RPGM Completed Vicious Circle [Final] [MironY]

[Aseratrix]

Aseratrix Frosty2000 If you two play/are through the update, can you give me a spoiler heads up a little later telling me if Alex's ending route/decision is somewhat cleaned up? Her content is pretty good overall, but I absolutely hate how it was executed as our "lover". Like is there any indication she is repenting or at least acknowledging that she says/does things but she's really enjoying and loving spending that time with the MC? I still love this game, but honestly, how she's acting is basically grounds for me to just start over and drop Alex's line completely. Like everyone else, you were clearly a toy from the start and you chose to be a pervert, I can forgive that. Alex is very different. I realize she and the MC make a very clear and cut decision of the type of relationship going forward...but there is 0 feeling of love or affection there, none. She even goes out of her way to make sure you feel that.

Sorry, I kinda went off there, give me a heads up please? (spoiler too so not to mess with anyone else)

Sadly lately - as you may have observed - I became more busy with life, new job, etc. Perhaps I will have some time now on this weekend. So, I haven't yet played the new update yet.

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[MAKeevchanin]

And what if I was a diligent student and did not receive a sentence in the Linda office? How to unlock her ending? Maybe something can be confronted in conservation?

 

[Frosty2000]

Aseratrix Frosty2000 If you two play/are through the update, can you give me a spoiler heads up a little later telling me if Alex's ending route/decision is somewhat cleaned up? Her content is pretty good overall, but I absolutely hate how it was executed as our "lover". Like is there any indication she is repenting or at least acknowledging that she says/does things but she's really enjoying and loving spending that time with the MC? I still love this game, but honestly, how she's acting is basically grounds for me to just start over and drop Alex's line completely. Like everyone else, you were clearly a toy from the start and you chose to be a pervert, I can forgive that. Alex is very different. I realize she and the MC make a very clear and cut decision of the type of relationship going forward...but there is 0 feeling of love or affection there, none. She even goes out of her way to make sure you feel that.

Sorry, I kinda went off there, give me a heads up please? (spoiler too so not to mess with anyone else)

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[SkepSyS]

Sorry but you really need someone to help you with the English translation... ) Can't really play like this... so good luck with the game!

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Sadly lately - as you may have observed - I became more busy with life, new job, etc. Perhaps I will have some time now on this weekend. So, I haven't yet played the new update yet.

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How are your schedule and mine just polar opposites? I *just* got free time... in regards to clarification with Alex, I wanted to know if she stopped being kinda...well horrible. I wouldn't mind all the things she does, EXCEPT, she claims she loved you/liked you a lot and cared about you deeply. Once you agreed to the mistress/sub relationship, she goes on a complete power trip, and just straight up says she doesn't like you or feel anything for you. She looks at you as nothing more than worse than garbage. You do nothing for her and she even goes so far as to regret wasting time being equals with you when this was your real place all along.

Again: I don't have a problem with that aspect if its part of PLAY. But she's all in, there is 0 sense of the previous feelings. She really only sees and treats the MC like trash, that I can't stand. Everyone else in the game, it was very clear: you're a toy, you let yourself be a toy, that's all fair. She was very different. What I want is some sort of acknowledgement its not just some hateful relationship, that there actually IS something there akin to feelings and romance.

What I despise the most of all this, is a submissive and sadist/master/mistress should all be having fun and bringing out the most joy in each other through their roles. She has made it clear through unilateral decisions and voiced how little she cares what the MC thinks, and is just enjoying being as horrible as possible to him.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

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Not my thing either (see my response to Aseratrix). If their relationship started out differently, I wouldn't mind it, but it did start the way it did. I can't stand her now, I'll skip her route entirely and go for any of the other characters, their reactions/relationships were far more clear and honest

 

[Aseratrix]

How are your schedule and mine just polar opposites? I *just* got free time... in regards to clarification with Alex, I wanted to know if she stopped being kinda...well horrible. I wouldn't mind all the things she does, EXCEPT, she claims she loved you/liked you a lot and cared about you deeply. Once you agreed to the mistress/sub relationship, she goes on a complete power trip, and just straight up says she doesn't like you or feel anything for you. She looks at you as nothing more than worse than garbage. You do nothing for her and she even goes so far as to regret wasting time being equals with you when this was your real place all along.

