VN Ren'Py 60 Days Of Us [EA Build 2] [Eizenhower]

[single_guy_from_au]

I've been thinking about this for a long time, and I've already talked about it in the Dev-Note.





And I will say this once again:


- Evelyn: Initially, the game I planned was meant to be a sandbox relationship-building game. However, I realized that having relationships solely with the LIs would be too dull for me. So, I planned to introduce another type of relationship, specifically a younger sister character. which is why I added the character 'Evelyn.' This was to provide more variety in the relationships, encompassing both developing relationships with the LIs and maintaining a relationship with our sister. I have no plans whatsoever to explore an incestuous relationship between the MC and the sister. 'No incest.'


After revisiting the game's planning, there are still several aspects I haven't been able to decide:


- I'm still pondering whether to "remove" Evelyn from the story in a reasonable manner, as many people have commented on the character Evelyn regarding such issues.


- Adjusting character costumes: As I’ve mentioned in the dev-note, all the characters and costumes were drawn from my

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series universe without any modifications or alterations. The Pixiv series universe consists solely of female characters, all of characters have costumes designed with a service-oriented approach. When bringing them into 60 Days of Us, I simply added male characters without changing the female characters' costumes at all, keeping the service-oriented focus intact. I’m already aware of the feedback regarding these costumes, and I’m still considering whether to tone down the service elements or reduce the level of exposure, or to simply continue as is (personally, I lean toward keeping things as they are and continuing). This decision includes Evelyn’s costume as well.

Hi Eizenhower,

I liked your first episode (which means I care about your great game - otherwise why I would be waisting my time writing these message) and my point is "it is your game and you can change things if necessary including Evelyn's age so she could have some fun too, but with other guys (and NOT with her brother, so you game will not be banned on Patreon)".

There are some games (on this forum) with fights and guns (etc.), but I personally prefer to play professional/comercial games (on Playstation, etc.) - think like playing "Doom: Eternal" (which is a few years old and has amazing graphics/sounds/etc) vs. original "Doom" (which is like 30 years old) - check out the screenshots on the Internet to compare the quality.

Also in Apocalipse-style games everything is really simple:

• not get killed (almost every day).
• get some food/drinks.
• "relive stress" - here is an example
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  .

I am just trying to help you, so you don't make a major mistake (with Evelyn) and the game fans would not lose interest in your amazing game.

PS. Here is an example, "Royal Switch" (click on my signature) had a good start and many people were interested initially, but then the developer made several major mistakes and did some rework later, but it was too late - the game fans moved on to other games (nobody is going to wait forever) and there are now only about 30 Patreon supporters. There is a reason why many people like your first episode, so please, don't repeat other people mistakes. Like I said - I like your game and I want you to be successful.

 

[Eizenhower]

Hi Eizenhower,

I liked your first episode (which means I care about your great game - otherwise why I would be waisting my time writing these message) and my point is "it is your game and you can change things if necessary including Evelyn's age so she could have some fun too, but with other guys (and NOT with her brother, so you game will not be banned on Patreon)".

There are some games (on this forum) with fights and guns (etc.), but I personally prefer to play professional/comercial games (on Playstation, etc.) - think like playing "Doom: Eternal" (which is a few years old and has amazing graphics/sounds/etc) vs. original "Doom" (which is like 30 years old) - check out the screenshots on the Internet to compare the quality.

Also in Apocalipse-style games everything is really simple:

• not get killed (almost every day).
• get some food/drinks.
• "relive stress" - here is an example
  You must be registered to see the links
  .

I am just trying to help you, so you don't make a major mistake (with Evelyn) and the game fans would not lose interest in your amazing game.

PS. Here is an example, "Royal Switch" (click on my signature) had a good start and many people were interested initially, but then the developer made several major mistakes and did some rework later, but it was too late - the game fans moved on to other games (nobody is going to wait forever) and there are now only about 30 Patreon supporters. There is a reason why many people like your first episode, so please, don't repeat other people mistakes. Like I said - I like your game and I want you to be successful.

I get the point

Thank you for your feedback.
The issue with Evelyn is one of the reasons why the game’s development has been delayed. I have changed her script a lot, and I’ve already spent a considerable amount of time rewriting it. At this point, I can’t make any more adjustments. Taking in multiple opinions and trying to accommodate everything has made me overthink and lose sight of the story I originally wanted to tell.

That said, I want the script to turn out well. Even if it may not satisfy everyone, I aim to make it the best it can be. I’ve decided to stick to the script and theme I’ve written. I’ll make adjustments where necessary, but for anything that doesn’t need changing, I’ll adhere to my original script.

