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3 besti scenes on discord for the next patch - they won't hit twitter unfortunately for "reasons".Any cg spoils?
3 besti scenes on discord for the next patch - they won't hit twitter unfortunately for "reasons".Any cg spoils?
Right, "reasons".3 besti scenes on discord for the next patch - they won't hit twitter unfortunately for "reasons".
Regarding summertime saga:View attachment 1105196
You guys really went nuts with those comparisons this time.
Fundamentally if game dev is doing slow but regular updates and has been doing like this from the start i can't blame them. (that is within current patreon model that is shit as i have explained previously). Being a Dik is such a game for me, the dev support skyrocketed over the project duration but he is doing slow updates as he was doing. While i would love that he would speed things up, he never promised faster updates and so it is not right to accuse him of milking when it his success is just result of him doing good job. Naturally being able to find the market, advertise and provide incentives for people to support is part of the business.
Unfortunately i never followed Summertime Saga so i don't know how the project started, if the slow updates were from the start or they became a thing ones the project became popular. But their goals capped at $30k that they achieved in 2018. I know the updates been slow for last two years yet they kept growing despite that - privilege of being in the top? Also we gotta remember that the game is free so it may make people more willing to support. But forget about comparing to the top 10(?) projects they just don't play by the same rules.
Subverse - "throw 2 mil at ... and see what they come up with" that is basically what has happened for FOW. They never did game before and just like you are fan of HS they had their fans that believed in them. Just one more day and we will see what they came up with. (BTW. Anyone can start KS campaign but not anyone would catch 2 mil with one)
Hallow Knight - different game in all regards. Just because it is good game for small funding does not invalidate other games.
I see, my guess is that most people that supported him during early development aren't supporting him anymore or just sit 1$. But being early, grabbing that top spot carried countless companies to success. And this is no different.Regarding summertime saga:
From my own personal experience, I followed that project from the very very start, and damn I was exited - I cannot remember how often he updated exactly, but it was really often, if it was not monthly it was certainly bimonthly. Lot of content was getting into that game so fast, and he also grew in popularity really quick.
IMHO nothing good have come out of him getting the amount of money and traction he have right now. Every updated are so slow and they are bare-bone.
BUT im pretty sure he can relax and do his 5 scenes over 6 months time, meaning he properly work 1-2 of then slack for the rest(im proberly exaggerating a bit) but hell, 6 months.... 5 new scenes.... properly some background fixes and addons, some story and some dialogue - and what 65.000$ per month somebody mentioned... damn
For me its hard to get why people support it the way they do , but hey its their choice of cause
You're reaching hard, buddy.Because art wise it's a lot harder and much more time consuming to build a Fleeting Iris than a repetitive Metroidvania.
That's why I lowballed the figure in my example.Heaven Studios did not always average what they have now,
What are you even on about? Both games got crowd-funded. I'm talking exclusively about the ineffectiveness of the FI's devs in handling the development funds. How many copies the game ends up selling after release is pointless to this discussion and does not excuse such shameless milking.so you're checking production cost when sometimes you can afford to make an investment but an hentai game won't have that big of a light at the end of the tunnel
Not really. Taste is subjective, but comparisons between assets - related to art, gameplay, or anything else - can be made and in that regard, Hollow Knight displays much more originality, creativity, and diversification.comparing the quality of one and the other it's like comparing apples with oranges
Quantity does not equal quality.but when you compare the amount of assets being made one has the other beat and it's pretty obvious to know who.
Irrelevant. Whatever backing they had wasn't enough to get Hollow Knight off the ground and they needed to get crowd-funded.they had previous projects and a backing
The idea of a Hollow Knight game was an iterative process and goes back to their 2013 Hungry Knight game jam, but officially, full development on the Hollow Knight as we know, started around its release on Kickstarter, in late 2014.Also, officially, Hollow Knight took "after math was done" at least 2 years and 10 months to be made
Nope. I'm comparing their development structure and process, not the games themselves.but you're here comparing a cult game like Hollow Knight with an hentai game so
Whataboutism won't change the validity of the criticism towards FI's development process.Wanna talk about their budget?
