WuzzyFuzzy

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Ah I very much agree with you there. So many games have explorered opportunities in that realm; like what happens when the wife gets bored of the cad? Or for that matter, what happens when the bull/cad gets bored of the wife? What happens when the husband and wife have a revelation moment that this all might not be good for their relationship in the long run? What happens when a second cad appears on the scene, and there's conflict between the two males trying to out-alpha each other?

In this game anyway, I didn't see any of that exploration, the answer to all questions is "the sneering black guy fucks".
Indeed. There is virtually no one authoring these games with introspection and reflection as a plot device. Leap of Faith has it as the author lived some of the story. That's why, IMO, so few of these games have any eroticism. Eroticism is borne of the mind, the thoughts and expressions of those who understand sex is more than animalistic copulation. What are the participants thinking of themselves and each other while they're apart...at work, driving down the interstate, etc. What plans are they developing. What pitfalls do they see or don't see.

It is also a product of experience and maturity. What word to say at just the right time in the right situation. I'm guessing that's why older folks like me just can't get into the inane banter that's written in so many of these games. This one is better than most, but still exhibits a lot of superficiality.

But as the vast majority of users here are more interested in release schedule and some hot renders, the demands on authors don't even point in the direction of cerebral engagement.
 

ScrewMe

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Ah I very much agree with you there. So many games have explorered opportunities in that realm; like what happens when the wife gets bored of the cad? Or for that matter, what happens when the bull/cad gets bored of the wife? What happens when the husband and wife have a revelation moment that this all might not be good for their relationship in the long run? What happens when a second cad appears on the scene, and there's conflict between the two males trying to out-alpha each other?

In this game anyway, I didn't see any of that exploration, the answer to all questions is "the sneering black guy fucks". Futhermore, for all the much-vaunted multiple routes, all I see is slightly different reactions or levels of awareness from the husband towards the prior. Pretty much it's "the sneering black guy fucks", and the husband either A) encourages it B) is apprehensive about it C) disapproves of it D) doesn't know about it - etc.
Yup. What if, at some point, Ethan will grow a couple and would try to out-alpha the alpha but will end up turning into smug asshole himself?
What if for once there will appear someone who challenges Nat's connection to Ethan on emotional level, through being nice and not viewing her as just another fuck(looking at Carl, but it will probably end up as a twisted variation of a mentor landlady-inexperienced stepson stuff for dudes who are into that) and actually winning her over through character and only then through stuff in bed.
There are so many possibilities this game could go but so far, it ends up being around your typical magic cock story.
 

mecanico

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In this update the only scene is Nat a Ethan whatching together their video and then end of the update. It doesn`t appear the film making of Nat and Darrel. Someone could help how to get the scene with Nat and Darrel?
 
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packard1928

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I can get the scene with Darrell , Nat and Ethan making the video. I can not get it to give me where Ethan fuck Nat at the end... I just get Ethan eating out Nat. Thoughts ? What triggers do I need.
 
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kratosdeimos495

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mecanico Exactly. I can't seem to get past the scene of Ethan and Nat watching their video even though I explored a few other paths. The walkthrough is too complicated for me to trace back and get to those paths. Can someone share the save file of the path leading to Darrel fucking Nat ?
 

redkit7878

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I played cuckold route but I didn't see darrel. What is the wrong thing? Mc fucked her wife and filmed her by himself. And I agree I dont't want to see darrel anymore. At least 4-5 episode :)
 
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ozomozyan

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I can get the scene with Darrell , Nat and Ethan making the video. I can not get it to give me where Ethan fuck Nat at the end... I just get Ethan eating out Nat. Thoughts ? What triggers do I need.
Most likely bc you dont have enough love points towards ethan ?
 

jamdan

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Darrell... in my opinion, is always going to be Nat's favorite lover. Aside from his giant dick, he makes her feel desired and happy, and that's what counts, in a lover.
Part of that is because Darrell has the most scenes and progression.

