Tyrranus
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hmm a surprising amount of potential here... pity we're not able to define the protagonist's personality and hes a bit of a stereotypical dimwit goody goody
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Ah ok... I thought there was more of a narrative purpose, but maybe I was reading too much into itThe whole idea was to make a point right from the start (and yeah, give myself a headache too), a sort of declaration, or whatever name you wanna slap on it...
I don't want people making decisions that are shallow or meaningless. I hate it when a game makes me click every two minutes to "supposedly" make a choice, and then when I check the code, I realize it was all an illusion—it didn’t change anything except maybe one line of dialogue, or sometimes literally nothing...
Maybe here you won’t have to make that many choices, but every single one is there for a reason. I’ll admit that for now some of them might seem pointless, but that’s only because they don’t have immediate consequences—they’re cumulative. A bunch of them will gradually affect how MC behaves. Kind of like what BaD does, except I’m not planning to show that progress on-screen...
It’s pretty much the same idea as what happens when you have to decide whether to volunteer or not during that scene near the ruins... One of those choices can lead to MC’s "possible" death, the other won’t. But even if MC dies because of what you chose, it won’t happen right away... it’ll take a few more minutes... The changes in MC’s behavior will start to show on the second day. And it’ll all be because of those choices you made and thought didn’t matter...
Maybe someday I’ll try doing something with Steam. But not right now, and probably not for a while. Making a build for Steam is kinda tricky, and I need to make sure I have enough content. Right now, I don’t have the knowledge or the time to even try anything with Steam... maybe next year, or maybe it’ll never happen.
As for Steam, well obviously do whatr you want, but I'd recommend thinking about it even if later on... I don't (and won't ever) use Patreon, but I do buy the AVNs I'm interested in on steam to support them... and I'm sure other people do that as well, plus you know all the extra revenue from steam and all that... It might be worth it.
Just point out one of those supposed jumps and I’ll explain what’s going on… no problem.
I just wanna point something out:
That was said less than an hour after I talked about the exact same thing right here...
Yeah, it’s my job to get defensive sometimes, because false claims from people who either don’t read or don’t understand what they’re reading can hurt, since others see those comments and might think, 'oh, this game sucks'... just because of random stuff someone else said.
That’s why I’m insisting—point out just one of those issues and I’ll explain what’s going on. And if it turns out to be a mistake, I’ll fix it and apologize.
Tyrranus
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well for example on the path where linda joins the team, at no point do we actually tell the others what our mutant power is but almost immediately after that we're tellin people mother wants us absorbing powers.... and no one questions anything about that. Theres nothing massive just weird jumps and gaps that need ironing out
thats nice but it assumes I read the thread at all before posting after my first run.
sadly I stand by the statement the protagonist acts like a brain dead dipshit multiple times, and while irl people do that and survive, this guy is in a literal life or death hell and by all rights will end up dead at the first conflict because he's incapable of thoughts bigger than 'boobies' more often than not. Im not saying the game is bad, again theres a lot more goin for it than I expected. But the protagonist, in both routes I played comes off ass a too good to be real, dimwit, that has no will power or self control. AKA a typical porn protag. Theres no need to point out instances of him doin this, its your story to tell. If thats the kinda protag you want thats the kinda protag youll use. I just felt that it would be better for us to be able to define him ourselves a bit more. Sure that would also add an extra mountain of complexity, and sure its totally cool if thats not how you want to go.
I also get being defensive, these forum are toxic as fuck about 99.9% of the time. Im not tellin you 'waaa rreeeeee change it to what I want' just 'this was less pleasant than Id hoped' and it in no way makes the game/story unenjoyable for me just less enjoyable.
You're probably not gonna like the answer, 'cause we all just see what we wanna see... Did you notice the situation where that happens?
That actually happens twice. The first time is when MC tells Rachel the whole issue. She's not a regular person and doesn't really care about that part — she's more focused on what Linda’s future death means. After all, that's what MC asked her for… advice, and to stay cool.
Then it comes up again when MC is in front of everyone, talking specifically to Linda. That’s when the rest of the team finds out that Linda is going to die… So, do you want MC to become the center of attention at that moment, with everyone asking about his powers? Or do you prefer it to feel natural, with everyone just worried about Linda?
After that, Linda storms off and leaves everyone in a really bad mental state, and Megan has to step in to take control… Because of everything that happened afterward, there was never really a chance to talk about it… or maybe there was. You know this isn’t a book, and things can happen off-screen… that walk from near the bench back to the fortress could’ve been a moment to talk about all kinds of stuff…
But no, that actually didn’t happen, and it won’t happen until much later — at a point I haven’t even rendered yet.
About MC’s personality — it’s intentional, and exactly because he’s going to change over time… I’ve been saying it for months:
MC is the way he is right now out of necessity. If I made him perfect from the start, any positive change wouldn’t be noticeable... That’s why I’ve always said, most of the time you guys judge without keeping in mind that this isn’t a finished product, it’s not a movie — it’s a series with lots of episodes.
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as I said it was one example and I realize the situation was a wonko one but it still feels like that deserves a 'waitwut' moment, even if its immediately postponed by something else like, in this instance, focusing on linda's imminent demise. Again theres nothing BAD or WRONG about the writing Im more pointing out areas I feel need a bit more attentions and polish. Also at the end of the day, as I said before, its your story. You dont have to explain yourself to anyone or listen to anyone. Tho the paying ones might be good to at least listen too lol
As long as they dont end up driving the ship instead of you anyway.
