Bob Jared

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Wasn't it made clear that wasn't the case? They followed the mc after his first day of work, then offered to take his money or beat him. One even almost killed him for no real reason at the church. And let's not forget others came to beg the princess to save their families by buying the contract. They assumed wrongly, many times and mugged innocents trying to rescue their families, just like the mc.
Assuming that office is the usual place for non Scarlet Contract transactions rather than just convenient for the MC due to him already working with the Princess; I admit that was an oversight on my part. As to the issue of people going to beg the princess to save a loved one; the Powder Girls must be recruiting somehow.

They did know that the MC was there to buy scarlet contracts. We know this because at the church Viera specifically called the MC an "owner" while attempting to protect Altina from him. That was the reason she "almost killed" the MC by the way.
What sister enslavement plot are you referring to?
Wasn't the MC told that Viera and Altina are sisters? Or did you forget that they were there explicitly because Altina's Scarlet Contract was bought as a means to an end?
Also, how is she tyrannical? She's the princess, not a queen. She commands borderline no power and handles minimal administration.
You completely misinterpreted my sentence. I said "An official of a GOVERNMENT that they had every reason to believe is tyrannical".

When a government is selling off it's own citizens into slavery, of course it would be believed that it is tyrannical regardless of the excuse given.
No, it would make them guilty of insurrection based on ignorance. And if they knew history, the laws were initially struck down, then restored to placate the curse. Unless they've been lied to.
The Princess claimed that the curse is taught about in history classes but multiple characters including the MC don't recall ever being taught about any curse. This screams of the developer intentionally hinting that something else is going on. And before you accuse me of calling Laureate a liar; it's more likely that she is a victim of lies.

  1. They were not slavers, they were church knights.
  2. They were not "the bad guys" for not surrendering. They were the bad guys for reasons listed above.
  3. They died fighting the effective policing force after terrorism.
Fair enough. If the "police force" is slaughtering a group for "protesting" (your word) a pro-slavery law then they are only hired guards of slavers.

I took your list as "reasons why the Powder Girls are in the wrong". If that wasn't your intention then my bad.

Also, between the church being in support of the Scarlet Law despite being against Azula suggests to me that the deity behind the curse (if it's real) is not Azula but whatever unrevealed being the church worships. This would mean that they willingly support the real villain of the game and any justification for their attack on the Powder Girls should be viewed with suspicion.
And again, they refuse to even read the law, to even understand why the mc has slaves.
Wasn't the idea of the MC buying out contracts to save someone such a big deal to the Laureate partly because it had never been done before? I don't see how reading the law vs. not reading it would make a difference.

And as to the MC specifically:

  1. During the mugging attempt, Viera hesitated when he screamed about trying to save someone. Therefore suggesting that she never encountered something like that before.
  2. When visiting Viera in the prison it is revealed that the Powder Girls later received reports that the MC is "going around, trying to help the girls in Scarlet". Viera personally refusing to believe that is not the fault of the remaining members who where killed.

You're just on this slave owner therefore bad argument. If you really feel that way why are you playing an evil mc?
Since my use of the words "they had every reason to believe" didn't clue you in; I was not claiming they are infallible. Only that they were not villains and at most deserved only a tiny fraction of the punishment they received.

Furthermore, I never implied that the MC is evil. If people trying to do the right thing come into conflict with each other in the process it is up to both parties to resolve the misunderstanding. This almost happened during the attempted mugging but they where interrupted.
You're assuming that every person they attack is the run of the mill bad slaver type, when it's been shown that isn't the case. The most info they get is that someone is buying a slave and then they go and beat their shit in without asking any questions. They assume that every slaver is out to ruin the lives of others and we frankly don't know how many treat their slaves poorly and how many don't. So in a sense, yes, going around and beating every slaver they come across regardless of their circumstances(which they don't even bother to learn) could very well be "bad thing they've done in the present day."
I thought the game made it pretty clear that the MC is the only person to attempt buying a Scarlet Contract for any reason other than just wanting to own a slave. This would mean that he is the only owner who was falsely targeted so only he should get to decide to forgive or hold a grudge against Altina and Viera. (and only those two)
My head hurts reading your comments sometimes. Love the heated conversations though! Look forward to 0.1.7!
I didn't intend to come off as heated. I apologize to anyone who took it that way.
 
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thevoid089

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Assuming that office is the usual place for non Scarlet Contract transactions rather than just convenient for the MC due to him already working with the Princess; I admit that was an oversight on my part. As to the issue of people going to beg the princess to save a loved one; the Powder Girls must be recruiting somehow.

They did know that the MC was there to buy scarlet contracts. We know this because at the church Viera specifically called the MC an "owner" while attempting to protect Altina from him. That was the reason she "almost killed" the MC by the way.

Wasn't the MC told that Viera and Altina are sisters? Or did you forget that they were there explicitly because Altina's Scarlet Contract was bought as a means to an end?
You completely misinterpreted my sentence. I said "An official of a GOVERNMENT that they had every reason to believe is tyrannical".

When a government is selling off it's own citizens into slavery, of course it would be believed that it is tyrannical regardless of the excuse given.
The Princess claimed that the curse is taught about in history classes but multiple characters including the MC don't recall ever being taught about any curse. This screams of the developer intentionally hinting that something else is going on. And before you accuse me of calling Laureate a liar; it's more likely that she is a victim of lies.



Fair enough. If the "police force" is slaughtering a group for "protesting" (your word) a pro-slavery law then they are only hired guards of slavers.

