VN Ren'Py Triple Ex [v0.22] [Azrayal]

[DA22]

He doesn't have character, he has strings like a bloody muppet.

Yeah and he seems to be regressing, it is all about Debs feelings, Deb does and MC has no feelings, sadness anger agitation or whatever while he has shitloads of reasons to be angry even without knowing about the betrayals. But no, MC has to be nice to everybody and understanding of their needs. Hell if I were him in that situation I would be howling in frustration and wanting to go on a killing spree, starting with my saintly ex-wive. Let him explode once at least and demand respect for the fact he is also a living being and not just a sacrificial lamb.

 

[preskerd]

Lol is this game's main character is Deb? I think mods should change the tag to 'female protag' at this point lol. Why the hell a npc character gets more action than the actual main character? I think even 2.5 stars at the reviews generous for this kind writing and content. If you want to make a harem game with a female protag go do that dude. It's not forbidden to make yuri games. Just don't bait people with a male protag

 

[Paapi]

Add a bit more action against deb. My mc totally tired of her

 

[TundraLupus]

Yeah, but did she marry woman? Because from my knowledge, the MC married the woman not Deb, unlike when the MC is allowed to fuck his own daughter, I'm I right?

They were both in the wrong, the Mc should have talked about having a more open relationship from the start, but i understand why he wouldn't as it wasn't socially acceptable until my generation came along and said "hey, you assholes, let people be happy and stop judging" and even so it is slow progress, besides that he cheated and she cheated and both hid it, so they were both in the wrong, Deb had no responsibility to be faithful to either so I don't blame her.

Nothing sexual? Are you fucking serious? Did you even play the game? Jesus.
Bro he didn't even tell the truth , what did he do to deserve years in the military jail? Yeah, the pot calls kettle black.
Scapegoating? Trying to blame somone else? I'm stright up saying that MC is a dipshit, and he deserve everything that the world hurled at him. What a fucking joke .

About the nothing sexual, those were thoughts, don't judge people by their thoughts but by their actions.

About the jail, have we played the same game? It was said and shown that the MC is not a bad guy, that he tries to do the right thing, yeas he was a shitty father and husband because he got obsessed with exposing or uncovering some fucked up shit in the army(Which is plausible since the army is known for covering up rapes, drug trafficking, people trafficking and more in most of the world because of the whole brotherhood thing, they cover each other back), so far we have nothing that says the Mc wasn't wrongfully arrested, hell even high command and members of his old team concur on this, so your conclusion is ignoring most of the background and story so far to feed your bias, as a lot of people do to Deb.

I'll also tackle your old comment about him grooming his sister, first, your definition is wrong, this is the official one " the action by a pedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an Internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense.", second, as far as I remember they were both minors about the same age, and it was consensual, but I might be wrong, I don't remember him, knowing at least, trying to actively make her his, hell as adults he is the one that tried and failed to end their sexual relationship, so again, you are imputing your bias on the character, so far most of what happened has happened to the Mc which is a big complaint in the forum, most of the time the woman come to him and not the opposite.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

They were both in the wrong, the Mc should have talked about having a more open relationship from the start, but i understand why he wouldn't as it wasn't socially acceptable until my generation came along and said "hey, you assholes, let people be happy and stop judging" and even so it is slow progress, besides that he cheated and she cheated and both hid it, so they were both in the wrong, Deb had no responsibility to be faithful to either so I don't blame her.

Agree with a good bit of what you posted. Except for this. Like seriously, you don't have a long term affair with your siblings spouse. It's just a shitty thing to do. If the spouse is that upset, commiserate with them, tell them to get a divorce. DON'T FUCK THEM!!!! That's just shitty.

 

[Rinbael]

Agree with a good bit of what you posted. Except for this. Like seriously, you don't have a long term affair with your siblings spouse. It's just a shitty thing to do. If the spouse is that upset, commiserate with them, tell them to get a divorce. DON'T FUCK THEM!!!! That's just shitty.

You just answered your own question Deb is a shitty person. So it isn't surprising that she fucked her brother's wife behind his back and taunts him about it.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

You just answered your own question Deb is a shitty person. So it isn't surprising that she fucked her brother's wife behind his back and taunts him about it.

