VN Ren'Py Natsumi Love Story [v0.4.6] [Steradianfauns]

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There won't be any NTR or behind the scene NTR to MC's girls, any plot that looks like it will be an NTR is actually a fight against NTR, so the NTR attempt have to exist in the stories. But again, there's no NTR to MC's girls.
HUH? so no ntr to mc's girl but there is ntr to to other girls. like another girl is being blackmailed to sex. and the plot is fighting againts ntr? :WaitWhat::WaitWhat: I'm gonna step out, Im not vibing with this game anymore.
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HUH? so no ntr to mc's girl but there is ntr to to other girls. like another girl is being blackmailed to sex. and the plot is fighting againts ntr? :WaitWhat::WaitWhat: I'm gonna step out, Im not vibing with this game anymore.
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I think what the developer, SteradianFauns, means is that there may be moments that look like they will lead to NTR, and in other games probably would, but in this game, they will be stopped. And if Pan Hero (the dev's other game) is anything to go by, they will be stopped in brutal ways. I don't think any character, Love Interest or not, will be having sex with anyone but the MC or each other if they a bisexual and both in his harem, but I can't be 100% sure. I would say I'm 80% sure the developer won't have any character banging any girl who could be a LI. I have yet to play the latest update but from the developer's comments and other game this is my assumption of what they mean by, "Even if it looks like it might be NTR, it won't be."

I think this game is taking some inspiration from Harem Highlander, it is meant to be a fight against and victory over NTR, but to have that the NTR build up needs to be there so you can defeat it, but you will always defeat it.
 
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I think what the developer, SteradianFauns, means is that there may be moments that look like they will lead to NTR, and in other games probably would, but in this game, they will be stopped. And if Pan Hero (the dev's other game) is anything to go by, they will be stopped in brutal ways. I don't think any character, Love Interest or not, will be having sex with anyone but the MC or each other if they a bisexual and both in his harem, but I can't be 100% sure. I would say I'm 80% sure the developer won't have any character banging any girl who could be a LI. I have yet to play the latest update but from the developer's comments and other game this is my assumption of what they mean by, "Even if it looks like it might be NTR, it won't be."

I think this game is taking some inspiration from Harem Highlander, it is meant to be a fight against and victory over NTR, but to have that the NTR build up needs to be there so you can defeat it, but you will always defeat it.
Glad you mentioned characters that are NOT LI will not get banged.. I have bad news for you.
 

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Ngl, I got really interested when I've read the summary. But then I've read the comments regarding the plot and my interest quickly went out of the window. It's pretty weird or just plain stupid.

-It's not really a Harem tbh. The "Harem" that isn't really a harem is more like a polyamorous relationship. Add the fact that I don't really like sharing LIs with another LI regardless of gender.
-Forced lesbian isn't really my cup of tea. Some will enjoy it, but since it's not optional and is more of a major focus in the plot, then it just doesn't interest me.
-The NTR talks here are really very confusing that I don't even know what to think of it.

I could list many more, but it will all lead to the ending. The "inevitable marriage the will happen in the future."
-Yeah why? This is more or less a Kinetic Novel. We won't be getting choices which could change the outcome of the story. If that's the ending we will inevitably get then I'm really gonna pass. I can still try to go with the "The journey is better than the destination" route but if I didn't really enjoy the journey as well then what's the point?

To me, this is probably one of those games where I'll probably try it when it's done and on it's final version. But the question is, Will it even arrive to that point? The dev released another game: The Daily Life of Pan Hero and will be the dev's Main Project. And apparently, it's not gonna be a KN anymore and kinks like lesbian, bdsm, anal won't be forced but optional this time. Idk about NTR there though since to me, the approach here is still very confusing. I just have to wait and see it seems. That said, Isn't it too early to move and add another game in development? And the fact that most of the people's requests on this game were applied on the other which became the main project. Those just scream ON-HOLD and ABANDONED for this game to me. I will take a look at the other game though since that interests me more than this game.
 
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The further away from the start of this the worse the bad english gets
 

SteradianFauns

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Seeing the spoilers on the Discord channel really helped alleviate the anger and anticipation of that Chapter 3 ending. Also, what was that "similar" anti-NTR plot from?
I read one hentai that have anti-NTR plot in nhentai, but I couldn't remember the name nor the code.

It was interesting until i read the comments and the explanation lol (forced lesbian its not my thing :HideThePain: ) By the way, the ntr has no defined gender, so if the mc is in a relationship with a LI and she has sex with another girl behind the mc's back, it's ntr, be careful with that.