I took your list as "reasons why the Powder Girls are in the wrong". If that wasn't your intention then my bad.

Also, between the church being in support of the Scarlet Law despite being against Azula suggests to me that the deity behind the curse (if it's real) is not Azula but whatever unrevealed being the church worships. This would mean that they willingly support the real villain of the game and any justification for their attack on the Powder Girls should be viewed with suspicion.
Wasn't the idea of the MC buying out contracts to save someone such a big deal to the Laureate partly because it had never been done before? I don't see how reading the law vs. not reading it would make a difference.

And as to the MC specifically:

  1. During the mugging attempt, Viera hesitated when he screamed about trying to save someone. Therefore suggesting that she never encountered something like that before.
  2. When visiting Viera in the prison it is revealed that the Powder Girls later received reports that the MC is "going around, trying to help the girls in Scarlet". Viera personally refusing to believe that is not the fault of the remaining members who where killed.


Since my use of the words "they had every reason to believe" didn't clue you in; I was not claiming they are infallible. Only that they were not villains and at most deserved a only tiny fraction of the punishment they received.

Furthermore, I never implied that the MC is evil. If people trying to do the right thing come into conflict with each other in the process it is up to both parties to resolve the misunderstanding. This almost happened during the attempted mugging but they where interrupted.
I thought the game made it pretty clear that the MC is the only person to attempt buying a Scarlet Contract for any reason other than just wanting to own a slave. This would mean that he is the only owner who was falsely targeted so only he should get to decide to forgive or hold a grudge against Altina and Viera. (and only those two)

I didn't intend to come off as heated. I apologize to anyone who took it that way.
In short: There's a lot of sinister behind the law and the curse that await for MC to solve, many questions that need to be answer will appear in the future updates. Even MC realize until now how awful and something very wrong with the way the church and the monarch are doing, maybe he won't be like how the Powder girls tried to resist the law but he will doing his own way to help and get rid of Scarlet's law because his family nearly become a victim of it
What I like about this game is that you aren't enjoy buying the women of the game at all, but more like you trying to do something in your limit way to save as many people as possible: The people who are dearly to you, the people whose family fell victim by the system, someone bussiness, a goddess on the verge of death,.... The guy wasn't evil but not truly a saint either, just a person want to do something and slowly learn the truth and getting himself deeper into more troubles
 
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KingWeWuz

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Yeah, I was in the process of responding but the passive aggressive in this conversation is getting needlessly heated...
I'm not gonna continue with this so why not just agree to disagree and admit we're both making assumptions? No headaches no extra paragraphs of debate, just chill waiting for an update.
 

Bob Jared

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Yeah, I was in the process of responding but the passive aggressive in this conversation is getting needlessly heated...
I'm not gonna continue with this so why not just agree to disagree and admit we're both making assumptions? No headaches no extra paragraphs of debate, just chill waiting for an update.
I would be fine with continuing the conversation but fair enough if you aren't.
 
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I thought the game made it pretty clear that the MC is the only person to attempt buying a Scarlet Contract for any reason other than just wanting to own a slave. This would mean that he is the only owner who was falsely targeted so only he should get to decide to forgive or hold a grudge against Altina and Viera. (and only those two)
I'd have to start up a new game to be 100% sure, but I'm sure there are other people who've tried to do what he's done, there's no way he could be only one falsely targeted, especially since with the way they operate Viera would have beaten anyone before they reached the office. I will say that I probably misspoke in that when I say the Powder Girls, I mean just Altina and Viera. Heck, the MC seems to still very much hate her(and rightfully so).
 
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A Common Crab

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My take on all this: Laureate is more often than not the one who actually has a point backed by facts and logic. Do I know why you guys are discussing? No. Do I know better than to not read it all to understand? Yes. Will I properly read, rationalize and consider both sides of this issue? Nope, nuh uh. What am I doing here then? Dunno.
 

homerj30

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so a few notes:
the ghost at the hot spring peeked my interest
the prison can open up options to purchase further contracts: thieves, gypsies, thugs, assassans, perverts, yada yada. no big back stories, unless one would gain said fans. the game really needs some characters to help the mc unwind during the grind :whistle:
the upgraded house seems to be missing rooms ?
clothing options for the female characters? for me at least, id rather see alt in a nun outfit etc :devilish:
also wouldn't hurt to lvl up the old essence wank off to a bj or something.
 

thevoid089

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so a few notes:
the ghost at the hot spring peeked my interest
the prison can open up options to purchase further contracts: thieves, gypsies, thugs, assassans, perverts, yada yada. no big back stories, unless one would gain said fans. the game really needs some characters to help the mc unwind during the grind :whistle:
the upgraded house seems to be missing rooms ?
clothing options for the female characters? for me at least, id rather see alt in a nun outfit etc :devilish:
also wouldn't hurt to lvl up the old essence wank off to a bj or something.
Forgot about the house didn't have any more rooms despite I'm already build more for some girls like Azula to live in, no wonder I found something is very odd but didn't care enough. Would be nice to have option to changing girl's outfit, but would need a clothing shop with new girl to hit on
And more way to increasing the money income each day too, because look like the price to buying girls seems to be more and more expensive in the future. The idea to buying criminals in the prison...I like that, hope Dev would adding more girls for that
 

homerj30

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a maid cafe was added through rare event. though it looks like the only current option is to work there on the side. guessing that's going to be a property that can be purchased down the road. maybe hiring a few maids. or staffing it with your contracts ?
 

JD Dark

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Also Forgot if any other rooms were added like serena or makoto cause if so there gone as well
 
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