VN Ren'Py 30 Days [v0.5] [AllNatural]

[Tyrranus]

hmm a surprising amount of potential here... pity we're not able to define the protagonist's personality and hes a bit of a stereotypical dimwit goody goody

 

[Jacowboy]

The whole idea was to make a point right from the start (and yeah, give myself a headache too ), a sort of declaration, or whatever name you wanna slap on it...
I don't want people making decisions that are shallow or meaningless. I hate it when a game makes me click every two minutes to "supposedly" make a choice, and then when I check the code, I realize it was all an illusion—it didn’t change anything except maybe one line of dialogue, or sometimes literally nothing...
Maybe here you won’t have to make that many choices, but every single one is there for a reason. I’ll admit that for now some of them might seem pointless, but that’s only because they don’t have immediate consequences—they’re cumulative. A bunch of them will gradually affect how MC behaves. Kind of like what BaD does, except I’m not planning to show that progress on-screen...
It’s pretty much the same idea as what happens when you have to decide whether to volunteer or not during that scene near the ruins... One of those choices can lead to MC’s "possible" death, the other won’t. But even if MC dies because of what you chose, it won’t happen right away... it’ll take a few more minutes... The changes in MC’s behavior will start to show on the second day. And it’ll all be because of those choices you made and thought didn’t matter...

Maybe someday I’ll try doing something with Steam. But not right now, and probably not for a while. Making a build for Steam is kinda tricky, and I need to make sure I have enough content. Right now, I don’t have the knowledge or the time to even try anything with Steam... maybe next year, or maybe it’ll never happen.

Ah ok... I thought there was more of a narrative purpose, but maybe I was reading too much into it

As for Steam, well obviously do whatr you want, but I'd recommend thinking about it even if later on... I don't (and won't ever) use Patreon, but I do buy the AVNs I'm interested in on steam to support them... and I'm sure other people do that as well, plus you know all the extra revenue from steam and all that... It might be worth it.

 

[Anteron]

Steam is even worse than Patreon when it comes to certain things...

 

[Tyrranus]

I do suggest the author go re-read the dialogue tho, there are some serious jumps in places that make no sense

 

[AllNatural939]

I do suggest the author go re-read the dialogue tho, there are some serious jumps in places that make no sense

Just point out one of those supposed jumps and I’ll explain what’s going on… no problem.

I just wanna point something out:

...pity we're not able to define the protagonist's personality and hes a bit of a stereotypical dimwit goody goody

That was said less than an hour after I talked about the exact same thing right here...

Yeah, it’s my job to get defensive sometimes, because false claims from people who either don’t read or don’t understand what they’re reading can hurt, since others see those comments and might think, 'oh, this game sucks'... just because of random stuff someone else said.

That’s why I’m insisting—point out just one of those issues and I’ll explain what’s going on. And if it turns out to be a mistake, I’ll fix it and apologize.

 

[Tyrranus]

Just point out one of those supposed jumps and I’ll explain what’s going on… no problem.

well for example on the path where linda joins the team, at no point do we actually tell the others what our mutant power is but almost immediately after that we're tellin people mother wants us absorbing powers.... and no one questions anything about that. Theres nothing massive just weird jumps and gaps that need ironing out

That was said less than an hour after I talked about the exact same thing right here...

thats nice but it assumes I read the thread at all before posting after my first run.

Yeah, it’s my job to get defensive sometimes, because false claims from people who either don’t read or don’t understand what they’re reading can hurt, since others see those comments and might think, 'oh, this game sucks'... just because of random stuff someone else said.

That’s why I’m insisting—point out just one of those issues and I’ll explain what’s going on. And if it turns out to be a mistake, I’ll fix it and apologize.

sadly I stand by the statement the protagonist acts like a brain dead dipshit multiple times, and while irl people do that and survive, this guy is in a literal life or death hell and by all rights will end up dead at the first conflict because he's incapable of thoughts bigger than 'boobies' more often than not. Im not saying the game is bad, again theres a lot more goin for it than I expected. But the protagonist, in both routes I played comes off ass a too good to be real, dimwit, that has no will power or self control. AKA a typical porn protag. Theres no need to point out instances of him doin this, its your story to tell. If thats the kinda protag you want thats the kinda protag youll use. I just felt that it would be better for us to be able to define him ourselves a bit more. Sure that would also add an extra mountain of complexity, and sure its totally cool if thats not how you want to go.
I also get being defensive, these forum are toxic as fuck about 99.9% of the time. Im not tellin you 'waaa rreeeeee change it to what I want' just 'this was less pleasant than Id hoped' and it in no way makes the game/story unenjoyable for me just less enjoyable.