As someone said above impregnation, without seeing a belly it doesn't make sense it's just a creampie,leaving that aside, dev what you are describing is not harem but rather sounds like a polyamorous relationship..

Good Luck.
No she won't have sex with another girl behind mc's back.
Still no plans for pregnant sex, but someone suggested to me to make a poll later on for this, but even so it's for patron only of course.

Okay, I've read some explanations for the harem and polyamorous relationship, and I guess the story is going to the polyamorous relationship direction, but mc will still have relationship with all the LI.

I've just finished the last release and I have an unexpected sense of protectiveness blossoming in me. If you don't make the guy end up with his dick in is own mouth, and his balls in his nose, I will do it myself. :devilish:

That being said, no project for a subscribestar account?
No, he won't end up with his dick in his own mouth nor his balls in his nose. But he will suffer worse than that :)
I haven't gotten around to make a subscribestar account, soon.

I think what the developer, SteradianFauns, means is that there may be moments that look like they will lead to NTR, and in other games probably would, but in this game, they will be stopped. And if Pan Hero (the dev's other game) is anything to go by, they will be stopped in brutal ways. I don't think any character, Love Interest or not, will be having sex with anyone but the MC or each other if they a bisexual and both in his harem, but I can't be 100% sure. I would say I'm 80% sure the developer won't have any character banging any girl who could be a LI. I have yet to play the latest update but from the developer's comments and other game this is my assumption of what they mean by, "Even if it looks like it might be NTR, it won't be."

I think this game is taking some inspiration from Harem Highlander, it is meant to be a fight against and victory over NTR, but to have that the NTR build up needs to be there so you can defeat it, but you will always defeat it.
Exactly like this guy said. I was torn between making the NTR guy already NTR'd other girls or make Natsumi his first attempt, or no mention of him ever NTR'd other girls. I decided to go with the first options so it feels more dangerous (as it's not his first time), and what will happen to him will feel more justified, and so satisfying.

Ngl, I got really interested when I've read the summary. But then I've read the comments regarding the plot and my interest quickly went out of the window. It's pretty weird or just plain stupid.

-It's not really a Harem tbh. The "Harem" that isn't really a harem is more like a polyamorous relationship. Add the fact that I don't really like sharing LIs with another LI regardless of gender.
-Forced lesbian isn't really my cup of tea. Some will enjoy it, but since it's not optional and is more of a major focus in the plot, then it just doesn't interest me.
-The NTR talks here are really very confusing that I don't even know what to think of it.

I could list many more, but it will all lead to the ending. The "inevitable marriage the will happen in the future."
-Yeah why? This is more or less a Kinetic Novel. We won't be getting choices which could change the outcome of the story. If that's the ending we will inevitably get then I'm really gonna pass. I can still try to go with the "The journey is better than the destination" route but if I didn't really enjoy the journey as well then what's the point?

To me, this is probably one of those games where I'll probably try it when it's done and on it's final version. But the question is, Will it even arrive to that point? The dev released another game: The Daily Life of Pan Hero and will be the dev's Main Project. And apparently, it's not gonna be a KN anymore and kinks like lesbian, bdsm, anal won't be forced but optional this time. Idk about NTR there though since to me, the approach here is still very confusing. I just have to wait and see it seems. That said, Isn't it too early to move and add another game in development? And the fact that most of the people's requests on this game were applied on the other which became the main project. Those just scream ON-HOLD and ABANDONED for this game to me. I will take a look at the other game though since that interests me more than this game.
This will take longer to finish, but it will get there. I only planned about 12 or 13 chapters for this game.

Natsumi Love Story was always meant to be a side project, at the time I want to see if I could make a visual novel, that's why this is a KN because it's a lot easier to develop. I will spent more time developing my other game, but that's mostly because it requires more time to work on the mechanics, locations, etc. But this won't be on hold nor abandoned.

The lesbian and anal sex scenes in this game is always planned to be skippable.
 

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SteradianFauns, I was writing this as you posted what you said, :ROFLMAO: Glad to see I was on the right track with my comments.

Finally played the latest update. It seems to me that the scene at the end with an unknown girl will likely stay an unknown girl. We are meant to see that this guy, whoever he is, has done this kind of thing before but we will be the ones who finally beat him at his game. And I have some additional thoughts:

Right now, we are meant to think it was Risa on the phone because of her comments before that, but I would bet money that it isn't. Her comments are likely about her current boyfriend and her not being excited about seeing him. Her seeing the MC and Natsumi together will likely be part of what pulls her back towards them. The MC and Nat were not exactly being careful and Risa seeing them shows that others could have seen them too. One of the other girls in the showers could have heard or seen them and then told the Bad Guy they were having sex at school and so he was following them for the next week hoping for an opportunity and only got it then. Or the unknown girl on the phone could be the friend we talked to in the cafeteria's girlfriend since he was waiting for her that day, maybe she also saw them that day and told the Blackmailer about it so he started following MC and Nat later. There are a lot of possibilities.