Again: I don't have a problem with that aspect if its part of PLAY. But she's all in, there is 0 sense of the previous feelings. She really only sees and treats the MC like trash, that I can't stand. Everyone else in the game, it was very clear: you're a toy, you let yourself be a toy, that's all fair. She was very different. What I want is some sort of acknowledgement its not just some hateful relationship, that there actually IS something there akin to feelings and romance.

What I despise the most of all this, is a submissive and sadist/master/mistress should all be having fun and bringing out the most joy in each other through their roles. She has made it clear through unilateral decisions and voiced how little she cares what the MC thinks, and is just enjoying being as horrible as possible to him.

By now, I am convinced that your take on the subject is the "industry gold standard" lol, I don't mean it sarcastically, just as a matter of fact. What some of you conceive as "hate" I really experience as another kind of love. The sadist can not be a sadist if she always has to pamper the slave's feelings, in my view, the sadist's raison d'etre, the hottest thing for them is to relish in their cruelty, and vice versa for a masochist (I also favor the idea that as a submissive I should not dictate my dominant what to and how to do, that feels as if I take control, which is not what I want...I want her to shine with her own light, and me bathing in that borrowed light). In my ideal femdom, the female/females are superior to me, and my submission to them is fueled by both a feeling of worshipful admiration for their beauty and superiority, and a desire to be used/abused/degraded by them, quite in order to highlight their supreme superiority - I am but an object which ensures them to shine even brighter, so no reciprocity is conceivable...

Now, I recognize this can be cushioned/put into a self-contained sandbox, surrounded by romance, and yeah I love that. I would probably be for that in real life. However, with some insight, I do believe that we can agree that to a certain degree the desire to be humiliated/dominated or conversely to humiliate/dominate is not easy to reconcile psychologically with caring (not impossible, but it needs an extra layer of relationship), and as such it may dull the intensity of the experience of both sides. Hence is why probably my main fantasies are about femdom happening outside romance, like with strangers who already have no issue being maximally mean with you - in my fantasies this also extends to these being non-consensual, because somehow that makes it even more masochistically exquisite. That being said, I think I understand perfectly the caring/romantic/consensual type femdom, and I get what you'd like Alex to be like. Something like a mix between deep love, a space for a mutual exploration and appreciation of each other's deepest existence, combined with the sexual tension of femdom and a pinch of Yandere thrown in for dramatic effect?

Ultimately I think in this instance the issue may lay with how the story is leading you to believe something other than what is brewing.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

By now, I am convinced that your take on the subject is the "industry gold standard" lol, I don't mean it sarcastically, just as a matter of fact. What some of you conceive as "hate" I really experience as another kind of love. The sadist can not be a sadist if she always has to pamper the slave's feelings, in my view, the sadist's raison d'etre, the hottest thing for them is to relish in their cruelty, and vice versa for a masochist (I also favor the idea that as a submissive I should not dictate my dominant what to and how to do, that feels as if I take control, which is not what I want...I want her to shine with her own light, and me bathing in that borrowed light). In my ideal femdom, the female/females are superior to me, and my submission to them is fueled by both a feeling of worshipful admiration for their beauty and superiority, and a desire to be used/abused/degraded by them, quite in order to highlight their supreme superiority - I am but an object which ensures them to shine even brighter, so no reciprocity is conceivable...