 

[Rozhok]

I have no plans whatsoever to explore an incestuous relationship between the MC and the sister. 'No incest.'

I think you gave a completely different vibe with the first release and I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.

 

[single_guy_from_au]

I get the point

Thank you for your feedback.
The issue with Evelyn is one of the reasons why the game’s development has been delayed. I have changed her script a lot, and I’ve already spent a considerable amount of time rewriting it. At this point, I can’t make any more adjustments. Taking in multiple opinions and trying to accommodate everything has made me overthink and lose sight of the story I originally wanted to tell.

That said, I want the script to turn out well. Even if it may not satisfy everyone, I aim to make it the best it can be. I’ve decided to stick to the script and theme I’ve written. I’ll make adjustments where necessary, but for anything that doesn’t need changing, I’ll adhere to my original script.

If you are unsure about Evelyn - add a short scene where MC and Evelyn get separated.

In this case, you can always bring her back in the third Episode.

Plus you will see your fans reactions to Evelyn being missing in Episode 2.

 

[single_guy_from_au]

I think you gave a completely different vibe with the first release and I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.

I personally don't care who is going to be b*anging Evelyn - considering how many games were removed from Patreon because of incest.

I think some side guys would be a better choice - maybe even scenes like that where Evelyn is 'thanking her brave warriors for keeping her safe' - https://attachments.f95zone.to/2025/01/4428965_13.png.

What guy would not want to protect her after such rewards?!

 

[Padorublad3]

So, I planned to introduce another type of relationship, specifically a younger sister character. which is why I added the character 'Evelyn.' This was to provide more variety in the relationships, encompassing both developing relationships with the LIs and maintaining a relationship with our sister. I have no plans whatsoever to explore an incestuous relationship between the MC and the sister. 'No incest.'

Imho,it was a great idea to have non sexual relationship with her,something like Joel and Ellie from tlou have,building their connection and everything.But giving her the sex scenes with other dudes,imho,would be a bad idea

 

[single_guy_from_au]

building their connection and everything

I have seen a lot of games that 'build connections, etc ... etc' - the vast majority of them are dead now. The reason is simple - the game fans want to see some actions and not to participate in the endless conversations about nothing.

If Evelyn were wearing very modest type of clothes - that would be one thing.

But look at her skirt size - what kind of girls would be wearing those skirts? The answer is simple - the girls who like guy's attention and want to offer them something. Just look who is wearing clothes like that in the real world...

I understand that Evelyn is the MC's sister, but so what?!

• She is not a human anymore and the basic instinct is no longer applicable to her?
• Maybe she wants to become a nun or something like that?
• Or maybe she wants 'save herself till she gets married'?

In an appocalipse style game - seriously?!

If there is no good s*x scenes and only killing zombies - I would rather play some shooting games on my PlayStation.

PS. If it makes you feel better you can ask the developer to make her an 'adopted' sister, who always was a little bit slutty (like every week a new boyfriend, etc).

 

[Padorublad3]

If Evelyn were wearing very modest type of clothes - that would be one thing.

But look at her skirt size - what kind of girls would be wearing those skirts? The answer is simple - the girls who like guy's attention and want to offer them something. Just look who is wearing clothes like that in the real world...

They wear these clothes because it's called fan service,and the game is clearly inspired by Highschool of the Dead,and it has nothing with the "attention" they want to have

I understand that Evelyn is the MC's sister, but so what?!

• She is not a human anymore and the basic instinct is no longer applicable to her?
• Maybe she wants to become a nun or something like that?
• Or maybe she wants 'save herself till she gets married'?

In an appocalipse style game - seriously?!

Right,let's then add the scene where somebody rapes her.Apocalypse and everything,everything could happen.You know,when the real apocalypse happens,maybe your "basic instinct" such as "sexual" is the last thing you need to care about right now?And nothing stops the dev from adding solo scenes with her.And to clarify something like "Why would the mc have sex then",because he has the stable psyche

If there is no good s*x scenes

There will be enough of good sex scenes,and if your sister doesn't take a part in them,it doesn't mean they get worse

 

[Shabrani_Goudou]

Interested in the relationship points. Curious where this could/will go and how it'll be relevant for the interactions between the characters. It could be basic "+1/-1 love/hate points" or something else entirely, way deeper in meaning. But that would also require a shitload of work I reckon. There is "good/evil" too. Maybe a neutral could deepen stuff.

Eh we'll see, I'm liking what I've seen so far, especially the "press auto for a cinematic experience" thing.

Good luck dev.