Glad you mentioned characters that are NOT LI will not get banged.. I have bad news for you.
Perhaps I should have clarified my thoughts: I meant that I think we will probably not see anyone else having sex who is not with the MC or both girls in the harem (which the dev said could be skipped).
 
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SteradianFauns, I was writing this as you posted what you said, :ROFLMAO: Glad to see I was on the right track with my comments.

Finally played the latest update. It seems to me that the scene at the end with an unknown girl will likely stay an unknown girl. We are meant to see that this guy, whoever he is, has done this kind of thing before but we will be the ones who finally beat him at his game. And I have some additional thoughts:

Right now, we are meant to think it was Risa on the phone because of her comments before that, but I would bet money that it isn't. Her comments are likely about her current boyfriend and her not being excited about seeing him. Her seeing the MC and Natsumi together will likely be part of what pulls her back towards them. The MC and Nat were not exactly being careful and Risa seeing them shows that others could have seen them too. One of the other girls in the showers could have heard or seen them and then told the Bad Guy they were having sex at school and so he was following them for the next week hoping for an opportunity and only got it then. Or the unknown girl on the phone could be the friend we talked to in the cafeteria's girlfriend since he was waiting for her that day, maybe she also saw them that day and told the Blackmailer about it so he started following MC and Nat later. There are a lot of possibilities.


Perhaps I should have clarified my thoughts: I meant that I think we will probably not see anyone else having sex who is not with the MC or both girls in the harem (which the dev said could be skipped).
Again, exactly like this guy said :)

Also the chapter ending happened a week after MC and Natsumi started having sex in the school, and they just discover the awesomeness and lewdness of having exhibitionist sex. And when they first discover the awesomeness of sex, they went all night without stopping.
 

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The prologue really killed my desire to play the game, it remove any player agency since it's only that ending and the choices are either bad ends or progress a linear story. Also the fact the blonde tomboy became a parodically girly married woman really kills the "moe" of the character.
I usually hate the whole "Let's give a vision of future as a prologue" since it's generally bad writing but it allowed me to not spend time on something I wouldn't have liked so for once I'm ok with it.
 

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HUH? so no ntr to mc's girl but there is ntr to to other girls. like another girl is being blackmailed to sex. and the plot is fighting againts ntr? :WaitWhat::WaitWhat: I'm gonna step out, Im not vibing with this game anymore.
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Glad you mentioned characters that are NOT LI will not get banged.. I have bad news for you.
i already had issues with the future as the prologue. but i think this'll be the end for me.
 

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Okay, I've read some explanations for the harem and polyamorous relationship, and I guess the story is going to the polyamorous relationship direction, but mc will still have relationship with all the LI.
I can deal with polyamory as long as there are no dicks other than the MC's and I can avoid watching the lesbian scenes.

Exactly like this guy said. I was torn between making the NTR guy already NTR'd other girls or make Natsumi his first attempt, or no mention of him ever NTR'd other girls. I decided to go with the first options so it feels more dangerous (as it's not his first time), and what will happen to him will feel more justified, and so satisfying.
I personally prefer that those other girls who are NTR'd not appear throughout the game.

I guess I'll download the game to see if it might interest me.
 
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can anyone upload the incest patch to another uploader?









 
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Pls Upload the Patch on a Different site aswell Zippy locks out some Countries for some reason?
Dont wanna get a Vpn just for a patch xD

Edit: ive seen the Links Ty, still tho some1 should add the other links to the Mainpage
 
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Welp, looks like there's a few misunderstanding here, so I like to clear them up before other people get misunderstand as well.

1. MC and any of the LI WON'T get NTR'd, meaning LI won't have sex with any other guy than MC, meaning the LI won't have sex with both guys or girls behind MC's back or without MC knowing.

2. There's NO forced lesbian, there will be a lesbian scenes but it will be SKIPPABLE. In fact, so far there is still only one lesbian scene planned, and that is way into the future. As for the girl who played with other girl's boobs in the shower room, I didn't consider that as a lesbian scene, because they're supposed to be just best friends, and they're just a one time character who won't appear again in the future.

