Cenc

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Personally my main character ignores all of the women. The endgame I am hoping for involves the main character ignoring everybody in the first 2 chapters and bringing justice for his "murdered daughter". While having an actual meaningful romance with his cousin and ultimately impregnating her then maybe naming his new daughter after his old. Fingers are crossed.
haha of all the ideas, thats got to be the best !

I promise nothing! :p
 

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HAHA i never thought i would ever see Essex or Bognor mentioned in a VN
 
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Intentional - its for an upcoming series of scenes in a later chapter.
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not sure why you would think the links are going to vanish.
hmm interesting..but i see getting emily points almost always related to insanity growth which makes me lil bit worried,not sure if i should choose to get the points or stay ''rational''
 

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So apparently this update aims to make wife more relatable. So now we have to accept she will be supportive because...she said so? "If I have to choose between you and career I will always choose you". Bitch, sit down, the time to choose has already come and gone. And you've already made your choice. The fact that this convo starts with her being sarcastic about his drinking problem, while she just hid an empty bottle behind her, pretty much sums up this fucked relationship.

Not that MC is any better. Spineless tard who can't help but drool over a random slut, moments after the news about his daughter. Even if we don't pick the option to pursuit it. I'm all for fucking around in a porn game, but when you insert death into it, it just becomes tasteless.

They deserve each other really. It's one of those games where I want to pick all the worst possible options for the characters, because that's what they deserve. Maybe a path where he's a middle-aged bum still working at strip joints, probably involved with some stripper who takes advantage of him while she's cucking him left and right. And waifu being an artist-turned whore for that creep, pursuing a career fitting for her skills (that's not art). Very slim chance of any of that but it'd be proper endgame imo.
in mine shes a loving wife and no drinking problems, and the reason shes still working for Sebastian is because she has no choice she has a shitty contract
 

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hmm interesting..but i see getting emily points almost always related to insanity growth which makes me lil bit worried,not sure if i should choose to get the points or stay ''rational''
Not gonna spoil things, other than to say some insanity is not a bad thing. Too much however...
 

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Didn't try this game yet so what do you think of it? Usually we agree in some ways of thinking so I usually look up yours posts when Didn't try a game yet.

Already read all that about the wife so seems I would not be thrilled to continue with her. But really every time you can break up with her mc is the douche? There no option to break and said that mc is breaking because she is always with that Sebastian and she isn't supporting mc after what happened to him(from what I gathered reading here)? I like when games lets us break with someone for the right choices but hate when let us break without the right choice or right explanation.

Is it worth? Ty
I try to avoid telling people not to try games, they may miss out on their next favorite. However, I would agree with waiting a bit longer to try it. I find this game to be too dark for me. The daughter...dying in a car accident that was intentionally caused, the MC’s emotional state, the seeming serial murderer that is the wife’s “agent”, the weirdly unrealistic world of art, the fact that to see much in the way of lewd content the MC has to cheat... All are reasons I no longer play this game. But that’s me and I know that we all have different tastes.
 

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in mine shes a loving wife and no drinking problems, and the reason shes still working for Sebastian is because she has no choice she has a shitty contract
Replayed that scene and it was his cans so wrong on that. Still, to my knowledge there is no route where she doesn't fuck off to meet Sebastian at the times she was needed the most. Even in my save where MC doesn't cheat and is supportive. She always becomes distant and leaves MC alone to battle depression. So probably we have very different definitions of "loving".

There is no such thing as no choice unless this game takes place is some bizzaro universe where employers are literal slavedrivers. This game introduces her in an office, it's not like she doesn't have options other than working for that dude. More like convenient plot armor for a shitty spouse and need for the villain to remain relevant in-game.
 

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Replayed that scene and it was his cans so wrong on that. Still, to my knowledge there is no route where she doesn't fuck off to meet Sebastian at the times she was needed the most. Even in my save where MC doesn't cheat and is supportive. She always becomes distant and leaves MC alone to battle depression. So probably we have very different definitions of "loving".

There is no such thing as no choice unless this game takes place is some bizzaro universe where employers are literal slavedrivers. This game introduces her in an office, it's not like she doesn't have options other than working for that dude. More like convenient plot armor for a shitty spouse and need for the villain to remain relevant in-game.
she explains she signed the contract without fully reading it and now there is a penalty clause if she breaks it so she has to keep supplying him with paintings, and i never got the cans because i stopped drinking at the bar so didn't get the alcoholic flag
 

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I see Cindy as a nice vessel for his daughters spirit!!! Remove cindy spirit, replace with daughters and have an absolutely not incestuous relationship

Ahem, too much coffee!
 
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I see Cindy as a nice vessel for his daughters spirit!!! Remove cindy spirit, replace with daughters and have an absolutely not incestuous relationship

Ahem, too much coffee!
I finally found someone who likes Cindy!!

who just wants to remove her spirit...from her body... and replace it with Emily's...

hmmm...
 
