fortuna95

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People I want Sophia to bang that make sense based on her personality and inner thoughts

Dylan
Sam
Daughter (forgot her name)
Two college boys from the Museum
Soccer mom
Maid
Husband
Sister
Ryan (gym instructor)
Blonde Gym guy (she expressed attraction to him alongside Ryan, guess she doesnt like super bulky dudes)
Sam's sister
Sam's mom
threesome with her friend that is getting married
maybe there is some stuff later with student girl in the 1st row
 
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atlas114

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walk through really not needed. the choices basically tells you what good or bad path to take; and you can roll back if needed.
 

Rythan25

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maybe there is some stuff later with student girl in the 1st row
Yeah when I put the students on the no-bang list I literally just meant the dudes in the back of the classroom, the girl that thinks she's too cool for school, the dumb rapper, the "tough guy", etc.

The nerdy girl that gets bullied I could see her getting some "attention", might start with a home tutoring thing, then she tries to "break her out of her shell", than she starts kissing, patting, and eventually sex.
 

Rythan25

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It's literally identical.

  • Heaps of praise after the 0.1 showed insane amounts of potential
  • Delays/underwhelming updates follow leaving the people who originally praised the game slightly disappointed but still looking forward to more update
  • "w-w-who cares if he missed the deadlines he set"
  • "WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO COMPLAIN, WE'RE PIRATES"
  • "This game is MORE than just a porn game!"
  • "It's about the build up!"
  • A few vocal defenders parroting the exact same comments every 5 pages ("Dude, if you want braindead porn go watch a porno!") and completely misrepresenting any of the legitimate criticisms that the game receives

Literally identical. Gonna be fun to see when (and if) those defenders eventually turn on this developer just like they did in the Dual Family thread

*grabs popcorn*
You forgot the MOST important criticism of Dual Family... the one that made me stop playing, and look at the thread there to make sure it wasnt just me being weird... The game is ****ing depressing... Literally it could have one or two sex scenes per route up to the "visit aunt at beach" and two more at the aunt's house, and I'd would have still stopped playing, hard to get a boner when the entire atmosphere is that depressing, I literally not only expected NO ONE to get laid, I thought 2 of the main 6 characters would off themselves at any moment...
 
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grapedog

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the more lesbian options the better too. I'm not, and never have been a hardcore corruption guy. In my head it seems much easier for a frustrated woman, or man for that matter, to look at the same sex first, especially the same sex when you're seeing them constantly(neighbors/workout buddies), someone familiar.... as opposed to random dudes on the street. Realistically it's an easier corruption path, a woman seeing another woman naked in the changing room or shower room, and then getting those thoughts. So I prefer that path initially, before branching out into other paths.

I just hate trash like good girl gone bad. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many times you have to tell that muscle bound idiot to fuck the fuck off. And even when he finally gets a fucking clue, he is still all over the fucking game.
 

titokm10

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Sure thing

Small amount of content relative to how long it takes to release, missed deadlines (multiple), extremely underwhelming "lewd" scenes specifically in the Filthy path so far, pointlessly bland scenes like the Mother getting oogled at by those homeless guys (characters nobody cares about) and all in all, barring the Wife+Husband sex scene (a scene I doubt most even saw due to most people going the Filthy route) and the developer just doesn't know how to do sexy scenes imo.

I mean, what even was that tickle scene? The son didn't even register what happened and the mother lost her mind over grazing his crotch. What's sexy about that exactly? How is that even build up? Or even the swimming pool scene felt entirely pointless. What even happened? The lewdest thing is her Shirt became slightly transparent and that's it?

Seems to me more like pointless padding as opposed to actual build up. For example, the mother was more intimate with the sons friend in the first version of the game (outright kissing him on the cheek, noticing how wrong it was and wiping away her lipstick etc) than she is 3 updates later. That's build down, not build up. Or the scene where the son and his friend saw the mother outright in lingere. Or what about when the mother heard the son saying naughty shit about her in his sleep.

