VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

The loan thing is absolutely ridiculous. If a loan goes unpaid, both co-signers will be equally in trouble. And I highly doubt a man in his mid-forties or fifties is going to risk it (he will have to buy another car or a caravan sometime and he wouldn't be eligible for a loan if this one is still unpaid). So yeah, maybe we can accept the money is now in his pocket and the college tuition is still unpaid so Maya can be expelled (although that's not how student loans seem to work anywhere), but in no way she will have financial problems for the rest of her life, or at least she'll have the same ones her dad will have (and of course she's 18 years old, she has lots of years ahead of her to solve this problem and even pay that damned loan without HOT's help, which doesn't seem to be an option because reasons). Not to mention that she could always sue her dad if it's so blatantly obvious he's the one keeping and misusing those funds instead of paying her college fees. So, as always, a mountain-high drama from a grain of sand.

you are too strict

the loan was not even spent though. so in the worst case scenario the father would have to pay some financial interest.

I think the point was to clarify why Maya can't ask for another one.
that Maya goes bankrupt is Maya's dramatic exaggeration in reporting the situation. it would be enough for her to give up college to be completely free from her father ...

then that it is all pumped up in a dramatic sense you are right, but we are facing a soap opera, I have long agreed with you on this. but for me it is not a problem, I accept the language and characteristics

 

[Arigon]

The loan thing is absolutely ridiculous. If a loan goes unpaid, both co-signers will be equally in trouble. And I highly doubt a man in his mid-forties or fifties is going to risk it (he will have to buy another car or a caravan sometime and he wouldn't be eligible for a loan if this one is still unpaid). So yeah, maybe we can accept the money is now in his pocket and the college tuition is still unpaid so Maya can be expelled (although that's not how student loans seem to work anywhere), but in no way she will have financial problems for the rest of her life, or at least she'll have the same ones her dad will have (and of course she's 18 years old, she has lots of years ahead of her to solve this problem and even pay that damned loan without HOT's help, which doesn't seem to be an option because reasons). Not to mention that she could always sue her dad if it's so blatantly obvious he's the one keeping and misusing those funds instead of paying her college fees. So, as always, a mountain-high drama from a grain of sand.

Again, sub par writing for the sake of needless unimaginative drama

 

[Elum Eno]

MC isn't imagining her naked. DPC is the one projecting her topless to the audience for whatever reason.

This is exactly how I took that scene... it was not the MC imagining her naked.
It was more like DPC took us all back to when she was actually writing in the book... for all we know the MC imagined her in a nuns outfit when writing.

No different then when DPC took us all back to when Q was a child watching her father do drugs while her mom was crashed out.
Just another scene to help set up the story.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I have not even said what color the cat is, and everyone will imagine it in the color they want

the mind works like this, it imagines it somehow

But in your example, a cat is explicitly mentioned therefore leading the person reading it to picture a cat. Lynette does not mention her tits, therefore, by your example, he should not be imagining them since they're not explicitly mentioned.

Well, except he is doing exactly that. Like exactly.

No, he isn't.

Do you think every time you see this kind of thing in films and TV shows, where someone is reading a letter, or an email, or a diary, and we see those events being read about, that the person reading it is picturing it exactly as it happened? Of course they're not. We, the audience, are being shown this, but it does not mean this is what the person reading it is visualising because how could they? How could they be seeing these events exactly as they happened? The answer is they're not, it's purely for our benefit as the audience to be shown it.

 

[Arigon]

But in your example, a cat is explicitly mentioned therefore leading the person reading it to picture a cat. Lynette does not mention her tits, therefore, by your example, he should not be imagining them since they're not explicitly mentioned.



No, he isn't.

Do you think every time you see this kind of thing in films and TV shows, where someone is reading a letter, or an email, or a diary, and we see those events being read about, that the person reading it is picturing it exactly as it happened? Of course they're not. We, the audience, are being shown this, but it does not mean this is what the person reading it is visualising because how could they? How could they be seeing these events exactly as they happened? The answer is they're not, it's purely for our benefit as the audience to be shown it.

I will just agree to disagree Bacchus.

