VN Ren'Py The Coven [v0.8] [Former Flame]

[Boehser Onkel]

That was afterwards tho ... And the inmediate hot scene was over with

So yeah that was not hot anymore ... But also that part was explained on why they would maybe had to murder the mc

But again that didnt happen did it

So yeah kind of ridiculous to get your panties in a twist about something that is well explained in the game itself

And people who complain about this mind control thing is funny

Caus they would be the same people that wouldnt even mind it if the roles were reversed in games

But simply caus its the MC this time its omgggg how dare they

While in fact it is maybe shady that they did that to the MC.... But its nothing too terrible and the whole thing was explained by the Mom and the Nurse and headmistress explained alot as well

So yeah if ur still butthurt over a scene like that ... Then just move on imo.... Since there are plenty of games out here

Bit ridiculous to change the whole story for a handfull of people just saying

show me the point where lillith explained the hj mindfuck?

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

That was afterwards tho ... And the inmediate hot scene was over with

So yeah that was not hot anymore ... But also that part was explained on why they would maybe had to murder the mc

But again that didnt happen did it

So yeah kind of ridiculous to get your panties in a twist about something that is well explained in the game itself

And people who complain about this mind control thing is funny

Caus they would be the same people that wouldnt even mind it if the roles were reversed in games

But simply caus its the MC this time its omgggg how dare they

While in fact it is maybe shady that they did that to the MC.... But its nothing too terrible and the whole thing was explained by the Mom and the Nurse and headmistress explained alot as well

So yeah if ur still butthurt over a scene like that ... Then just move on imo.... Since there are plenty of games out here

Bit ridiculous to change the whole story for a handfull of people just saying

Lol what? The amount of people complaining is almost even with the amount of actual Patreons. Like if you're so in love with the game,throw the dev some money. Cuz I'd be willing to bet decent money you're not one of his 28 supporters.

Obviously something's off with this game or it would have gained more traction by now.

Instead of blindly white knighting, make suggestions to improve it. Because the beautiful thing about the internet is,none of our opinions matter. Only the Devs does. So we can complain,you can white knight,and at the end of the day,it's up to the dev.

 

[Boehser Onkel]

Lol what? The amount of people complaining is almost even with the amount of actual Patreons. Like if you're so in love with the game,throw the dev some money. Cuz I'd be willing to bet decent money you're not one of his 28 supporters.

Obviously something's off with this game or it would have gained more traction by now.

Instead of blindly white knighting, make suggestions to improve it. Because the beautiful thing about the internet is,none of our opinions matter. Only the Devs does. So we can complain,you can white knight,and at the end of the day,it's up to the dev.

... and he (dev) stated he makes 2 versions of this scene - which is awesome

 

[ben_sylar]

Caus they would be the same people that wouldnt even mind it if the roles were reversed in games

That's a nice strawman you've built there. I'm sure some people are like that, but assuming everyone is like that is just asanine.

 

[HansDampf788]

... and he (dev) stated he makes 2 versions of this scene - which is awesome

So what? That is one scene that gets an alternative but the bigger problem of the MC not reacting at all after learning his family altered his memories multiple times doesn't get changed or that he was basically abducted and hurt in the stupid trial is nothing he should be angry about? At this point the MC should burn that fucking school down with all the witches in it.

 

[Boehser Onkel]

So what? That is one scene that gets an alternative but the bigger problem of the MC not reacting at all after learning his family altered his memories multiple times doesn't get changed or that he was basically abducted and hurt in the stupid trial is nothing he should be angry about? At this point the MC should burn that fucking school down with all the witches in it.

well

read some (much) older posts of mine here ....and the discusion after this
all this was stated atleast once short after first release ...

 

[Madarahyuuga]

Android?

 

[mrttao]

So because she's in a lesbian relationship with 3 daughters it has got to be political huh?

To be fair to the poster. It usually is politicized.
Anyways, so far in this game there is no gender politics at all.

not to mention that you come of as very bigoted.

You do realize you irony here, right? you are basically proving his point.

Scratching my head here, in the introduction to Andrea and "her family" it shows she has 3 daughters .... how? Previous relationship (with a man), adoption? Given the incessant need some feel to include incessant political themes or advocacy for either spectrum of the political landscape in any and every piece of entertainment, I would hope that at least porn is safe from that bullshit. If that crap is advocacy for lgbt.......etc. please tell me now so I can ignore this.

Forget it, read some comments that hinted that the mc gets his memory wiped several times in the game after he is taken advantage of and does the same to other people? Disgusting, yeah this game is going in my ignore list.

The in game justification seems to be that male witches are super rare (you are the first in 150 years) and due to witch law all witches must sign a blood oath to memory wipe knowledge of magic from any relative that does not have magical ability (including any of their children who fail to inherit magic).
Resulting in lots of frustrated bisexual women who have difficulty maintaining relationship with men due to inability to share their secret life with them.
Also this is one of those "totally not incest" where your mother is called "landlady" so the game does not bring up who your biological father is.