All of that isn't even mentioned in the recent update. How is that realistic? How is it that the sexual tension is going down and not up? Each update just feels less and less raunchy as far as the filthy path is concerned at least and it really looks like the developer needlessly padding things out without having a clear vision in mind. He seems more concerned with wasting 2 weeks on some lighting bug that nobody would have noticed anyway as opposed to actually giving us some meaningful content. Nobody cares about bugs, these are literally alpha/beta versions of your game. Give us content and then iron out the bugs for the 1.0 release in the future (Which at this rate, Cyberpunk 2077 will likely be out before then, if it ever releases that is).

Give us some sexy teacher shit, let her leaving the door open while changing (even if it's on accident) and catch her son spying on her. Give us some more "lotion" scenes like the Mother & Daughter scene which was done well and less of the "oh, my daughter almost caught me watching porn, time to completely blow it out of proportion and overreact internally by having 50000000000 renders of my face scowling".

But by all means, keep acting like people are just mad because "HURR, NO SEX SCENES R BADZZZZ"
Wow mate i respect you opinion but don´t talk on behalf of all of us on what scenes we like or don´t.
 

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Jesus, the Updates are getting shorter and shorter everytime. The Husband has a small dick, so it's a guarantee that she will cheat, so the Good Wife Route is worthless. The Dev is pushing everything to the future updates which makes the current game boring, unappealing and memorable.
 

starfire97

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Game has a lot of potential, and I enjoyed playing it through the current end point despite the lack of actual sex scenes. Obviously the developer is very ambitious, as he has introduced a multitude of characters at this point.

It is a little aggravating how much time he spends creating unnecessary renders however (if that is the correct term). Why have multiple shots of the MC walking across a room? I feel like he could speed up the plot of the game by cutting down on this significantly.

I don't mind slow burn games and I appreciate the effort to make a corruption storyline seem more realistic and organic (let's be honest, though - at some point, these games necessarily sink into unrealistic territory). Characterization is important to make the sexy scenes more exciting (otherwise, we could just watch HD porn videos). But at some point you have to move things along. I really appreciate the effort being put into this game though!
 
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lesbiaN7ncest

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One thing I'm a little concerned about going forward is if you largely take the lesbian route as to whether you're going to be lacking in Filthy score to actually do anything with the women. For example towards the end of this last update...

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So I'm a bit concerned that going ahead if you take a purely lesbian route while these temptation moments will come up you'll suddenly be blocked from doing anything too serious because the filthy points aren't up there. Unless the Lesbian Temptation stat overrides these with its own somewhat filthy point-esque stat specifically for those moments?
 

Lust&Passion

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This paragraph alone tells me you missed the entire point of my post.

Why does "more build up" mean "showing her asshole off" to you, exactly? I even gave specific examples of build up. You're completely either intentionally misrepresenting my argument (Like I predicted people would) or you're just not understanding it at all.




It's right at the end of my post

"Give us some sexy teacher shit, let her leaving the door open while changing (even if it's on accident) and catch her son spying on her. Give us some more "lotion" scenes like the Mother & Daughter scene which was done well and less of the "oh, my daughter almost caught me watching porn, time to completely blow it out of proportion and overreact internally by having 50000000000 renders of my face scowling". Give me a drunk scene. Give me a help with homework scene where the "filthy option" is to wear something a little more lewd (showing cleavage etc). "

Obviously i'm not saying the developer has to do any of the above as these are just examples of what i'm talking about, but those would satisfy both people who enjoy "realistic build up " (everyone of those scenarios is realistic) and those who want "saucier scenes". There's a clear distinction in my mind between "good build up" and "bad build up". The former has substance (son seeing the mom in lingere, mother hearing the son saying dirty shit about her in his bed, son helping her with her dress, Mother putting lotion on the daughter), the latter is usually braindead padding (Mother tickling the son, Daughter nearly catching the mother watching porn, etc)

There's plenty ways you can do build up without "showing your asshole". That's what I said at the start, I really just don't think that this developer knows how to do sexy scenes.

Because to me, a mother taking a shit/piss in the same bathroom as her son, isn't that sexy.. And what makes it even stranger is the fact that it seemed like the developer knew what he was doing in the 0.1 version but ever since then, the game has been DE-escalating instead of actually escalating.

