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ozomozyan

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I can get the scene with Darrell , Nat and Ethan making the video. I can not get it to give me where Ethan fuck Nat at the end... I just get Ethan eating out Nat. Thoughts ? What triggers do I need.
Most likely bc you dont have enough love points towards ethan ?
 

jamdan

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Darrell... in my opinion, is always going to be Nat's favorite lover. Aside from his giant dick, he makes her feel desired and happy, and that's what counts, in a lover.
Part of that is because Darrell has the most scenes and progression.

It's important to have balance when you're making a multi-route game. The balance so far is pretty far in Darrell's direction. Wouldn't be a bad idea to cull the number of routes so the main LI's have a more regular update rotation.
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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In this update the only scene is Nat a Ethan whatching together their video and then end of the update. It doesn`t appear the film making of Nat and Darrel. Someone could help how to get the scene with Nat and Darrel?
I can get the scene with Darrell , Nat and Ethan making the video. I can not get it to give me where Ethan fuck Nat at the end... I just get Ethan eating out Nat. Thoughts ? What triggers do I need.
mecanico Exactly. I can't seem to get past the scene of Ethan and Nat watching their video even though I explored a few other paths. The walkthrough is too complicated for me to trace back and get to those paths. Can someone share the save file of the path leading to Darrel fucking Nat ?
see attached save files, choose following options:

nat_reluctant_cuck1 route
  • -> make Ethan regret
nat_reluctant_cuck2 route
  • -> make Ethan regret
cuck_high_darrel route
  • -> go to sleep (leeds to the scene where Ethan jumps Nat after Darrel)
ps: don't forget to rename the save files!!!
 

Fusionzone

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You need to let darrel cum in her in the hotel before
nah you don't need that, the trigger is a 19 score with darrel. there's enough dialogue choices that raise it up to that without letting him cum inside her. it actually makes a following scene seem very out of place because you can go from ethan being in control to his wife randomly invites darrel over to let him creampie her and submit to him in front of her husband. so the trigger needs to be changed to only be an available dialogue choice if you let him cum inside her or it breaks continuity.

honestly I don't wanna say the release was rushed, but something feels lackluster about it. too much effort was put into the doggy scene and not enough into the things around it, though what was done was pretty decent. This makes me think the game is due for a route split of darrel becoming the dominant in their new relationship that involves him, and another where nat becomes the dominant of the relationship and the other men are just there to express that, as well as to tease ethan. maybe call it the hotwife vs the true beta cuck routes or something.

Me personally the most erotic part of the update was the conversation she had with ethan asking him if this was what he wanted, really making sure to confirm exactly what he was looking for and realizing since he's becoming more passive it falls on her to be proactive making sure their relationship goes in a direction that is good for him too, and distinguishing between what he's ok with vs what he specifically wants. like the sex scenes can be written off as generic porn, a dude fucking a girl is a dime a dozen occurance. the payoff is the interaction between ethan and nat so I was left unsatisfied that they spend very little actually interacting with each other and then go to sleep. I don't have any objective metric for what's an acceptable amount of content on release so no judgements there, but it did leave me a bit skeptical of what happens the following day and beyond that.

I get its rough trying to cater to a micro niche and you can't please everyone. ultimately it would be better to completely scrap vance, matt and carl, as its 2 kids and a criminal it's not really feeding the growing dynamic between ethan and nat, it would just lead to mindless sex scenes and that's not going to be memorable for people except for possibly a tiny few who want to see nat with vance. At best you add content for them as extra scenes when you feel the core of the game is finished. just my opinion on the subject.

back to the update, the actual things that happened honestly felt more as a parallel occurance to their second outing. what I mean is the idea of them deciding to either go to the hotel they went to, OR do it at home, as opposed to do it at the hotel, the camera was the only thing that really makes that less believable. the reasoning for this is besides the camera being there it's for the most part more of the same, with a little bit of progression in the story between ethan and nath at the very end.

Like I said the real money to this game is ethan and nat's relationship interactions. I'd assume that at some point she'll fuck darryl without ethan there, take video of it and then either fuck or jerk ethan off(or both) while teasing him. The appeal is in the tease and nats growing comfort in being the one in charge of their relationship, as well as making it clear that even though the dynamic is getting warped, her husband is still her priority and her primary pleasure she gets out of it is knowing he gets off on it. The line she said where she didn't know what to do with him when she realized he wanted her making the decisions kind of hinting that she's starting to understand what he wants from her, and her wanting him to fuck her hints that this is still about her wanting to use his fetish to make him feel good. if there's a darrel taking over their relationship route that ends in 1 following scene, he gets her pregnant, ethan tapes and cums in his pants or some meme, end of game/route. It kills the story because the tease is over and the relationship stops being about the lead characters and became just another fetish vid on pornhub.