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You know what him winning looks like, you had the last update. You want necrophily and gore and the like, do take your The Boys binge watch marathon and wait for that path to get another update.
What part of: he kills them rather than play with them did you miss? Did you not see he lends his girls around? He is no Pokemon hunter. Did you not see who the protagonist was?
It is a strong possibility that, right now, you would be better off if you considered, maybe, going to find your fix for serial killer glorification some place else.
What part of: he kills them rather than play with them did you miss? Did you not see he lends his girls around? He is no Pokemon hunter. Did you not see who the protagonist was?
It is a strong possibility that, right now, you would be better off if you considered, maybe, going to find your fix for serial killer glorification some place else.
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I just started playing and I instantly disliked how the story is told, you randomly wake up in this competition, don't really know why MC signed up for it, you're never told that mutants are a thing but suddenly mutants are a thing and the hoe on your team instantly discloses that she's a mutant too for some reason, surely keeping that secret wouldn't ever be handy in a competition
I kinda hate hate this kinda storytelling where you as the reader are just thrust into the middle of things and expected to catch up
Is this really a 4 star worthy game that I should keep playing?
I kinda hate hate this kinda storytelling where you as the reader are just thrust into the middle of things and expected to catch up
Is this really a 4 star worthy game that I should keep playing?
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Forget the sex, I'm interested enough in the story even without it!
It is very rare that I'm actually engaged with the story.
AllNatural939
I hope you'll continue developing this story. Preferably, in less than 5 years (unlike most other VNs).
It is very rare that I'm actually engaged with the story.
AllNatural939
I hope you'll continue developing this story. Preferably, in less than 5 years (unlike most other VNs).
Sorry to say this, but you're reading without actually understanding. Emma (and honestly, pretty much no one) is not gonna reveal too much about herself right off the bat, let alone the fact that she's a mutant. You're surrounded by a bunch of strangers. Why the hell would I tell someone I just met a few hours ago that I'm a mutant, knowing that M.A.R.A. could seriously mess up my life if they ever find out?
Throwing someone straight into a situation from the start isn't anything new. Things get clearer as the story moves forward. Movies do this all the time... hell, movies do everything, even telling the story backwards (Memento, 2000). Just because you don't like this storytelling style doesn’t mean the story is good or bad... it just means you don’t like it.
EDIT: Oh, sorry, I misread haha. Well, still the same... Nope, you need to see more of the story. Using special abilities during the competitions isn’t allowed, and Emma knows that.
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Just got done playing this and I really like the game.
I think that the 2 different paths are interesting because they do end up with different characters on them, but i definitely favor the path of letting the two girls have their way with you. Even if one girl dies right away and we miss the second meeting.
Though it will depend on how the other path gets fleshed out, if Linda is actually dead i'll be very sad.
Either way, the writing is interesting, the characters are unique, and it plays alot like a mystery harem novel. I do hope we can rescue/recruit all the likeable characters.
I think that the 2 different paths are interesting because they do end up with different characters on them, but i definitely favor the path of letting the two girls have their way with you. Even if one girl dies right away and we miss the second meeting.
Though it will depend on how the other path gets fleshed out, if Linda is actually dead i'll be very sad.
Either way, the writing is interesting, the characters are unique, and it plays alot like a mystery harem novel. I do hope we can rescue/recruit all the likeable characters.
Thanks a lot...
Linda's dead, yeah, but... but. Several months ago, I intentionally had my Patrons help design her physical appearance, 'cause she was gonna be a key character in the story. It was a long process... picking out every part of her body, from boobs, hips, skin, eye color, down to her hair... I wasn’t gonna go through all that for nothing. That’s all I can say
About the harem thing, I know some people might not be too thrilled about how I’m handling it. Yeah, there’s a harem, but you don’t get to pick who’s in it. That’s just not what this game’s about.
Still, there’s a ton of girls you’ll get to interact with (you know what I mean), not just your teammates. And for a while, every time one girl’s out of the competition, a new one shows up. My Patrons already picked the first two. I haven’t done the math yet, but there should be around 6 or 7 new girls in total that haven’t shown up yet.
We haven’t reached that point in the story yet, but you’ll get opportunities to interact with other girls during certain competitions, and especially the day after each one... That’s when I’m gonna hit you with tons of choices.
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After reading the last few comments, I realized I had only read half of this VN. I didn't realize there was a completely other part! Not just some flavour text differences, but actually totally different scenes.
I do have to say that they are different in tone as well.
The first path (with Ronald) was 'unfriendly' and disturbing. It also explained a lot about the world.
The second path (with Linda) was much more emotional and fun.
I think the second path was much more fun to read than the first path, but I assume the paths stay together (because the same things probably happen, but from a different perspective).
AllNatural939
Have you asked you Patreons which path they prefer? I'd be interested in a poll on that.
I do have to say that they are different in tone as well.
The first path (with Ronald) was 'unfriendly' and disturbing. It also explained a lot about the world.
The second path (with Linda) was much more emotional and fun.
I think the second path was much more fun to read than the first path, but I assume the paths stay together (because the same things probably happen, but from a different perspective).
AllNatural939
Have you asked you Patreons which path they prefer? I'd be interested in a poll on that.