". But what happens when you play the game for hours and have waited months between updates and suddenly there's NTR (or another fetish you don't like) appearing in the game out of the blue? You invest yourself emotionally in a game for months, maybe even years, and suddenly something you hate comes out. You have the right to be furious if you haven't been notified in advance. Movies, books and games are means to escape reality and be in a perfect world for you. If that world is ruined it can be infuriating.

I remember a series of book I read a while back. The first one was brilliant but the seond one was a little worse but I thought themale MC and the female MC would find each other and be a couple and that would have made the book a good one, everything bad that happened would lead to this. They did get together for a bit but the the female MC went for another guy, the male MC's nemesis. The male MC was the kind of guy the girl fantasised about whereas the other guy was everything she hated. Plus the story didn't built the thing and it happened suddenly. It ruined the books for me. And I was pissed something bad.

That's why putting something unexpected in your game can be a brilliant stroke of genius but more often than not it will a bad thing. If that involves minor characters it won't have a huge impact but if it involves main characters then the game is ruined.
 
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To be fair, i'd say that NTR can be annoying especially when you're not warned and if it's absolutely not your fetish.
I mean... don't you guys have a fetish you don't like at all ? (rape, futa etc.)
Same here, a lot of people on f95 hate NTR (idk a word stronger than "hate"), if they don't see the tag anywhere on the thread and see it in the game, it can ruin a good mood.

On the other side, i'm a NTR hater and still, i wasn't annoyed by the only scene that occurred (Carlos ft Skye in front of the pool), because you turned that into a threesome (so no more humiliation for Willy, which is something that's often annoying the NTR haters) and because considering Willy, it's not like he's building a slow and emotional relationship with the 40-45 girls of the game (i lost the count lol), he's just fucking and cucking other guys.

That's the main point in my opinion, NTR in Willy (which is clearly a porn game, a true one) isn't the same thing as NTR in a VN like Melody, Babysitter and other games like these mostly based on their stories (and some animations and good renders for the best ones).
Here, there is no need to go on rampage mode because another guy took a girl you fucked only once, 15 updates ago, because there shouldn't be any emotional investment, there isn't enough matter for that.

Anyway, maybe adding the tag on the thread could be better, this way, no more complains (there will be complains of course, but at least there will be a warning, although i think it's totally pointless imo, considering the scene here).
 

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well, when I see a fetish that I don't like (personally futas) I just keep skipping that part untill it's over... In this game everything is basically optional If you don't like NTR don't complain and just skip those part reading the walkthrough.
 

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On the other side, i'm a NTR hater and still, i wasn't annoyed by the only scene that occurred (Carlos ft Skye in front of the pool), because you turned that into a threesome (so no more humiliation for Willy, which is something that's often annoying the NTR haters) and because considering Willy, it's not like he's building a slow and emotional relationship with the 40-45 girls of the game (i lost the count lol), he's just fucking and cucking other guys.
The big problem with that scene (IMO) is the threesome scene was added several releases after Carlos fucked Skye at the pool. So for a long time you couldn't turn it into a threesome.
 

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Guys who put their emotions in porn games are pathetic if you ask me. For people who are getting triggered by some fetish like NTR, move on. The worst thing that will happens is that your boner will fade for a few seconds.
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You're a robot? We are human so we put emotion in everything we do. What's the point of playing a porn game if you do not feel joy and lust when you play it? Sure you're not going to invest heavy emotion like IRL but you still invest some.
 
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The big problem with that scene (IMO) is the threesome scene was added several releases after Carlos fucked Skye at the pool. So for a long time you couldn't turn it into a threesome.
Nope. Check again. 0.26 Willy first time go to miss Skye (with Carlos there) and same update at the end 3 some happens.
 
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Nope. Check again. 0.26 Willy first time go to miss Skye (with Carlos there) and same update at the end 3 some happens.
I don't remember it that way, but I think you have a tiny bit more cred than I do on what's in the game! :p
 
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