The purpose of darrel in relation to the story is literally as a dildo. That's why the bbc trope works so well, its as far as you can get from married middle class white male, which is also why people now as well as before were complaining about how he has way too much dialogue. There should be a specific bottleneck route where he takes over their relationship, with a specific trigger. Outside of that the focus should be on ethan and nat, and how their dynamic plays out. Either he's in charge and she's being a slut for him like a good wife, or she's in charge and taking her control over him to a particular extreme. Either of those can be closely aligned routes where you can change dialogue to highlight who is the dominant in the marriage. It makes more sense, is easier to script, and is likely more appealing to more audiences than a couple getting a dildo to spice up their sex life, then suddenly taking lifestyle advice and behavioral cues from said dildo. Ultimately he's there to get ethan and nat off together, not to interfere with their lives, and most people would argue should be grateful for the opportunity to be nats dildo because she's nat. That's the whole crux of the cuck dynamic is it gets fueled by the exploitation of the other guy, but he consents to it because it feeds a power fantasy of fucking a woman that isnt yours and he gets to have sex with a woman he normally wouldn't have access to. Vance is actually an even better example than darrel because guys like that are unstable and only the most emotionally damaged women choose people like that, until he inevitably ends up in jail because lets face it if you lock a guy in the bathroom to try to score with his wife there's some brain damage there that's likely to lead to other criminal behavior, you're gonna get caught eventually and intelligent high class people can just smell it and avoid it. The sole reason nat even speaks to him let alone dances to him is because ethan is basically begging her to do things like that, on her own in vanilla route she will want to immediately leave the bar just by his presence alone. That's basically something you want to maintain in the text of the story on routes where nat isn't angry at ethan is most of her decisions are ultimately through the lens of "how can I please my husband?". The tldr with the fetish is the boyfriend got porn addiction and the girlfriend loves the boyfriend enough to make porn for him, because he's very close to her as opposed to the stranger is what enhances the experience, which is why that onlyfans shit got so popular where the girls are spending hours just replying to prime subscribers messages to keep them involved, so that the shit they're watching isn't just cheap pornhub scenes. Some have even set up bots to do it for them the new ai tech.

so yea that's my feedback, make sure to keep the writing focused on the married couple. The reader should be envious of ethan because of how great his wife is, rather than contempt of him for being so weak or how she writes him off. Your goal is to grow emotions in the reader, and ethan becoming a mindless beta cuck that gets exploited by nat and darrel doesn't do that. Or what do I know I'm not a psychologist. I just like seeing nat being a whore for her husband's pleasure cuz she's hot as fuck. Hope some of this helps the author and that we keep seeing steady updates.
 

xXwankerXx

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Jul 21, 2017
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it would be nice if more were honest and said no this is a BBC game and all there is is BBC sucking all day every day, people would be fine with that.
Wdym ?? The story was mostly focused on the Darryl - Nat relationship from the get-go, and it should've been obvious to everyone who played the game and also paid attention to the story that Darryl and the other black guy from the swinging event are the dev's favorite characters. Take a hint, bois.:WeSmart:The guy even admitted himself, like it was a mystery to anyone:ROFLMAO:, a few months back that the main focus or the backbone of the story (can't recall exactly which of those two) is the cucking, so I kinda feel bad for the players who play this game for the romance path, given how pathetic Ethan is, and those who play for the Pete path.