It's important to have balance when you're making a multi-route game. The balance so far is pretty far in Darrell's direction. Wouldn't be a bad idea to cull the number of routes so the main LI's have a more regular update rotation.
 

r0ckh0und

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In this update the only scene is Nat a Ethan whatching together their video and then end of the update. It doesn`t appear the film making of Nat and Darrel. Someone could help how to get the scene with Nat and Darrel?
I can get the scene with Darrell , Nat and Ethan making the video. I can not get it to give me where Ethan fuck Nat at the end... I just get Ethan eating out Nat. Thoughts ? What triggers do I need.
mecanico Exactly. I can't seem to get past the scene of Ethan and Nat watching their video even though I explored a few other paths. The walkthrough is too complicated for me to trace back and get to those paths. Can someone share the save file of the path leading to Darrel fucking Nat ?
see attached save files, choose following options:

nat_reluctant_cuck1 route
  • -> make Ethan regret
nat_reluctant_cuck2 route
  • -> make Ethan regret
cuck_high_darrel route
  • -> go to sleep (leeds to the scene where Ethan jumps Nat after Darrel)
ps: don't forget to rename the save files!!!
 

Fusionzone

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You need to let darrel cum in her in the hotel before
nah you don't need that, the trigger is a 19 score with darrel. there's enough dialogue choices that raise it up to that without letting him cum inside her. it actually makes a following scene seem very out of place because you can go from ethan being in control to his wife randomly invites darrel over to let him creampie her and submit to him in front of her husband. so the trigger needs to be changed to only be an available dialogue choice if you let him cum inside her or it breaks continuity.

honestly I don't wanna say the release was rushed, but something feels lackluster about it. too much effort was put into the doggy scene and not enough into the things around it, though what was done was pretty decent. This makes me think the game is due for a route split of darrel becoming the dominant in their new relationship that involves him, and another where nat becomes the dominant of the relationship and the other men are just there to express that, as well as to tease ethan. maybe call it the hotwife vs the true beta cuck routes or something.

Me personally the most erotic part of the update was the conversation she had with ethan asking him if this was what he wanted, really making sure to confirm exactly what he was looking for and realizing since he's becoming more passive it falls on her to be proactive making sure their relationship goes in a direction that is good for him too, and distinguishing between what he's ok with vs what he specifically wants. like the sex scenes can be written off as generic porn, a dude fucking a girl is a dime a dozen occurance. the payoff is the interaction between ethan and nat so I was left unsatisfied that they spend very little actually interacting with each other and then go to sleep. I don't have any objective metric for what's an acceptable amount of content on release so no judgements there, but it did leave me a bit skeptical of what happens the following day and beyond that.

I get its rough trying to cater to a micro niche and you can't please everyone. ultimately it would be better to completely scrap vance, matt and carl, as its 2 kids and a criminal it's not really feeding the growing dynamic between ethan and nat, it would just lead to mindless sex scenes and that's not going to be memorable for people except for possibly a tiny few who want to see nat with vance. At best you add content for them as extra scenes when you feel the core of the game is finished. just my opinion on the subject.

back to the update, the actual things that happened honestly felt more as a parallel occurance to their second outing. what I mean is the idea of them deciding to either go to the hotel they went to, OR do it at home, as opposed to do it at the hotel, the camera was the only thing that really makes that less believable. the reasoning for this is besides the camera being there it's for the most part more of the same, with a little bit of progression in the story between ethan and nath at the very end.

Like I said the real money to this game is ethan and nat's relationship interactions. I'd assume that at some point she'll fuck darryl without ethan there, take video of it and then either fuck or jerk ethan off(or both) while teasing him. The appeal is in the tease and nats growing comfort in being the one in charge of their relationship, as well as making it clear that even though the dynamic is getting warped, her husband is still her priority and her primary pleasure she gets out of it is knowing he gets off on it. The line she said where she didn't know what to do with him when she realized he wanted her making the decisions kind of hinting that she's starting to understand what he wants from her, and her wanting him to fuck her hints that this is still about her wanting to use his fetish to make him feel good. if there's a darrel taking over their relationship route that ends in 1 following scene, he gets her pregnant, ethan tapes and cums in his pants or some meme, end of game/route. It kills the story because the tease is over and the relationship stops being about the lead characters and became just another fetish vid on pornhub.