 

[single_guy_from_au]

They wear these clothes because it's called fan service,and the game is clearly inspired by Highschool of the Dead,and it has nothing with the "attention" they want to have

Right,let's then add the scene where somebody rapes her.Apocalypse and everything,everything could happen.You know,when the real apocalypse happens,maybe your "basic instinct" such as "sexual" is the last thing you need to care about right now?And nothing stops the dev from adding solo scenes with her.And to clarify something like "Why would the mc have sex then",because he has the stable psyche

There will be enough of good sex scenes,and if your sister doesn't take a part in them,it doesn't mean they get worse

Let me see if I get it right:

• MC and Evelyn are going to join some warrior team (guys and girls):
• MC is going to have sex with all the warrior girls. Plus any other girls that MC is going to meet.
• All other guys will be forbidden to have sex with their girls (or all the guys will magically become gay).
• Evelyn is not allowed to have sex with anyone, because she is MC's sister!!! So she will stay virgin forever.
• All the team continue to support MC and Evelyn and obey their orders - even if it means some of them will die protecting MC and Evelyn from zombies. In a way, they all become MC's servents (or even slaves).

Did I miss anything?

How about the other guys (who also have guns) will simply kill MC after such demands, would not you?

How would you personally feel if some guy comes and tells you and all your friends/team sh*t like that?

I hope none of us would have to see it, but during the apocalipse time - everything will become very simple:

• the team needs to survive (by fighting zombies, etc)
• the team needs to get some food and water (food stores are not working anymore)
• the team needs to "relive stress" at night (after fighting zombies during the day).

Just check other apocalipse style games - this is what people do there. Nobody is trying to 'develop their relationship', 'talk about feelings', etc, because you simply don't know if you will be alive tomorrow, so there is no need to plan for next five/ten years (like get a degree, build a career, thinking about the best school for the kids, etc).

And for your reference - I never said anything about Evelyn being r*ped (not my thing - just read my comments). She is eighteen years old and she can have sex with whoever she wants (like everybody else in the game).

I personally don't see anything wrong with turning this game into some major f*ck fest (during the apocalipse time), where everyone can get laid.

And if this scenario is not good enough for you, parhaps Eizenhower can change this game from apocalipse style to:

• MC's family got tragically killed
• his mother's very good looking female friend took him to her house
• she also has three (or more) very good looking daughters (and plenty of other female friens), who are NOT dating any guys.
• maybe there is even some kind of mystery, which MC will try to solve...

Peace.

 

[Padorublad3]

• All other guys will be forbidden to have sex with their girls (or all the guys will magically become gay).

No,they are allowed to do it,just like the first rape scene shows us,we are talking only about Evelyn.And it's fine if the girls who are not mc's lis have sex

How about the other guys will simply kill MC after such demands, would not you?

Right,if you want it be so real,then let's kill the mc during his first raid

• Evelyn is not allowed to have sex with anyone, because she is MC's sister!!! So she will stay virgin forever.

Yes,first of all,it's a fictional story,and not everything has to make sense,just like it happens with harems in other games.And giving Evelyn scene with other dudes will cause nothing,but hate towards this game,just like it happened to many other games with the similar case

I hope none of us would have to see it, but during the apocalipse time - everything will become very simple:

• the team needs to survive (by fighting zombies, etc)
• the team needs to get some food and water (food stores are not working anymore)
• the team needs to "relive stress" at night (after fighting zombies during the day).

Just check other apocalipse style games - this is what people do there and nobody is trying to 'develop their relationship', 'talk about feelings', etc, because you simply don't know if you will be alive tomorrow, so there is no need to plan for next five/ten years (like get a degree, build a career, thinking about the best school for the kids, etc).

See the reply above

And for your reference - I never said anything about Evelyn being r*ped (not my thing - just read my comments). She is eighteen years old and can have sex with whoever she wants (like everybody else in the game).

It was just an example,for the things that happen in real dystopia,since

And if this scenario is not good enough for you, parhaps @Eizenhower can change this game from apocalipse style to:

• MC's family got tragically killed
• his mother's very good looking female friend took him to her house
• she also has three (or more) very good looking daughters (and plenty of other female friens), who are NOT dating any guys.
• maybe there is even some kind of mystery, which MC will try to solve...

Peace.