Now, I recognize this can be cushioned/put into a self-contained sandbox, surrounded by romance, and yeah I love that. I would probably be for that in real life. However, with some insight, I do believe that we can agree that to a certain degree the desire to be humiliated/dominated or conversely to humiliate/dominate is not easy to reconcile psychologically with caring (not impossible, but it needs an extra layer of relationship), and as such it may dull the intensity of the experience of both sides. Hence is why probably my main fantasies are about femdom happening outside romance, like with strangers who already have no issue being maximally mean with you - in my fantasies this also extends to these being non-consensual, because somehow that makes it even more masochistically exquisite. That being said, I think I understand perfectly the caring/romantic/consensual type femdom, and I get what you'd like Alex to be like. Something like a mix between deep love, a space for a mutual exploration and appreciation of each other's deepest existence, combined with the sexual tension of femdom and a pinch of Yandere thrown in for dramatic effect?

Ultimately I think in this instance the issue may lay with how the story is leading you to believe something other than what is brewing.

Err, going to try to keep this short, its not like I disagree with what you said. What I will say is this: there is a difference between life and play. Some people can keep the lifestyle 24/7, that is the dream a lot think they want, in fact its very difficult to do. You still have to have lives that separate the two. It's somewhat maintained as at first at least, Alex attempts to hide the nature of their relationship while in class.

I am not asking for her to care or cater about feelings all the time. What I want is some acknowledgement that what she says while in the play, and everything else is separate. She doesn't do that. She treats the MC like scum from that moment on and never lets up, there is no hint of the old romantic feelings. I don't think what I'm saying is unreasonable. I don't mind what she's actually doing or that she needs to care about the MC's feelings. What I care about is she has not once shown one ounce of the girl that was previously "our lover". Make note, I have 0 qualms about any other relationship or how we are treated in the game from anyone else. It's her specifically, who has a intimate relationship beyond just sex and play. I know you're the type of person who likes it harsh and dirty, that's absolutely valid. Had she started off like the other people and we hadn't started off nicely dating and talking about having romantic feelings, we'd never be having this discussion. Instead, she just became truly hateful

 

[Aseratrix]

Err, going to try to keep this short, its not like I disagree with what you said. What I will say is this: there is a difference between life and play. Some people can keep the lifestyle 24/7, that is the dream a lot think they want, in fact its very difficult to do. You still have to have lives that separate the two. It's somewhat maintained as at first at least, Alex attempts to hide the nature of their relationship while in class.

I am not asking for her to care or cater about feelings all the time. What I want is some acknowledgement that what she says while in the play, and everything else is separate. She doesn't do that. She treats the MC like scum from that moment on and never lets up, there is no hint of the old romantic feelings. I don't think what I'm saying is unreasonable. I don't mind what she's actually doing or that she needs to care about the MC's feelings. What I care about is she has not once shown one ounce of the girl that was previously "our lover". Make note, I have 0 qualms about any other relationship or how we are treated in the game from anyone else. It's her specifically, who has a intimate relationship beyond just sex and play. I know you're the type of person who likes it harsh and dirty, that's absolutely valid. Had she started off like the other people and we hadn't started off nicely dating and talking about having romantic feelings, we'd never be having this discussion. Instead, she just became truly hateful

I got you. Yeah in reality it may be difficult to be the perfect slave all the time. But this is precisely why I like fantasy and games like this, because it offers in imaginary terms what in reality usually falls short of expectation.

In regards to the story tho, can't you imagine a story which begins with love and then slowly evolves into something else? Maybe if its more gradual? Or does it need to stay faithful to the premise? Do we even know the premise? Maybe the betrayal of love is another way of humiliating the MC? What then?

 

[Aseratrix]

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I warmly recommend the game Android Life, its funny as hell and its nice femdom, especially in vibes!!!

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

I got you. Yeah in reality it may be difficult to be the perfect slave all the time. But this is precisely why I like fantasy and games like this, because it offers in imaginary terms what in reality usually falls short of.

In regards to the story tho, can't you imagine a story which begins with love and then slowly evolves into something else? Maybe if its more gradual? Or does it need to stay faithful to the premise? Do we even know the premise? Maybe the betrayal of love is another way of humiliating the MC? What then?