She seems to straight up fallen in love with him.
It's not like she has anything worth regretting to lose anyway lol, but yeah, those eye-rolling orgasms and loud moans should say a lot about who she likes the most, so unless the dev does a complete 180 and comes up with the "seemingly decent black guy turns out to be an abusive dickhead who pimps out the dumb hoes who fall for him" bullshit seen in some porn games/comics, Darryl will most probably get his ending with her. The story even hinted at a possible pregnancy in the future, so bitch boi Ethan should let the big man take his place and his wife while he moves into the doghouse or somewhere more fitting for a dumb cuck like him. He's an embarrassment to the words "man" and "husband".:whistle:

I loved this game when the routes were easier to follow but now it's become a BBC fuck fest.
It was always supposed to be like this. If you bois got fooled by the other 'options', I kindly recommend you play the game from the beginning and pay attention to the script, and you'll see that the dev favors a few characters more than others. Don't believe me, just play the game again and draw your own conclusions.
 

ixcez

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Nov 26, 2018
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nah you don't need that, the trigger is a 19 score with darrel. there's enough dialogue choices that raise it up to that without letting him cum inside her. it actually makes a following scene seem very out of place because you can go from ethan being in control to his wife randomly invites darrel over to let him creampie her and submit to him in front of her husband. so the trigger needs to be changed to only be an available dialogue choice if you let him cum inside her or it breaks continuity.

honestly I don't wanna say the release was rushed, but something feels lackluster about it. too much effort was put into the doggy scene and not enough into the things around it, though what was done was pretty decent. This makes me think the game is due for a route split of darrel becoming the dominant in their new relationship that involves him, and another where nat becomes the dominant of the relationship and the other men are just there to express that, as well as to tease ethan. maybe call it the hotwife vs the true beta cuck routes or something.

Me personally the most erotic part of the update was the conversation she had with ethan asking him if this was what he wanted, really making sure to confirm exactly what he was looking for and realizing since he's becoming more passive it falls on her to be proactive making sure their relationship goes in a direction that is good for him too, and distinguishing between what he's ok with vs what he specifically wants. like the sex scenes can be written off as generic porn, a dude fucking a girl is a dime a dozen occurance. the payoff is the interaction between ethan and nat so I was left unsatisfied that they spend very little actually interacting with each other and then go to sleep. I don't have any objective metric for what's an acceptable amount of content on release so no judgements there, but it did leave me a bit skeptical of what happens the following day and beyond that.

I get its rough trying to cater to a micro niche and you can't please everyone. ultimately it would be better to completely scrap vance, matt and carl, as its 2 kids and a criminal it's not really feeding the growing dynamic between ethan and nat, it would just lead to mindless sex scenes and that's not going to be memorable for people except for possibly a tiny few who want to see nat with vance. At best you add content for them as extra scenes when you feel the core of the game is finished. just my opinion on the subject.

back to the update, the actual things that happened honestly felt more as a parallel occurance to their second outing. what I mean is the idea of them deciding to either go to the hotel they went to, OR do it at home, as opposed to do it at the hotel, the camera was the only thing that really makes that less believable. the reasoning for this is besides the camera being there it's for the most part more of the same, with a little bit of progression in the story between ethan and nath at the very end.

Like I said the real money to this game is ethan and nat's relationship interactions. I'd assume that at some point she'll fuck darryl without ethan there, take video of it and then either fuck or jerk ethan off(or both) while teasing him. The appeal is in the tease and nats growing comfort in being the one in charge of their relationship, as well as making it clear that even though the dynamic is getting warped, her husband is still her priority and her primary pleasure she gets out of it is knowing he gets off on it. The line she said where she didn't know what to do with him when she realized he wanted her making the decisions kind of hinting that she's starting to understand what he wants from her, and her wanting him to fuck her hints that this is still about her wanting to use his fetish to make him feel good. if there's a darrel taking over their relationship route that ends in 1 following scene, he gets her pregnant, ethan tapes and cums in his pants or some meme, end of game/route. It kills the story because the tease is over and the relationship stops being about the lead characters and became just another fetish vid on pornhub.