I'm with you I was contesting the Deb has no responsibility to the MC to not fuck his spouse.

Yes Deb is the worst.

 

[Real Kreten]

First, I saw a statement about MC death or unimportunateness in the story. MC plays the role of a comedic sidekick and as such he is therefore important to the story and immortal. He's actually a mix of Hercules and Joxer.

I liked the last update. We got a few smiles of Milly. One headshot of Deb and we spent a lovely time at the mansion of one Japanese family away from Deb. Milly and Kumiko looked beautiful as ever.

But I found one disappointment. I took lying of Deb about the contact between her, Maria and Milly as a tool for a potential reversal in the dynamics of relationships between central characters. Instead, it was swept under the carpet in connection with the strange behavior of the characters. It almost seems as if the author did not create this tool deliberately to change the pace of the story, but it was a mistake in previous events.

 

[TundraLupus]

Agree with a good bit of what you posted. Except for this. Like seriously, you don't have a long term affair with your siblings spouse. It's just a shitty thing to do. If the spouse is that upset, commiserate with them, tell them to get a divorce. DON'T FUCK THEM!!!! That's just shitty.

I agree that is what I wrote, they were both in the wrong, they both cheated, and both were long term, what I meant was, if you feel like you can't have a monogamous relationship you should talk to your partner about having an open one, and if that is not an option then yes get a divorce, but the "open" part wasn't, and still isn't really accepted by society, so as I said, I can see where it came from, but I don't agree with it, that was actually the whole point.

But no, Deb has no responsibility here, if that is what you mean, yeah i can agree that it was a shitty thing, but she wasn't the one in a monogamous relationship, she wasn't the one that made vows to be faithful, should she have talked to her brother about it? Yes, but the Mc has no right to be angry since he was cheating on his spouse and doing the same shit, that is just being a hypocrite.

Edit: And so I'm clear, being a hypocrite is not a good thing.

 

[Famescua]

As far as I can see the dev fell into the same trap as the dev of "Altered Destiny" He wanted the people to kinda hate Deb so that later once everything was revealed, you would say ok I get it now she wasn't that bad, but just like the other dev he put to much stock in the story that only he knows. The people only see what has been told so far and alot of people don't even want to give her a chance because of what she does. Only way to change that is if Deb suddenly has an epiphany and realizes that she is a grade A bitch and changes fast. In Altered Destiny the dev rewrote the mistake to make it so that person wasn't hated as much. Im not saying rewrite the story. Im just stating what happened in the other thread with similar characters. Because the other character is kinda like Deb, in that she always ducks up but the mc forgives her and nothing else is said.i could say more but if you go read the posts of the other game you will see basically the same scenario, where the side character has more impact on the story than the mc.

 

[DA22]

Agree with a good bit of what you posted. Except for this. Like seriously, you don't have a long term affair with your siblings spouse. It's just a shitty thing to do. If the spouse is that upset, commiserate with them, tell them to get a divorce. DON'T FUCK THEM!!!! That's just shitty.

Also as was shown in that scene between deb and the wive, Deb was a long time friend of her as MC was before the wedding and Deb had lusted after her for a long time.

Now normally I say it is indeed up to the married couple to stay faithful if they made that agreement and not the third party. Deb as both sister to one and best friend to other was no longer a third party though in either her relation with her brother or the ex. She had a relation and obligations to both of them.

Also actually MC was not very upset over Deb having a relation with his wive, he preferred it over another men, but the fact she kept it quiet to him and lied about it was a point of contention.

 

[eddie987]

I agree that is what I wrote, they were both in the wrong, they both cheated, and both were long term, what I meant was, if you feel like you can't have a monogamous relationship you should talk to your partner about having an open one, and if that is not an option then yes get a divorce, but the "open" part wasn't, and still isn't really accepted by society, so as I said, I can see where it came from, but I don't agree with it, that was actually the whole point.

But no, Deb has no responsibility here, if that is what you mean, yeah i can agree that it was a shitty thing, but she wasn't the one in a monogamous relationship, she wasn't the one that made vows to be faithful, should she have talked to her brother about it? Yes, but the Mc has no right to be angry since he was cheating on his spouse and doing the same shit, that is just being a hypocrite.