 

[felicemastronzo]

But in your example, a cat is explicitly mentioned therefore leading the person reading it to picture a cat. Lynette does not mention her tits, therefore, by your example, he should not be imagining them since they're not explicitly mentioned.

One can imagine Lynette dressed as they like or even naked ...

as the cat can be black or white



a flashback and a story are two very different things.

the flashback does not have an interpreter, it is an excerpt from the reported past, the story of a diary instead has the reader as its interpreter

then I'm not saying that MC has incestuous fantasies, but this artifice of the diary creates a situation very close to incest, without being so in any way

 

[Elum Eno]

The loan thing is absolutely ridiculous. If a loan goes unpaid, both co-signers will be equally in trouble.

This is not correct... I can only speak from my own personal experience on this.
When my daughter was still in high school she had saved up a little over $500 for a used car to which I was going to match.
Put in looking at what we could get I just could not see my little girl driving around in a POS car.
So we got her a new car to which (against every ones advice) I Co-signed for.
about 3 years in and after she had moved out of the house, I get contacted that she was 90+ days behind in payments.

Which hit her credit score hard... I had 30 days to make it current before it would start hitting my credit score.
So no it does not effect both parties equally unless it keeps going unpaid.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

One can imagine Lynette dressed as they like or even naked ...

as the cat can be black or white

But you said that in order for a cat to be visualised by the reader then it must be mentioned. Lynette does not mention her tits, so why would the MC visualise them?

By your own reasoning, it doesn't make sense.

a flashback and a story are two very different things.

the flashback does not have an interpreter, it is an excerpt from the reported past, the story of a diary instead has the reader as its interpreter

No, that's not how it works. The person reading the article, in this case a diary, is simply reading the events. We the audience are shown these events because it would otherwise be boring to simply watch the person read it and nothing else. We're not seeing how they imagine the event unfolded, we're seeing how it actually happened and it's only us that are seeing it, not the person reading it.

 

[felicemastronzo]

This is not correct... I can only speak from my own personal experience on this.
When my daughter was still in high school she had saved up a little over $500 for a used car to which I was going to match.
Put in looking at what we could get I just could not see my little girl driving around in a POS car.
So we got her a new car to which (against every ones advice) I Co-signed for.
about 3 years in and after she had moved out of the house, I get contacted that she was 90+ days behind in payments.

Which hit her credit score hard... I had 30 days to make it current before it would start hitting my credit score.
So no it does not effect both parties equally unless it keeps going unpaid.

in the case of Maya being a student loan, the father evidently signs as guarantor of the loan.

 

[felicemastronzo]

But you said that in order for a cat to be visualised by the reader then it must be mentioned. Lynette does not mention her tits, so why would the MC visualise them?

By your own reasoning, it doesn't make sense.

what are you talking about?
what do boobs have to do with it?

MC imagines Lynette, imagines her as he pleases, dressed, in pajamas or naked
if he imagines her naked you can see her tits.

the eyes and mouth are also visible, did he have to mention them in the diary to visualize them?

 

[obibobi]

A young Gillian Jacobs would have made a perfect Maya because Maya's the worst,

 

[Holy Bacchus]

what are you talking about?
what do boobs have to do with it?

MC imagines Lynette, imagines her as he pleases, dressed, in pajamas or naked
if he imagines her naked you can see her tits.

the eyes and mouth are also visible, did he have to mention them in the diary to visualize them?

Your words:

certainly, but if you read the phrase "there is a cat on the table" your mind will make you visualize a cat on the table.

if MC reads about Lynette writing in her room about how her day went, hisbrain will visualize the mother writing or what she tells.

if he reads about Neil having sex with Lynette, he will visualize Neil having sex with Lynette,

You claimed that in order to visualise a cat, then a cat must be mentioned. So, by your words and reasoning, Lynette must therefore mention her tits in order for the MC to visualise them, right? But she doesn't. She makes no mention of them so he shouldn't be visualising them.

You used this kind of reasoning as your example but now you're saying it doesn't need to be explicitly mentioned, so which is it? Does something have to be explicitly metioned in order for it to be visualised, or not? Make up your mind.