The purpose of darrel in relation to the story is literally as a dildo. That's why the bbc trope works so well, its as far as you can get from married middle class white male, which is also why people now as well as before were complaining about how he has way too much dialogue. There should be a specific bottleneck route where he takes over their relationship, with a specific trigger. Outside of that the focus should be on ethan and nat, and how their dynamic plays out. Either he's in charge and she's being a slut for him like a good wife, or she's in charge and taking her control over him to a particular extreme. Either of those can be closely aligned routes where you can change dialogue to highlight who is the dominant in the marriage. It makes more sense, is easier to script, and is likely more appealing to more audiences than a couple getting a dildo to spice up their sex life, then suddenly taking lifestyle advice and behavioral cues from said dildo. Ultimately he's there to get ethan and nat off together, not to interfere with their lives, and most people would argue should be grateful for the opportunity to be nats dildo because she's nat. That's the whole crux of the cuck dynamic is it gets fueled by the exploitation of the other guy, but he consents to it because it feeds a power fantasy of fucking a woman that isnt yours and he gets to have sex with a woman he normally wouldn't have access to. Vance is actually an even better example than darrel because guys like that are unstable and only the most emotionally damaged women choose people like that, until he inevitably ends up in jail because lets face it if you lock a guy in the bathroom to try to score with his wife there's some brain damage there that's likely to lead to other criminal behavior, you're gonna get caught eventually and intelligent high class people can just smell it and avoid it. The sole reason nat even speaks to him let alone dances to him is because ethan is basically begging her to do things like that, on her own in vanilla route she will want to immediately leave the bar just by his presence alone. That's basically something you want to maintain in the text of the story on routes where nat isn't angry at ethan is most of her decisions are ultimately through the lens of "how can I please my husband?". The tldr with the fetish is the boyfriend got porn addiction and the girlfriend loves the boyfriend enough to make porn for him, because he's very close to her as opposed to the stranger is what enhances the experience, which is why that onlyfans shit got so popular where the girls are spending hours just replying to prime subscribers messages to keep them involved, so that the shit they're watching isn't just cheap pornhub scenes. Some have even set up bots to do it for them the new ai tech.

so yea that's my feedback, make sure to keep the writing focused on the married couple. The reader should be envious of ethan because of how great his wife is, rather than contempt of him for being so weak or how she writes him off. Your goal is to grow emotions in the reader, and ethan becoming a mindless beta cuck that gets exploited by nat and darrel doesn't do that. Or what do I know I'm not a psychologist. I just like seeing nat being a whore for her husband's pleasure cuz she's hot as fuck. Hope some of this helps the author and that we keep seeing steady updates.
You pretty much nailed it with that the game focus should be on Nat + Ethan and how they react and deal with the whole NTR/cuck/swinging/whatever part or at leasts thats the part that I like about this game or it just becomes another generic NTR game. Since for me at least I haven't found another game that focuses around the married couple and whatever their depraved fetish is and how they come to term with their inner perverts. Instead most games just has it go either full blown NTR or a chance to avoid it or win the other part back. While this game is different with at least trying to have a build up and show how the married couple deals with it while still staying together.

I honestly think the focus of the game should be around the open relationship part and yes it can go both ways since it's almost always just the wife sleeping around and the husband being a cuck it would be nice to see how the wife also deals with the husband sleeping around. So personally the routes available should be cut down to something like Nat NTR or cheating/swinging and Ethan cuck/cheating/swinging in short at least the faithful route and the Ethan angry route should be cut out or the angry route should just get a bad end or have them reconcile somehow, pretty much anything that breaks up Nat + Ethan should just give a bad end or have them reconcile somehow. A lot of the partners should also be cut and only be somewhat of a bonus scene. Both Nat + Ethan should at most only have 1 or 2 main cheating partners to make it easier and smoother. At least my thought is that giving depth to a few character is much better then having a dozen shallow characters.
 
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Blurpee69

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Wait what route got expanded in this update? I have a jealous Ethan being forced into cuckdom by Nat that didn't progress at all, and then a loving Ethan and Nat route in which Ethan just jerked off editing a video of him and his wife having sex. A complete nothing burger of an update for me.
 

L0b0ts

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Wait what route got expanded in this update? I have a jealous Ethan being forced into cuckdom by Nat that didn't progress at all, and then a loving Ethan and Nat route in which Ethan just jerked off editing a video of him and his wife having sex. A complete nothing burger of an update for me.
It's not a nothing burger, the game is crossroads for what is to come, it's going to be juicy.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Since for me at least I haven't found another game that focuses around the married couple and whatever their depraved fetish is and how they come to term with their inner perverts.
we're waiting for you over at the 'another man's wife' thread ;)
 

AER201812

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The route you are looking for exists. Admittedly, landing on the correct route is quite tricky at the beginning, and that could be a valid avenue for critique. But you rated the game 2* based on false information. My main route is indeed the one where the wife cheats on the husband without his consent or knowledge (so far). But I understand why you couldn't easily find this route. It's so fucking hard to get on this route if I remember correctly. You have to do everything right to not turn it into a cuckoldry/netorase thing but still make her cheat.
me too..... but now all the routes.... i loved this game , now its getting boring....do you have a save?? i was doing peter...
 
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