At some point it was said that they (the MC and Jake, and yes I wrote that on purpose) promised that they'd never lie to each other. As we've seen, Deb has been doing nothing else but lying to him, right in his face or behind his back, it doesn't really matter to her as long as she gets what she wants. I don't know about you, but for me repeatedly breaking your promise to your sibling, for whom you keep declaring your love (but never actually show it with actions, because that would mean doing something without getting anything in return and Deb can't have anything like that happening) is worse than cheating on someone. People cheat, relationships end. Family is forever, unless of course they are backstabbing cunts like Deb...

 

[DA22]

I'm with you I was contesting the Deb has no responsibility to the MC to not fuck his spouse.

Yes Deb is the worst.

Uhm so you think that if I went to bed with the wive of one of my brothers, my brothers would not see that as a betrayal of their trust in me? Well you clearly never met my brothers. You do not go to bed with wives of your family or best friends unless they specifically ask you to and even then things get strange easily.

 

[TundraLupus]

At some point it was said that they (the MC and Jake, and yes I wrote that on purpose) promised that they'd never lie to each other. As we've seen, Deb has been doing nothing else but lying to him, right in his face or behind his back, it doesn't really matter to her as long as she gets what she wants. I don't know about you, but for me repeatedly breaking your promise to your sibling, for whom you keep declaring your love (but never actually show it with actions, because that would mean doing something without getting anything in return and Deb can't have anything like that happening) is worse than cheating on someone. People cheat, relationships end. Family is forever, unless of course they are backstabbing cunts like Deb...

Yeah, no fuck family, family is not forever, and for a lot of people they are the worst people in the world, so fuck that, but going back, I never said it wasn't a shitty thing, and as I said to my character she screwed up only once so far, but since my character cheated, and lied, and hid things, it doesn't change the fact that being angry about it is being a hypocrite, may I remember you that the Mc is hiding what got him into jail? and that he also was going to plant cameras and either lie or hide the truth? asking someone to be 100% truthful all the time is unrealistic, so far what has she gotten that the Mc hasn't? she got to cheat with the Mc's wife the same way he cheated on his wife with her, she hid information about his daughter for the same reason he hides information about his past, they both think they are doing what is best for each other, and both are idiots for doing so, the whole reason she hid the stuff about his daughter was so he would focus on that instead of the conspiracy that got him in jail and almost killed, the whole reason he hides what exactly that was is because it would probably get her imprisoned or killed, so again, my point stands.

 

[DA22]

Yeah, no fuck family, family is not forever, and for a lot of people they are the worst people in the world, so fuck that, but going back, I never said it wasn't a shitty thing, and as I said to my character she screwed up only once so far, but since my character cheated, and lied, and hid things, it doesn't change the fact that being angry about it is being a hypocrite, may I remember you that the Mc is hiding what got him into jail? and that he also was going to plant cameras and either lie or hide the truth? asking someone to be 100% truthful all the time is unrealistic, so far what has she gotten that the Mc hasn't? she got to cheat with the Mc's wife the same way he cheated on his wife with her, she hid information about his daughter for the same reason he hides information about his past, they both think they are doing what is best for each other, and both are idiots for doing so, the whole reason she hid the stuff about his daughter was so he would focus on that instead of the conspiracy that got him in jail and almost killed, the whole reason he hides what exactly that was is because it would probably get her imprisoned or killed, so again, my point stands.

Your point fails on the fact that what she hid was way more hurtful not only to MC, but Milly as well. Besides he was not only family but her lover as well. She had other options both for him and Milly even without tellling where Milly exactly was.

Besides i have the feeling Deb has been played as badly in the end as MC was by someone that knew her weaknesses and childishness well and her lusts and that the real antagonist is the ex wife as I said a few updates ago. That all her betrayals and the damage will be revealed by ex to MC to do maximum damage to their relation so both Deb and MC will lose all they care for including Milly. Now I do dislike Deb, but in her psycho way her brother is the most important person for her and losing him will hurt her badly.