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she explains she signed the contract without fully reading it and now there is a penalty clause if she breaks it so she has to keep supplying him with paintings, and i never got the cans because i stopped drinking at the bar so didn't get the alcoholic flag
Yeah those damn small letters in the ruthless world of corporate painting are like that. I could see this contract having another clause that says she has to provide daily cocksucking too, I mean it'd be just as believable as these clauses.

I only let him drink because the poor smuck had to drown his sorrows somehow since his wife had practically abandoned him to pursuit her career. It was either that or letting off steam by getting some pussy and I wasn't about to let that pervert get any.
 

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I must be very strange, because I like the wife and I hope that the path with her can continue to the end. Well, besides that I like it, I don't want her to end up staying with the bastard Sebastien, who I hope to see suffer as much as possible
I hope over time to see that indeed the wife truly loves her husband and that she was really with Sebastian because of the contract. Besides that not everyone deals with the pain of a death in the same way
 

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Yeah those damn small letters in the ruthless world of corporate painting are like that. I could see this contract having another clause that says she has to provide daily cocksucking too, I mean it'd be just as believable as these clauses.

I only let him drink because the poor smuck had to drown his sorrows somehow since his wife had practically abandoned him to pursuit her career. It was either that or letting off steam by getting some pussy and I wasn't about to let that pervert get any.
i dont think its corporate painting when i think his dad is the mob boss, and she hasn't abandoned him for her career she has no choice she has a shit 2 year contract, she tells him she would choose him over her career if he asks her to and shes never once shown any sign of cheating its the opposite she doesn't like the sexual harassment
 

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i dont think its corporate painting when i think his dad is the mob boss, and she hasn't abandoned him for her career she has no choice she has a shit 2 year contract, she tells him she would choose him over her career if he asks her to and shes never once shown any sign of cheating its the opposite she doesn't like the sexual harassment
The entire setup of this game seems to be to make the MC (and therefore the Player) miserable. Beautiful wife who is being sexually harassed by her predator boss and can’t do anything about it, daughter dead, MC is a depressive alcoholic who doesn’t work and is going insane, cheating and possible dissolution of the marriage... Is this meant to be a crying fap game? What about this setup appeals to people? I’m honestly curious as it doesn’t seem like anything will be getting better for the characters.
 

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The entire setup of this game seems to be to make the MC (and therefore the Player) miserable. Beautiful wife who is being sexually harassed by her predator boss and can’t do anything about it, daughter dead, MC is a depressive alcoholic who doesn’t work and is going insane, cheating and possible dissolution of the marriage... Is this meant to be a crying fap game? What about this setup appeals to people? I’m honestly curious as it doesn’t seem like anything will be getting better for the characters.
my MC isn't a depressive alcoholic going insane or cheating, his wife still loves him they still sleeping together and she doesn't like Sebastian, im just waiting for the chance to beat the shit out of Sebastian who i think drove the car or hired someone to kill the MC but killed the daughter instead
 
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i dont think its corporate painting when i think his dad is the mob boss, and she hasn't abandoned him for her career she has no choice she has a shit 2 year contract, she tells him she would choose him over her career if he asks her to and shes never once shown any sign of cheating its the opposite she doesn't like the sexual harassment
In a semi-believable modern setting, the wife can ruin that man's entire life the moment he even thinks of exploiting a woman at the workplace and still be able to be back home for launch.

It's like she is a protagonist in all these fem MC games, where the female is a dumb bimbo agreeing to the most outrageous exploitation shit for the sake of porn plot.
 

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The entire setup of this game seems to be to make the MC (and therefore the Player) miserable. Beautiful wife who is being sexually harassed by her predator boss and can’t do anything about it, daughter dead, MC is a depressive alcoholic who doesn’t work and is going insane, cheating and possible dissolution of the marriage... Is this meant to be a crying fap game? What about this setup appeals to people? I’m honestly curious as it doesn’t seem like anything will be getting better for the characters.

I did say this game deals with dark themes, you may not see a way back from the events that are taking place, and as someone whose been there and lived depression - at times it can feel like there is no way back.

I'm here now as living proof, as are many others that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

we just hope it's not the headlamp of an on-comming train.

Seriously though. This VN is not going to be for everyone. It's not your cup of tea, that's fine. thank you for trying it. perhaps ch3 might be more to your liking, perhaps not. Either way, there are some that do enjoy the game - and more power to them.
 

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In a semi-believable modern setting, the wife can ruin that man's entire life the moment he even thinks of exploiting a woman at the workplace and still be able to be back home for launch.

It's like she is a protagonist in all these fem MC games, where the female is a dumb bimbo agreeing to the most outrageous exploitation shit for the sake of porn plot.
dont you mean try and ruin his life and be dead by lunch if his dad is the mob boss and Sebastian is a serial killer
 
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dont you mean try and ruin his life and be dead by lunch if his dad is the mob boss and Sebastian is a serial killer
Even if that's true, the character in-game doesn't know any of that. All she is seeing is a sleazy fuck with obvious predatory behavior.

And if he is a serial killer (he has the vibes), then death is a concern from the point he took interest on her, no matter if she stays or not. You'd want to be as far as possible from a serial killer, not jumping at the chance to meet them each time they call.
 
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