As of v0.4 I have not seen any gender politics in the game. Rather the scenario is setup to create a case where the MC is the only man who then fucks all the girls.

 

[kcoope89]

Looks good I'll have to keep my eye on this one

 

[weirdscix]

You're not understanding the problem.
The problem isn't the content.
The problem is the MC's reaction, it doesn't feel right or believable.

Here is an example;

In the shower he's hiding behind the shower curtain asking for the towel, if he doesn't care about being seen naked then just walk out and get the towel, thats what I'd do since I personally don't give a shit about being naked in-front of people who have no problem with me being naked.

So either the MC doesn't want to be seen naked and thus this scene is sexual harassment or the MC doesn't care about being naked and thus should have no problem just walking out and getting his own towel.

Its strange to try and have the scene both ways, being too timid to come out and get the towel only to then come out and stand there and NOT get the towel.
Those girls weren't even holding it, it was just sitting there and he could have picked it up.


Another example is with Anna, the MC didn't immediately try to contact her to see if she's ok, in stead she had to call and it took about a week. That doesn't seem like a good reaction upon learning what the MC leaned after he put her in a sex coma.

Its the reactions, not the content itself.

Or maybe he just enjoyed the back and forth with the girl, it does seem like he knows her quite well. He made no effort to hide himself or to get the towel. He never said anything which suggested he was distressed with the situation.

I've only played just beyond that point but I do agree his reactions to other things just don't seem realistic.

I was waiting for him to kick off when he was told he was staying at the school and he just didn't react at all, plus what you said about not contacting Anna which to me would have been the first thing he did.

 

[HogRocket]

Just played the latest update. My previous saves didn't work, thank goodness, and I had to play through from the start again
I had forgotten how great the girls look in this game. Can't really tell if the story is going to be earth shaking or not, but at least it's somewhat original and moving well at this point. At this point I've narrowed it down to my 11 girls....

 

[AmerHST]

I guess some of us are better at being able to separate the game from real life. Ahh well. I wash my hands of this argument.

Let me guess, you laugh at people when they get teary eyed if an imaginary character dies in a movie or a book? and proceed to tell them "why are you sad it's not real life"

 

[KnuckleDragger79]

Let me guess, you laugh at people when they get teary eyed if an imaginary character dies in a movie or a book? and proceed to tell them "why are you sad it's not real life"

Yes I do laugh at them and no, I don't say a word to them.

 

[Look-see]

was hoping the Sura sex scene would be made optional.

but in general this game is reaaaaaly text heavy. hardly any choices on how mc responds or acts in general. there were so many times to give MC options on character interaction to mold MC as a person or how he sees certain characters. but yeah theres barely any choices.

 

[HornyyPussy]

To be fair to the poster. It usually is politicized.
Anyways, so far in this game there is no gender politics at all.

You do realize you irony here, right? you are basically proving his point.

Have still to see a game where a lesbian couple having daughters is politicized, the facts that they have daughters isn't political at all unless you make that assumption your self or the Dev expressively makes it so.

How am I proving his point by saying he sounds bigoted? " If that crap is advocacy for lgbt " that little nugget right there is enough to draw that conclussion.


Anywho, for me this discussion is over. I really like the start to this VN and I have no problems with the HJ or mom erasing the MC's memory to keep them safe. His reaction could maybe have been a little stronger but the scene with his mom when he got back from the dryads where enough for me. This is a Adult fantasy VN and I'll treat it as such, not reality.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

I find myself wondering if these other male witches were actually 'evil'. Or if they just had an excuse me what the fuck moment,and got murdered for it

 

[Bitternsalty]

any chance we can get a new mega link?

 

[weirdscix]

Well I've played this through completely now. The female teen character models are varied and attractive, the older ones not so much. The renders are usually decent. The MC's lack of reactions to basically anything is a bit annoying, it's like his character has no backbone. Story wise I don't know enough yet, but I'm intrigued.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Well I've played this through completely now. The female teen character models are varied and attractive, the older ones not so much. The renders are usually decent. The MC's lack of reactions to basically anything is a bit annoying, it's like his character has no backbone. Story wise I don't know enough yet, but I'm intrigued.

I found everything up until this last update pretty interesting. I don't know why, but everything seemed really bland and wasn't doing it for me in the new content. But yeah, hopefully MC will eventually grow as a character and become stronger. I can kind of get it since this all was just thrust onto him without knowing anything about this type of stuff existing. I'd probably be hesitant, too, about a lot of things.

 

[Boehser Onkel]

I found everything up until this last update pretty interesting. I don't know why, but everything seemed really bland and wasn't doing it for me in the new content. But yeah, hopefully MC will eventually grow as a character and become stronger. I can kind of get it since this all was just thrust onto him without knowing anything about this type of stuff existing. I'd probably be hesitant, too, about a lot of things.

dev stated that this update was on "home-story"