 

[eddie987]

Yeah, no fuck family, family is not forever, and for a lot of people they are the worst people in the world, so fuck that, but going back, I never said it wasn't a shitty thing, and as I said to my character she screwed up only once so far, but since my character cheated, and lied, and hid things, it doesn't change the fact that being angry about it is being a hypocrite, may I remember you that the Mc is hiding what got him into jail? and that he also was going to plant cameras and either lie or hide the truth? asking someone to be 100% truthful all the time is unrealistic, so far what has she gotten that the Mc hasn't? she got to cheat with the Mc's wife the same way he cheated on his wife with her, she hid information about his daughter for the same reason he hides information about his past, they both think they are doing what is best for each other, and both are idiots for doing so, the whole reason she hid the stuff about his daughter was so he would focus on that instead of the conspiracy that got him in jail and almost killed, the whole reason he hides what exactly that was is because it would probably get her imprisoned or killed, so again, my point stands.

You can't be 100% truthful, I agree with that, but the fact that you bang someone's wife, or know the whereabout of his daughter (when her loss is something that's eating him alive for year), is not the same with not talking about something that doesn't involve the other person. You can't equate not telling someone something about your past, that doesn't have anything to do with them, with fucking his wife behind his back. Have they both fucked up? Yes. But comparing the MC's fuck ups with Deb's is like comparing jaywalking with armed robbery...

 

[TundraLupus]

Your point fails on the fact that what she hid was way more hurtful not only to MC, but Milly as well. Besides he was not only family but her lover as well. She had other options both for him and Milly even without tellling where Milly exactly was.

Besides i have the feeling Deb has been played as badly in the end as MC was by someone that knew her weaknesses and childishness well and her lusts and that the real antagonist is the ex wife as I said a few updates ago. That all her betrayals and the damage will be revealed by ex to MC to do maximum damage to their relation so both Deb and MC will lose all they care for including Milly. Now I do dislike Deb, but in her psycho way her brother is the most important person for her and losing him will hurt her badly.

Yeah, that is why I called both of them idiots, everything that happened is because the mc hid stuff, and then stuff was hidden from him, you don't see the parallel that is formed here? His action or inaction had consequences that mirrored them, that is why everything is happening the way it is because he is an idiot that thinks hiding stuff protects others, so do the ex and Deb.

 

[TundraLupus]

You can't be 100% truthful, I agree with that, but the fact that you bang someone's wife, or know the whereabout of his daughter (when her loss is something that's eating him alive for year), is not the same with not talking about something that doesn't involve the other person. You can't equate not telling someone something about your past, that doesn't have anything to do with them, with fucking his wife behind his back. Have they both fucked up? Yes. But comparing the MC's fuck ups with Deb's is like comparing jaywalking with armed robbery...

Already answered someone about a similar point, this is about the parallel between his action and other peoples, they all think they are protecting each other when they are actually hunting each other, if you can't see how his obsession hurt his family and himself and drove them to do what they did, well, that is you, as I said though Deb is in the wrong either way, she should have talked to him, but if doing that would result on him getting himself killed, I can see why she didn't.

 

[DA22]

Yeah, that is why I called both of them idiots, everything that happened is because the mc hid stuff, and then stuff was hidden from him, you don't see the parallel that is formed here? His action or inaction had consequences that mirrored them, that is why everything is happening the way it is because he is an idiot that thinks hiding stuff protects others, so do the ex and Deb.

Yeah that ex wife doing everything she can and manipulates everyone into a situation that causes maximum emotional hurt for MC and those he trusts and loves and fucks up his life with maximum effect can hardly be an accident. With that kind of love you better surround yourself with people who hate you.

Me I think she did it all on purpose and planned it, being even prepared to emotionally disfigure her daughter to get her revenge on MC. I suspect she with help of the senator she married was even behind the setup of MC in the first place.

 

[TundraLupus]

Yeah that ex wife doing everything she can and manipulates everyone into a situation that causes maximum emotional hurt for MC and those he trusts and loves and fucks up his life with maximum effect can hardly be an accident. With that kind of love you better surround yourself with people who hate you.

You would be surprised how many people actually do this in real life without noticing then, hell I met more than a few myself and I'm in my mid-twenties.