The purpose of darrel in relation to the story is literally as a dildo. That's why the bbc trope works so well, its as far as you can get from married middle class white male, which is also why people now as well as before were complaining about how he has way too much dialogue. There should be a specific bottleneck route where he takes over their relationship, with a specific trigger. Outside of that the focus should be on ethan and nat, and how their dynamic plays out. Either he's in charge and she's being a slut for him like a good wife, or she's in charge and taking her control over him to a particular extreme. Either of those can be closely aligned routes where you can change dialogue to highlight who is the dominant in the marriage. It makes more sense, is easier to script, and is likely more appealing to more audiences than a couple getting a dildo to spice up their sex life, then suddenly taking lifestyle advice and behavioral cues from said dildo. Ultimately he's there to get ethan and nat off together, not to interfere with their lives, and most people would argue should be grateful for the opportunity to be nats dildo because she's nat. That's the whole crux of the cuck dynamic is it gets fueled by the exploitation of the other guy, but he consents to it because it feeds a power fantasy of fucking a woman that isnt yours and he gets to have sex with a woman he normally wouldn't have access to. Vance is actually an even better example than darrel because guys like that are unstable and only the most emotionally damaged women choose people like that, until he inevitably ends up in jail because lets face it if you lock a guy in the bathroom to try to score with his wife there's some brain damage there that's likely to lead to other criminal behavior, you're gonna get caught eventually and intelligent high class people can just smell it and avoid it. The sole reason nat even speaks to him let alone dances to him is because ethan is basically begging her to do things like that, on her own in vanilla route she will want to immediately leave the bar just by his presence alone. That's basically something you want to maintain in the text of the story on routes where nat isn't angry at ethan is most of her decisions are ultimately through the lens of "how can I please my husband?". The tldr with the fetish is the boyfriend got porn addiction and the girlfriend loves the boyfriend enough to make porn for him, because he's very close to her as opposed to the stranger is what enhances the experience, which is why that onlyfans shit got so popular where the girls are spending hours just replying to prime subscribers messages to keep them involved, so that the shit they're watching isn't just cheap pornhub scenes. Some have even set up bots to do it for them the new ai tech.

so yea that's my feedback, make sure to keep the writing focused on the married couple. The reader should be envious of ethan because of how great his wife is, rather than contempt of him for being so weak or how she writes him off. Your goal is to grow emotions in the reader, and ethan becoming a mindless beta cuck that gets exploited by nat and darrel doesn't do that. Or what do I know I'm not a psychologist. I just like seeing nat being a whore for her husband's pleasure cuz she's hot as fuck. Hope some of this helps the author and that we keep seeing steady updates.
 

xXwankerXx

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it would be nice if more were honest and said no this is a BBC game and all there is is BBC sucking all day every day, people would be fine with that.
Wdym ?? The story was mostly focused on the Darryl - Nat relationship from the get-go, and it should've been obvious to everyone who played the game and also paid attention to the story that Darryl and the other black guy from the swinging event are the dev's favorite characters. Take a hint, bois.:WeSmart:The guy even admitted himself, like it was a mystery to anyone:ROFLMAO:, a few months back that the main focus or the backbone of the story (can't recall exactly which of those two) is the cucking, so I kinda feel bad for the players who play this game for the romance path, given how pathetic Ethan is, and those who play for the Pete path.

She seems to straight up fallen in love with him.
It's not like she has anything worth regretting to lose anyway lol, but yeah, those eye-rolling orgasms and loud moans should say a lot about who she likes the most, so unless the dev does a complete 180 and comes up with the "seemingly decent black guy turns out to be an abusive dickhead who pimps out the dumb hoes who fall for him" bullshit seen in some porn games/comics, Darryl will most probably get his ending with her. The story even hinted at a possible pregnancy in the future, so bitch boi Ethan should let the big man take his place and his wife while he moves into the doghouse or somewhere more fitting for a dumb cuck like him. He's an embarrassment to the words "man" and "husband".:whistle:

I loved this game when the routes were easier to follow but now it's become a BBC fuck fest.
It was always supposed to be like this. If you bois got fooled by the other 'options', I kindly recommend you play the game from the beginning and pay attention to the script, and you'll see that the dev favors a few characters more than others. Don't believe me, just play the game again and draw your own conclusions.
 
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