Yeah,and I also didn't say the story was bad,I just added a simple point that his sister shouldn't have sex with other dudes

 

[single_guy_from_au]

No,they are allowed to do it,just like the first rape scene shows us,we are talking only about Evelyn.And it's fine if the girls who are not mc's lis have sex

Right,if you want it be so real,then let's kill the mc during his first raid

Yes,first of all,it's a fictional story,and not everything has to make sense,just like it happens with harems in other games.And giving Evelyn scene with other dudes will cause nothing,but hate towards this game,just like it happened to many other games with the similar case

See the reply above

It was just an example,for the things that happen in real dystopia,since

Yeah,and I also didn't say the story was bad,I just added a simple point that his sister shouldn't have sex with other dudes

I feel really sorry for Eizenhower, because people are pulling him into different directions:

• If there is some incest - the game will be banned from Patreon;
• If there is no Evelyn (or no sex with her) - a lot of fans will move on to other games, because it was a major selling point of the game (a cute girl in a very short skirt). I don't think a lot of people liked this game because there was a r*pe scene, or MC's friend was screeming at him after he looked at her panties, etc.

Where is the solution then?!

So, my suggestions were to re-focus this game into f*ck fest (vs abandonned tag).

Eizenhower can maybe add an option to show (or not) sex scenes with Evelyn (if some people don't like it), because I personally cannot think of anything else.

 

[Padorublad3]

• If there is some incest - the game will be banned from Patreon;

And it's actually supposed to be banned already because of the scene of rape

@Eizenhower can maybe add an option to show (or not) sex scenes with Evelyn (if some people don't like it), because I personally cannot think of anything else.

That would make more sense

it was a major selling point of the game (a cute girl in a very short skirt)

But just like I said above,majority of people need her scenes with the MC,or no one else

 

[single_guy_from_au]

But just like I said above,majority of people need her scenes with the MC,or no one else

which means we back to "banned" or "abandoned tag" choice.

I personally think that some games successfully solved this issue through f*ck fest: "The Keymaster" is one exampe - everyone has sex there.

 

[Padorublad3]

which means we back to "banned" or "abandoned tag" choice.

I personally think that some games successfully solved this issue through f*ck fest: "The Keymaster" is one exampe - everyone has sex there.

Switching to ss instead of patreon is an option too,afaik,deadmoon survival and contagion crisis did well there.Incest is also prohibited there,but nobody actually checks the game,so,we could have all the tags we wanted,and give Evelyn some incest scenes,saving all the dark scenes,such as rape

 

[single_guy_from_au]

Switching to ss instead of patreon is an option too,afaik,deadmoon survival and contagion crisis did well there.Incest is also prohibited there,but nobody actually checks the game,so,we could have all the tags we wanted,and give Evelyn some incest scenes,saving all the dark scenes,such as rape

Another option: Evelyn is not an MC's sister, but a girl from the next door and MC just helps her to get to the school every morning, etc.

In either case, let's see what the developer wants to do in Episode 2.

Otherwise, we can talk forever, but ultimately we don't have any power over this very promissing game.

 

[single_guy_from_au]

Hi Eizenhower,

It looks like you have another competitor (another game about the end of the world) - https://f95zone.to/threads/last-days-v0-1-beta-krz.256785/

So hopefully, we will get another update of your amazing game soon.

BTY: did you see my suggestion about making Evelyn MC's neighbour (vs sister)?

 

[shinelta]

Good

 

[Padorublad3]

Progress & Update plan
-Update plan

Build 2 (Prologue Phase 2 Path 2) will be updated between the 10th–15th (August 2025) For Tier 4. Tier 4 supporters will receive early access to the game 15 days in advance. Other tiers will follow as described in the supporter tier description. The public release will be 15 days after Tier 4 access begins.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

I've been thinking about this for a long time, and I've already talked about it in the Dev-Note.





And I will say this once again:


- Evelyn: Initially, the game I planned was meant to be a sandbox relationship-building game. However, I realized that having relationships solely with the LIs would be too dull for me. So, I planned to introduce another type of relationship, specifically a younger sister character. which is why I added the character 'Evelyn.' This was to provide more variety in the relationships, encompassing both developing relationships with the LIs and maintaining a relationship with our sister. I have no plans whatsoever to explore an incestuous relationship between the MC and the sister. 'No incest.'


After revisiting the game's planning, there are still several aspects I haven't been able to decide:


- I'm still pondering whether to "remove" Evelyn from the story in a reasonable manner, as many people have commented on the character Evelyn regarding such issues.


- Adjusting character costumes: As I’ve mentioned in the dev-note, all the characters and costumes were drawn from my

You must be registered to see the links

series universe without any modifications or alterations. The Pixiv series universe consists solely of female characters, all of characters have costumes designed with a service-oriented approach. When bringing them into 60 Days of Us, I simply added male characters without changing the female characters' costumes at all, keeping the service-oriented focus intact. I’m already aware of the feedback regarding these costumes, and I’m still considering whether to tone down the service elements or reduce the level of exposure, or to simply continue as is (personally, I lean toward keeping things as they are and continuing). This decision includes Evelyn’s costume as well.

No incest damn bro damn.