That's why I draw so many Dual Family comparisons. This game seems like a virtual repeat of that game and we all know how that one turned out.
You really should relax and be a little more patient. I got a story written for 30 playable days and we are at playable day 5 (next update)! Yes you're right that some current events aren't the hottest possible. But this is just the beginning and it will gradually get hotter and lewder. At the filthy path Sophia just starts to get really filthier. But this also doesn't mean that in 2 days she will suck the cock of some stranger! It just gives her the chance to think about some options which would be out of the question on the good wife route. Most of the events of the last updates I didn't even plan but had to include because of showing at least "something" like many people wanted!
I thought about referring to the scene when Sam and Dylan saw Sophia in lingerie at Day 2. But I changed my mind because it just wasn't necessary IMO.

There's an own story plot for Sophia as a teacher. The main story line with Sophia and Dylan hasn't even started yet! There are story lines with almost every character, some longer some shorter. With the next update we're at day 12 (playable day 5/30). Mom/son and also Mom/daughter main plot (real approach) starts at day 14 (playable day 7/30)! The school main plot starts at day 16 (playable day 9/30). Everything what happened with Dylan yet was just a little relationship build up. The same applies to Sam and everything else! You just got to know all characters. The tickle scene was just to show you that Sophia reacted more relaxed at the end when Dylan touched her accidentally. She just wanted to cheer him up. What's so wrong about that? But the touch was accidentally so it doesn't mean that Sophia will let her son grope her the next time on purpose of course!
Some character story lines will overlap and influence each other.

Sophia wasn't shitting, she was peeing! That's a huge difference!

The two criminal dirty guys near the school will still be important and also Sophia's decision how she reacted on their pick up lines! There are no events which have no sense in my script! Almost every decision will have a big or small effect on the further story development. By saying "give me this, give me that" you demand that I finish the whole story with the next two updates! Unfortunately that's impossible.
It's very early to say, that I can't do "sexy scenes" at this stage of the story! And you're really claiming that the wife husband evening wasn't good written? You could play as Liam or Sophia, both different! There are even moaning/panting sounds which will be more in the future (for all main female characters different)! I thought people would see with that scene that I also can write a good ambitious erotic scene, even if it's just wife+husband but something different wouldn't make any sense at this moment.

I'll try to reduce the renders for less important scenes even more to bring you to the main plots finally.

Last but not least. I read that some smiled at the lighting problem. If you've never worked with Daz Studio, I mean really worked and not just rendered few simple preset scenes with one character, then it is very difficult to comprehend. First of all it was 1 week and not 2 for the lighting issue and maybe 5 additional days to change the home optic which was made for RPG Maker at first. To make the home look more like a mansion inside. The lighting problem was big and nobody in the Daz Studio help forum had an answer because nobody is creating such huge scenes like I do. So I had to solve the problem on my own and it came out that using some particular lighting for the interior and using surface lights outside (even environment light) run afoul together in Iray, what gives the characters a comic look (glossy skin parts are black + whole scene gets darker with more outside surface lights on! Etc.). So I found my own solution how to combine background lights and my new interior light system.
The proper lighting is maybe the most important and at the same time most difficult thing in Daz Studio, so the renders look beautiful and less noisy! So before laughing at that, just google and inform yourself about the difficulty of proper interior lighting with little noise in Daz Studio! Especially with huge background sets, which influence it (what almost nobody knows cause nobody does that but me)! So it was very necessary to solve this issue. And this was just a little part of it!
And it was everything but fun for me too! It was VERY ANNOYING to suffer with it and I also rather wanted to continue to work on the game! But it had to be done or there WOULD HAVE BEEN a visible difference!

I hope that this has clarified some things a little bit for you.
 

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All games with huge penis was only made by smaldickheads :p The story only turn on: What a big cock...
 
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atlas114

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i just can't wait for the next update. it's a long way to go between now and the end of the month. :FeelsBadMan::FeelsBadMan::FeelsBadMan:
 

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You really should relax and be a little more patient. I got a story written for 30 playable days and we are at playable day 5 (next update)! Yes you're right that some current events aren't the hottest possible. But this is just the beginning and it will gradually get hotter and lewder. At the filthy path Sophia just starts to get really filthier. But this also doesn't mean that in 2 days she will suck the cock of some stranger! It just gives her the chance to think about some options which would be out of the question on the good wife route. Most of the events of the last updates I didn't even plan but had to include because of showing at least "something" like many people wanted!
I thought about referring to the scene when Sam and Dylan saw Sophia in lingerie at Day 2. But I changed my mind because it just wasn't necessary IMO.