Congratulations. You found another development team that milks their fans even harder than Heaven Studios. Here's a cookie for you.Let's actually talk about the team that I think is still the leading team on the genre?
And both engage in shameless milking by drip-feeding underwhelming, more-of-the-same content with minor variations.One is making little over 3k while the other is making 65k right now.
I'm not surprised you lost your way in this discussion. You've been trying every excuse in the book to justify their shady practices.I don't even know what are we arguing at this point
Pride. I hold myself to a much higher standard and could never milk my supporters like that.what's keeping you?
Everything above 1.0 is "DLC content" - so 1.02 vs 1.05 is just more free-roam stuff, where you need the right stats to trigger the events/scenes or you need to find them. There could be other stuff then free-roam however, like halloween content.is the content present in 1.05 automatically triggered after completing 1.02, i.e is walkthrough for 1.05 unnecessary?
Cool, ill try to follow the gallery for any missing events then. Thanks a lot.Everything above 1.0 is "DLC content" - so 1.02 vs 1.05 is just more free-roam stuff, where you need the right stats to trigger the events/scenes or you need to find them. There could be other stuff then free-roam however, like halloween content.
Walkthrough is.... perhaps needed "it depends", but there is none right now - You will either have to find out the events yourself, or ask, or read back in this thread.
Thanks for the answer but ah it did not really answer the question though? Or can I play with my old save and update without problems because if so then I guess you did answer the question.
You should not use old saves - This is basicly what the game tells you.Thanks for the answer but ah it did not really answer the question though? Or can I play with my old save and update without problems because if so then I guess you did answer the question.
Roadmap is here ->I was wondering, the doggo update is next. Which updates are still missing? Will there be aditional content for the base game or only IF content from now on?
Was wondering, is the Shota twins content dealing with the kids who lose their ball that Ayame gets back or are there new characters coming?Roadmap is here ->You must be registered to see the links
And answer is yes ! A lot more will be made for the base game - Only content that goes out of patreon rules will land on FI IF(and perhaps halloween/christmas + a few extra scenes), everything else will be made and added to the base game.
It looks more complicated than it actually isI finally tried that game after quite a while, since I'm not into ntr with a female pov (I prefer ntr with male pov), but the corruption part seemed sweet, and I had a question :
In the flow chart, in order to unlock free roam, you need both "A" and "B" if I read well, except it looks impossible.
You need to unlock part B in Sato route at day 19, but also part A in Melvin route at day 25.
How can you unlock 2 different things in 2 exclusive routes?
Edit : ok, looking at it more, you seem to need to switch to sato route at day 10, then switch to garcias route at day 15/16, then go to melvin route at day 18.
If you follow melvin route at day 10 or follow garcias route at day 18, you cannot get free roam... ?
Is it me or does these conditions look incredibly specific ?
The days are a bit misleading, they are used if you follow one single route only. So try to ignore the days, and just try to reach both points in your play-through.I finally tried that game after quite a while, since I'm not into ntr with a female pov (I prefer ntr with male pov), but the corruption part seemed sweet, and I had a question :
In the flow chart, in order to unlock free roam, you need both "A" and "B" if I read well, except it looks impossible.
You need to unlock part B in Sato route at day 19, but also part A in Melvin route at day 25.
How can you unlock 2 different things in 2 exclusive routes?
Edit : ok, looking at it more, you seem to need to switch to sato route at day 10, then switch to garcias route at day 15/16, then go to melvin route at day 18.
If you follow melvin route at day 10 or follow garcias route at day 18, you cannot get free roam... ?
Is it me or does these conditions look incredibly specific ?
For sure it is : if you can advance both branches at the same then yeah the days don't mean much.It looks more complicated than it actually is
OK thanksThe days are a bit misleading, they are used if you follow one single route only. So try to ignore the days, and just try to reach both points in your play-through.
The conditions are specific, but actually really easy to get.
A. Melvin Route: Get to the scene where Ayame rides him in his office(2nd sex with Melvin Scene)B. Sato Route: Either quit the route early OR get to the scene where Ayame have sex with Sato in the school outfit.When these conditions are met, you unlock free-roam.