3. Why is there a plot to fight against NTR: It's simply because I hate NTR. No hate to the people who loves them, but it's not for me. I hate that in NTR, the NTR guy rarely get what they deserved (end up with his dick in is own mouth, and his balls in his nose, as one of you here said, to which I fully agree), I hate that the male lead just stand idly by as their love get stolen or doesn't even know it happened, and I hate that the girl lead succumb to the NTR guy simply because his dick is bigger or feels better. And I hate those so much that I want to write a plot where all of those is changed. Don't believe me? See my other game, see what happened to the people who tried to rape mc's girls. But to win against NTR, NTR itself have to exist in that world, that's why there's an attempt to one of mc's girls, but ONLY an attempt. But the NTR itself won't be shown, just mentioned like in the chapter 3 ending. Originally, this was supposed to be a different story, Yandere vs NTR. I'll explain later why it's added to this story.

4. Ka-chan (who appears in the prologue) or "a parodically girly married woman" is NOT Kashiwagi or "the blonde tomboy", they doesn't even look alike, Natsumi never even called Kashiwagi, Ka-chan. But yeah I get why some people can misunderstand that and it's my fault for not explaining this further. Ka-chan is just another one or probably two times character. There's two LI that doesn't appear in the prologue, and that's on purpose.

5. Why Natsumi who has a yandere potential fantasized about Risa: Because she's human? I mean I know she's just a character and not a real human, but who among us here never fantasized about things that we ended up regret fantasizing? Isn't that what post-nut clarity is all about? That's also why she's reluctant to share the fantasy with MC at first.

6. Why it's a polyamory rather than a harem: When I wrote this story, it was going to be a harem at first, but then I grew fond of Natsumi so I want her in every part of the story. If it's a harem, then the focus will keep switching between the harem members, and Natsumi will be sidelined. So I make it that every time a new girl join the relationship, it will be a threesome. But, if it's only a harem, I felt like it will get boring eventually because there's already a lot of harem story out there, both hentai and VN, and I wasn't that confident I could write a well-written character since this is my first writing. That's when I decided to combine this story with the Yandere vs NTR and give Natsumi the yandere potential. But a yandere and a harem doesn't work well, so to compromise, Natsumi will also own the harem, and that turn this into a polyamory, apparently.

7. Why is there so many misunderstanding: Because I thought I want to write with subtexts, since Lessons in Love, one of the VN that inspired me to do this has lots of them, and I want to see if I could do that as well. So, rather than writing a straightforward story, I write one with a couple of subtext that you can connect the dots yourself. Since I felt very happy when I read the discussion about the subtext explanation in Lessons in Love forums.
 
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8. Why MC and Natsumi doesn't marry each other: Originally this was an incest story, so obviously they can't marry each other, also Patreon doesn't allow incest, so I have to make an explanation that makes sense for both incest and non-incest version. The next part will be a massive spoiler, so don't read it if you don't want to know. Natsumi and MC does in fact marry each other, in the prologue Natsumi said that there's a day when she's the happiest, even more than her wedding day, that's the day MC and Natsumi married each other. But their marriage is not registered and not official.

Another massive spoiler In fact MC married all of the LI. Well except for the mom. If you look at Risa's hand in the prologue, she's wearing a wedding ring. But officially, MC only married Yui, because in Japan you can only legally marry one person, and I just want to add some kind of reality into the story.

9. Why MC marry Yui and why Natsumi marry other: That will be too much spoiler. But I hope my explanation this time is clear enough. If you don't like to share a girl with another girl even if it's a threesome or if you don't like lesbian scene even if the sex scene can be skipped, then I'm really sorry, this game is not for you, because those will happen. Maybe on my next game as I have lots of stories waiting to be turned into a VN, and many of which don't have these things.
 

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Welp, looks like there's a few misunderstanding here, so I like to clear them up before other people get misunderstand as well.

1. MC and any of the LI WON'T get NTR'd, meaning LI won't have sex with any other guy than MC, meaning the LI won't have sex with both guys or girls behind MC's back or without MC knowing.

2. There's NO forced lesbian, there will be a lesbian scenes but it will be SKIPPABLE. In fact, so far there is still only one lesbian scene planned, and that is way into the future. As for the girl who played with other girl's boobs in the shower room, I didn't consider that as a lesbian scene, because they're supposed to be just best friends, and they're just a one time character who won't appear again in the future.