There's an own story plot for Sophia as a teacher. The main story line with Sophia and Dylan hasn't even started yet! There are story lines with almost every character, some longer some shorter. With the next update we're at day 12 (playable day 5/30). Mom/son and also Mom/daughter main plot (real approach) starts at day 14 (playable day 7/30)! The school main plot starts at day 16 (playable day 9/30). Everything what happened with Dylan yet was just a little relationship build up. The same applies to Sam and everything else! You just got to know all characters. The tickle scene was just to show you that Sophia reacted more relaxed at the end when Dylan touched her accidentally. She just wanted to cheer him up. What's so wrong about that? But the touch was accidentally so it doesn't mean that Sophia will let her son grope her the next time on purpose of course!
Some character story lines will overlap and influence each other.

Sophia wasn't shitting, she was peeing! That's a huge difference!

The two criminal dirty guys near the school will still be important and also Sophia's decision how she reacted on their pick up lines! There are no events which have no sense in my script! Almost every decision will have a big or small effect on the further story development. By saying "give me this, give me that" you demand that I finish the whole story with the next two updates! Unfortunately that's impossible.
It's very early to say, that I can't do "sexy scenes" at this stage of the story! And you're really claiming that the wife husband evening wasn't good written? You could play as Liam or Sophia, both different! There are even moaning/panting sounds which will be more in the future (for all main female characters different)! I thought people would see with that scene that I also can write a good ambitious erotic scene, even if it's just wife+husband but something different wouldn't make any sense at this moment.

I'll try to reduce the renders for less important scenes even more to bring you to the main plots finally.

Last but not least. I read that some smiled at the lighting problem. If you've never worked with Daz Studio, I mean really worked and not just rendered few simple preset scenes with one character, then it is very difficult to comprehend. First of all it was 1 week and not 2 for the lighting issue and maybe 5 additional days to change the home optic which was made for RPG Maker at first. To make the home look more like a mansion inside. The lighting problem was big and nobody in the Daz Studio help forum had an answer because nobody is creating such huge scenes like I do. So I had to solve the problem on my own and it came out that using some particular lighting for the interior and using surface lights outside (even environment light) run afoul together in Iray, what gives the characters a comic look (glossy skin parts are black + whole scene gets darker with more outside surface lights on! Etc.). So I found my own solution how to combine background lights and my new interior light system.
The proper lighting is maybe the most important and at the same time most difficult thing in Daz Studio, so the renders look beautiful and less noisy! So before laughing at that, just google and inform yourself about the difficulty of proper interior lighting with little noise in Daz Studio! Especially with huge background sets, which influence it (what almost nobody knows cause nobody does that but me)! So it was very necessary to solve this issue. And this was just a little part of it!
And it was everything but fun for me too! It was VERY ANNOYING to suffer with it and I also rather wanted to continue to work on the game! But it had to be done or there WOULD HAVE BEEN a visible difference!

I hope that this has clarified some things a little bit for you.
I like your game very much and I wish it was finished, yet I can wait.
 

a55555

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wewlad and the dev both have valid points...and actually the dev may be right in all regards but he's only putting out 5 scenes every 2 months now so it will take forever to do what he wants. wewlad approach has the best of both worlds so his approach may work better for the dev.
 

Viatovic

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I'm still waiting for legitimate criticisms of this game to show up...
That's like living in the dessert and waiting for a tsunami...
I'm so tired... this thread is the absolutely worst the days after release...
Because is always the same shit... from the same people.

Not enough renders...
Not fast enough...
Not enough skin...
Since day one, this dev has been promising a different experience... not better or worse, just different.
Yet, here you are, complaining and trying to force the dev to offers us what you see as a "normal" experience.

That doesn't mean that there aren't any problems...
It's obvious that the dev is still a rookie... he can and IS getting better...
I saw people crying about "two months without update"... wtf is wrong with you?
We had one in March, and we had another just at the end of April... true, there were problems with delays.
But the dev was clear about it, he warned you all.

There is almost zero talk about what the game is, while the focus seems to be "what the game should be just because I SAY SO".
If you don't like it... don't play it, it's that simple.
Don't support it, don't troll in this thread, just forget that it exists and do something worthy with your life.
 
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