I know this is specific post is a year old, but I just started playing this game again (I started the first release when it came out but set it aside for a while, a friend suggest I give it another go with this most recent release) and I also hate when bisexuality in forced on the girls and the Mc enjoying it is forced. So, I just saw this. And my god the cognitive dissonance in this post is top tear blind spot and strawman,
Literally, the examples you just used
are optional. There is an incest mod, because incest
is optional. The red heads and blonds
are optional because you can reject the girls. The straight sex
is optional, again because you can reject the girls and as you said, just avoid the game.
Lesbian stuff should be optional too, and it should be
really optional.
With that response out of the way the rest of this is more for others who read, hopefully including the developer:
I came to the thread because I just got the scene were Vanessa suddenly reveals that she is bisexual, which came out of nowhere, and I told her that what I do with Petra has nothing to do with her, and it seemed like that might close the route with Vanessa (the mod didn't say it did but her words made me think it might have so I came here to find out). (
NOTE: I wrote the rest of this section before I found the answer, though I think my statements still speak to how out of place the scene feels) That would suck, and now I'm looking in the thread to see if that was the case, because if it is then I may quite the game now, as such a choice from the developer speaks a lot about the developer's mindset as to how little they actually respect their player's limits. I was already dubious with the Mc making statements about the three daughters potential doing stuff to "make the harem work" which is stupid and unnecessary, and I hoped that if it came to it, I could finally override that teenage boy style mindset the Mc seemed to have (And it seems like a lot of other players feel the same). Vanessa was into the Mc, she flirted with him, and was clearly interested in
him. But if the Mc does stuff with Petra suddenly, she is so much more into Petra, someone she doesn't even know and has only seen once from a distance, that if the Mc tells her he isn't interested in a three-way thing he may lose any chance with her? But if Petra isn't involved with the Mc then he gets Vanessa, like a he's a consolation prize? This whole scene feels like it is a real 180 for her character too. She "isn't an easy woman," but she is willing to three-way fuck some random woman she doesn't even know and will even get that woman's number from a third party and text her out of the blue to set up the three-way??? How weird would that text be, "Hi, you don't know me, but I'm your realtor's neighbor, and I saw you from a distance and (borderline illegally) got your number from her, and I'd really like to fuck you and her dad at the same time..." That makes Vanessa seem really trashy to me. She flirts with the Mc but makes it clear she wants to take her time for a lot of reasons, her husband's actions and the fact that his old partner comes around to "check on her"... but then she didn't even know Petra's name and then suddenly wants to fuck her so badly that if the Mc says, "Naw, let's not mix these two relationships," it makes her upset enough to basically tell you to bounce and leave her house? Where did her unease about relationship building go? Where did her not being easy and wanting to take things slower go? Where did her fear of her husband's partner go?
And someone I saw here said that Amanda hints at being lesbian or bisexual too, is that true? The cute, super shy waitress... which would be even more out of established characters and come from nowhere. But since I closed the game until I can figure out if the bisexual stuff is actually avoidable, I haven't heard her say anything about it so idk if that's accurate.
Just saw the answer about the Vanessa thing, you can reject the triangle and still get Vanessa. So, I think I'll dive back in for now. I'll just pretend that conversation never happened if I have to, because it felt so out of place.
I hope it doesn't come up again and I really hope that Amanda isn't a lesbian or bisexual and I really, really, hope that this is an actual harem and not polyamory where the Mc just becomes a living dildo for a bunch of chicks who don't really need him which is what so many so called "harem" games have become, even MNF that this took inspiration from forced that stuff, but that was a different time, and we just took what we could get, but that doesn't cut it anymore. There are more AVNs out there than ever and the old troupes are getting played out and people know now how easy it is to code with Ren'py (especially dialog). Adding two versions for a line of dialog with an if/else statement takes a total of four lines of code.
if bisex == True:
mc "I'll need to talk the girls into loving each other, we can be a full loving family."
else:
mc "It might be hard when they find out I love them all, but they all love me and we have such strong bonds, I'm sure we can work it out."
Create the variable like you do for the blood, pregnancy, or accepting any girl into the harem. That's it, for the code.
Anyway, I ended up rambling a bit, I'll end my little essay for the time being.