 

[AllNatural939]

well for example on the path where linda joins the team, at no point do we actually tell the others what our mutant power is but almost immediately after that we're tellin people mother wants us absorbing powers.... and no one questions anything about that. Theres nothing massive just weird jumps and gaps that need ironing out

You're probably not gonna like the answer, 'cause we all just see what we wanna see... Did you notice the situation where that happens?
That actually happens twice. The first time is when MC tells Rachel the whole issue. She's not a regular person and doesn't really care about that part — she's more focused on what Linda’s future death means. After all, that's what MC asked her for… advice, and to stay cool.
Then it comes up again when MC is in front of everyone, talking specifically to Linda. That’s when the rest of the team finds out that Linda is going to die… So, do you want MC to become the center of attention at that moment, with everyone asking about his powers? Or do you prefer it to feel natural, with everyone just worried about Linda?

After that, Linda storms off and leaves everyone in a really bad mental state, and Megan has to step in to take control… Because of everything that happened afterward, there was never really a chance to talk about it… or maybe there was. You know this isn’t a book, and things can happen off-screen… that walk from near the bench back to the fortress could’ve been a moment to talk about all kinds of stuff…
But no, that actually didn’t happen, and it won’t happen until much later — at a point I haven’t even rendered yet.

About MC’s personality — it’s intentional, and exactly because he’s going to change over time… I’ve been saying it for months:

You're absolutely right about everything. But there's something I’d really like to clarify above all... MC can still be kinda dumb and naive, even though he'll improve over time. And he can also turn into a real bastard... That depends on the choices. There's been a variable affecting MC's personality implemented for a long time. Right now, it only tracks things internally, but if you check the code, it's there and it does make changes in certain situations—for example, if you choose Asami or keep pushing Megan when both are naked near the tree... both cases will cause negative behavioral shifts. The effects of all this will start becoming more noticeable from version 0.6 onwards... So basically, there's a dark path for MC, and it's up to you.

MC is the way he is right now out of necessity. If I made him perfect from the start, any positive change wouldn’t be noticeable... That’s why I’ve always said, most of the time you guys judge without keeping in mind that this isn’t a finished product, it’s not a movie — it’s a series with lots of episodes.

 

[Tyrranus]

You're probably not gonna like the answer, 'cause we all just see what we wanna see... Did you notice the situation where that happens?
That actually happens twice. The first time is when MC tells Rachel the whole issue. She's not a regular person and doesn't really care about that part — she's more focused on what Linda’s future death means. After all, that's what MC asked her for… advice, and to stay cool.
Then it comes up again when MC is in front of everyone, talking specifically to Linda. That’s when the rest of the team finds out that Linda is going to die… So, do you want MC to become the center of attention at that moment, with everyone asking about his powers? Or do you prefer it to feel natural, with everyone just worried about Linda?

After that, Linda storms off and leaves everyone in a really bad mental state, and Megan has to step in to take control… Because of everything that happened afterward, there was never really a chance to talk about it… or maybe there was. You know this isn’t a book, and things can happen off-screen… that walk from near the bench back to the fortress could’ve been a moment to talk about all kinds of stuff…
But no, that actually didn’t happen, and it won’t happen until much later — at a point I haven’t even rendered yet.

as I said it was one example and I realize the situation was a wonko one but it still feels like that deserves a 'waitwut' moment, even if its immediately postponed by something else like, in this instance, focusing on linda's imminent demise. Again theres nothing BAD or WRONG about the writing Im more pointing out areas I feel need a bit more attentions and polish. Also at the end of the day, as I said before, its your story. You dont have to explain yourself to anyone or listen to anyone. Tho the paying ones might be good to at least listen too lol As long as they dont end up driving the ship instead of you anyway.

 

[Toksicz]

The 2 best looking characters got killed off bro wtf...