3. Why is there a plot to fight against NTR: It's simply because I hate NTR. No hate to the people who loves them, but it's not for me. I hate that in NTR, the NTR guy rarely get what they deserved (end up with his dick in is own mouth, and his balls in his nose, as one of you here said, to which I fully agree), I hate that the male lead just stand idly by as their love get stolen or doesn't even know it happened, and I hate that the girl lead succumb to the NTR guy simply because his dick is bigger or feels better. And I hate those so much that I want to write a plot where all of those is changed. Don't believe me? See my other game, see what happened to the people who tried to rape mc's girls. But to win against NTR, NTR itself have to exist in that world, that's why there's an attempt to one of mc's girls, but ONLY an attempt. But the NTR itself won't be shown, just mentioned like in the chapter 3 ending. Originally, this was supposed to be a different story, Yandere vs NTR. I'll explain later why it's added to this story.

4. Ka-chan (who appears in the prologue) or "a parodically girly married woman" is NOT Kashiwagi or "the blonde tomboy", they doesn't even look alike, Natsumi never even called Kashiwagi, Ka-chan. But yeah I get why some people can misunderstand that and it's my fault for not explaining this further. Ka-chan is just another one or probably two times character. There's two LI that doesn't appear in the prologue, and that's on purpose.

5. Why Natsumi who has a yandere potential fantasized about Risa: Because she's human? I mean I know she's just a character and not a real human, but who among us here never fantasized about things that we ended up regret fantasizing? Isn't that what post-nut clarity is all about? That's also why she's reluctant to share the fantasy with MC at first.

6. Why it's a polyamory rather than a harem: When I wrote this story, it was going to be a harem at first, but then I grew fond of Natsumi so I want her in every part of the story. If it's a harem, then the focus will keep switching between the harem members, and Natsumi will be sidelined. So I make it that every time a new girl join the relationship, it will be a threesome. But, if it's only a harem, I felt like it will get boring eventually because there's already a lot of harem story out there, both hentai and VN, and I wasn't that confident I could write a well-written character since this is my first writing. That's when I decided to combine this story with the Yandere vs NTR and give Natsumi the yandere potential. But a yandere and a harem doesn't work well, so to compromise, Natsumi will also own the harem, and that turn this into a polyamory, apparently.

7. Why is there so many misunderstanding: Because I thought I want to write with subtexts, since Lessons in Love, one of the VN that inspired me to do this has lots of them, and I want to see if I could do that as well. So, rather than writing a straightforward story, I write one with a couple of subtext that you can connect the dots yourself. Since I felt very happy when I read the discussion about the subtext explanation in Lessons in Love forums.
8. Why MC and Natsumi doesn't marry each other: Originally this was an incest story, so obviously they can't marry each other, also Patreon doesn't allow incest, so I have to make an explanation that makes sense for both incest and non-incest version. The next part will be a massive spoiler, so don't read it if you don't want to know. Natsumi and MC does in fact marry each other, in the prologue Natsumi said that there's a day when she's the happiest, even more than her wedding day, that's the day MC and Natsumi married each other. But their marriage is not registered and not official.

Another massive spoiler In fact MC married all of the LI. Well except for the mom. If you look at Risa's hand in the prologue, she's wearing a wedding ring. But officially, MC only married Yui, because in Japan you can only legally marry one person, and I just want to add some kind of reality into the story.

9. Why MC marry Yui and why Natsumi marry other: That will be too much spoiler. But I hope my explanation this time is clear enough. If you don't like to share a girl with another girl even if it's a threesome or if you don't like lesbian scene even if the sex scene can be skipped, then I'm really sorry, this game is not for you, because those will happen. Maybe on my next game as I have lots of stories waiting to be turned into a VN, and many of which don't have these things.
I think it's good you are willing to clear things up for people who missed stuff, but I also think that others seem to be missing things that you had made pretty clear already. You shouldn't have needed to say all this and nothing you said surprised me and it shouldn't surprise anyone else either. I can't understand how people missed so many things you have done a good job of laying out in the story.

I don't want to insult anyone, but just reading the dialog in the story and the things you have already said here should have made it clear to anyone paying attention the type of story you are telling. The people who aren't getting your story just won't get it. You're doing fine in the way you are showing and telling things if people would just actually read and think about them and not get upset for no reason. I think a lot of people just don't want to have to think at all when they try to play games on this site, and then get mad when one doesn't treat them like children and explain everything in big letters.

Keep doing what you're doing and tell your story, I think it's good so far, and those of us who can understand a decent story will be here for you.
 

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Good job dev for at least being responsive.
The 2 things that made me stop playing though is 1. No pregnancy, only impregnation 2. The anti-NTR plot (I thought this would be more of a romantic story).

While I do not enjoy sharing MC's girls with other girls that much, if it was skippable, I probably would have continued.

I will probably pick up the game when it is completed, but it is not a game I feel like continuing right now, and good luck on your games.
 
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