Honestly at that point, its just not my thing. The biggest issue is the timing of the game. I realize we (the players) are spanning this over months, that's especially true to the dev and in regards to the writing. The main issue is they fell in love super fast, literally like 2 days in game time, and this whole thing happens in less than a week, so what the relationship is or was built on is changed almost instantly. There is clearly more things going on, especially with the...other really spoilery plotlines going on that I'm not going to mention. The only way to be really sure about how you're interpreting things is to re-play her path as a dom and see how that pans out. I'm not exactly willing to do that.

At the end of the day, you're right. It's a game, I am generally fine with suspending most of my values/believes, like I said, if you're just looking for a quick fap, this game has all the right stuff to tick those fetishes. I think on my end, I just expected a bit more from this singular dynamic since every other character fills the other aspects just fine.

I warmly recommend the game Android Life, its funny as hell and its nice femdom, especially in vibes!!!

Played it, love it ^_^;; It DOES actually address my concerns, which I appreciate. but again, its not like I'm against the harsh and dirty stuff either, like Alex can totally do that stuff to add to the humiliation. I think that's hot in itself...but at some point, when everything is said and done a simple "I love you" or "this was so fun, I love it" goes a very long way

 

[Aseratrix]

Honestly at that point, its just not my thing. The biggest issue is the timing of the game. I realize we (the players) are spanning this over months, that's especially true to the dev and in regards to the writing. The main issue is they fell in love super fast, literally like 2 days in game time, and this whole thing happens in less than a week, so what the relationship is or was built on is changed almost instantly. There is clearly more things going on, especially with the...other really spoilery plotlines going on that I'm not going to mention. The only way to be really sure about how you're interpreting things is to re-play her path as a dom and see how that pans out. I'm not exactly willing to do that.

At the end of the day, you're right. It's a game, I am generally fine with suspending most of my values/believes, like I said, if you're just looking for a quick fap, this game has all the right stuff to tick those fetishes. I think on my end, I just expected a bit more from this singular dynamic since every other character fills the other aspects just fine.



Played it, love it ^_^;; It DOES actually address my concerns, which I appreciate. but again, its not like I'm against the harsh and dirty stuff either, like Alex can totally do that stuff to add to the humiliation. I think that's hot in itself...but at some point, when everything is said and done a simple "I love you" or "this was so fun, I love it" goes a very long way

I consider this game a very good game, given that despite many games being tagged with femdom, only a handful really are femdom. So, while I can imagine my own femdom story would be different and in some ways deeper, I am just so grateful for any bona fide femdom like a pilgrim in Sahara is for a drop of water.

 

[aigimilan]

Hello. I've already seen a post about this issue, but I didn't find it in any of my test runs. Perhaps, if you send me your save file before this moment on pm, I could find the bug.

I'll download it and see if I can replicate it again. Honestly, after the third time I just deleted it. But I will attempt to get to that again.

I've also noticed some other issues, like when Alex brings you to her house from the school, in the brief scene where she walks out of the school, you have control of your character and you can leave the school yourself, which cancels the trip with Alex. This itself might be the issue. Sometimes during some of the "scenes" you still have control of your character and can break the game entirely.

Try to use keyboard if you get stuck. These happens time to time with me too.

I was, thank you for the suggestion though. I appreciate the help

 

[Docdu69]

Hello Someone have a save with secondary ending with all classmates available ?

 

[Tentacle]

what is this? After i meet with the director I was expelled for not meeting the director and the game ends?

 

[heen20]

I'd appreciate it if you could enclose the last save of the last version when the new version comes out.

Every time a new version comes out, it takes a long time to start over.

 

[<sunrise>]

Every time a new version comes out, it takes a long time to start over.

Why? Just keep your save files/folder from old version, then insert in new version

 

[Dach1988]

any fix for the day 19 nightclub scenes it is bugged

 

[Miron HFG]

any fix for the day 19 nightclub scenes it is bugged

What exactly is the bug?

 

[Dach1988]

What exactly is the bug?

it play 2 video at same time the with diana for the first visite and the other is new