 

[moskyx]

This is not correct... I can only speak from my own personal experience on this.
When my daughter was still in high school she had saved up a little over $500 for a used car to which I was going to match.
Put in looking at what we could get I just could not see my little girl driving around in a POS car.
So we got her a new car to which (against every ones advice) I Co-signed for.
about 3 years in and after she had moved out of the house, I get contacted that she was 90+ days behind in payments.

Which hit her credit score hard... I had 30 days to make it current before it would start hitting my credit score.
So no it does not effect both parties equally unless it keeps going unpaid.

That's the thing... If you refuse to pay, you're as screwed as her. And if you pay that debt, she's as free as yourself. So the situation will last as much time as her dad can afford to stay out of the financial system (or until the financial system work its way to get daddy's assets to force him to pay). So the only main concern would be she being expelled from college for not paying her tuition, but I guess even that could be fought if the money never was in her pocket and it's all dad's fault.

 

[Elum Eno]

That's the thing... If you refuse to pay, you're as screwed as her. And if you pay that debt, she's as free as yourself. So the situation will last as much time as her dad can afford to stay out of the financial system (or until the financial system work its way to get daddy's assets to force him to pay). So the only main concern would be she being expelled from college for not paying her tuition, but I guess even that could be fought if the money never was in her pocket and it's all dad's fault.

Actually no she was not... that stayed on her credit report for years and mine stayed clean.

 

[Gladheim]

A young Gillian Jacobs would have made a perfect Maya because Maya's the worst,

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I think im gonna kick your ass xD
Fan of Bella right?

 

[The Aligator]

Does anyone have a full gallery save file? i've reseted my pc D:

 

[Gunizz]

I just realized that there is a traitor in the DIKs. Couse the Jade-MC pic Burke watch in the pc at the end of chapter 6 is the same the DIKs watch at the end of Hell Week. That pics remain in the notebook in the DIK mansion, and on ly DIKs has acces to that.

Nick is the main suspect for me.
1) his bedroom is the only one intact after the Jocks devastation.
2) MC finds him in the library still looking for the laptop (and when talking to MC he looks strangely on the right, like he's looking at something we cannot see).
3) he is often embarassed and separated from others (ex.: when MC gives him money at the strip club).
My supposition is that he could be doing it to get Chad's leader position inside the Jocks. I don't see him wanting to lead DIKs, he feels like a stranger.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

My supposition is that he could be doing it to get Chad's leader position inside the Jocks. I don't see him wanting to lead DIKs, he feels like a stranger.

Yeah, since Nick would obviously fit in with the Jocks.

 

[Heycock]

Nick is the main suspect for me.
1) his bedroom is the only one intact after the Jocks devastation.
2) MC finds him in the library still looking for the laptop (and when talking to MC he looks strangely on the right, like he's looking at something we cannot see).
3) he is often embarassed and separated from others (ex.: when MC gives him money at the strip club).
My supposition is that he could be doing it to get Chad's leader position inside the Jocks. I don't see him wanting to lead DIKs, he feels like a stranger.

Yeah, i think the same. Nick is the main suspect, besides for all the Vinny thing. I will check some of the clues you say. Also i have some doubts about Tommy. I know it doesnt have sense but Rusty said that only three persons will have acces to the safe where the laptop is, at the middle of chap 6, Mc himself and tommy.

 

[Arigon]

This is not correct... I can only speak from my own personal experience on this.
When my daughter was still in high school she had saved up a little over $500 for a used car to which I was going to match.
Put in looking at what we could get I just could not see my little girl driving around in a POS car.
So we got her a new car to which (against every ones advice) I Co-signed for.
about 3 years in and after she had moved out of the house, I get contacted that she was 90+ days behind in payments.

Which hit her credit score hard... I had 30 days to make it current before it would start hitting my credit score.
So no it does not effect both parties equally unless it keeps going unpaid.

PLUS loans which parents sign for as well as the kids, is an education loan. It hits both kid and parent at the same time.
Cosigning a loan for your kid for something else is different than education loans in the US which BADIK is supposedly set in.