Badjourasmix

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Ok, except for your personal dislike for NTR, what are you basing this on? Do you have any stats that say NTR games do worse? How many creators do you actually support?
It's all based of what I've see over the years on this forum. I dislike NTR but I will still play the game, if it is avoidable. That is not the case for most people that don't like NTR. You still have a good number of devs that are able to work on their games full time, but from what I have observed it seems like the growth ceiling for these gsmes is a lot lower. But as I said and you pointed out, I am not a fan of NTR so my opinion is a little biased.

There are games with ntr tag and vanilla content that do very well on Patreon.... I simply believe that the models are not for everyone and that's it.
I don't know man, I think a lot of people would be into the models since they are very petite and there is a huge audience for it.
 

Mr. Chatty

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It's all based of what I've see over the years on this forum. I dislike NTR but I will still play the game, if it is avoidable. That is not the case for most people that don't like NTR. You still have a good number of devs that are able to work on their games full time, but from what I have observed it seems like the growth ceiling for these gsmes is a lot lower. But as I said and you pointed out, I am not a fan of NTR so my opinion is a little biased.
I second this, while there are some devs with "enough" financial support, there aren't even a tiny few examples of devs who are crossing the more than "enough" mark, and even the ones that are in this category, they are because they have some of the vanilla players supporting them althought not many of course.

I forgot to mention this before but the problem with optional ntr games for vanilla players is that, mostly these games end up with ntr players as majority fanbase so vanilla fans like me and you often feel like 3rd wheels, so more often than not vanilla fans just leave those games and its like a paradox which keeps growing with the developement of those game.
 

PornSucks2011

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It's all based of what I've see over the years on this forum. I dislike NTR but I will still play the game, if it is avoidable. That is not the case for most people that don't like NTR. You still have a good number of devs that are able to work on their games full time, but from what I have observed it seems like the growth ceiling for these gsmes is a lot lower. But as I said and you pointed out, I am not a fan of NTR so my opinion is a little biased.
I would argue that the amount of people that support creators here is minimal, since it is a piracy forum, while the amount of whiners is insanely high. Getting enough support to go full time is hard for anyone, regardless of kinks. This games development has been really slow too, its been now 5 years i think? and only now do we start to see some more content (in the last two updates basically).

I mean Summertime Saga still has insane support, but its been a scam for the past 2 years. If this forum was the main source of income that game would have died ages ago.
 

xert13

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I second this, while there are some devs with "enough" financial support, there aren't even a tiny few examples of devs who are crossing the more than "enough" mark, and even the ones that are in this category, they are because they have some of the vanilla players supporting them althought not many of course.

I forgot to mention this before but the problem with optional ntr games for vanilla players is that, mostly these games end up with ntr players as majority fanbase so vanilla fans like me and you often feel like 3rd wheels, so more often than not vanilla fans just leave those games and its like a paradox which keeps growing with the developement of those game.
You seem to imply that NTR lovers don’t support Devs that include NTR. Not true. Perhaps, you are unaware since NTR is not your preference, but in my experience the NTR fan community is very supportive. I support several Devs that focus on NTR or have NTR content. I note many of these same supporters. I use F95 to review and filter games. If I find a game I really like I will support them and usually download updates directly from the creator. I imagine many others do so as well. Regardless, no one is going to get rich on these games.

I honestly don’t get the running battle about NTR on these forums. Almost always within the first 10 posts about a new game someone asks if NTR is avoidable. It’s as if their whole day is ruined if they run across any scene that hints of NTR. There has been plenty of fetishes that I do not like that pop up in games. You skip the scene and move on. I think some internalize the MC as themselves. Thus, if subject to NTR, they take it personally. To each their own, but I view it like a movie. I may control the MC’s choices, but the MC is a character, not me. I digress, but find the whole psychological aspect of it fascinating.
 

PornSucks2011

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You seem to imply that NTR lovers don’t support Devs that include NTR. Not true. Perhaps, you are unaware since NTR is not your preference, but in my experience the NTR fan community is very supportive. I support several Devs that focus on NTR or have NTR content. I note many of these same supporters. I use F95 to review and filter games. If I find a game I really like I will support them and usually download updates directly from the creator. I imagine many others do so as well. Regardless, no one is going to get rich on these games.

I honestly don’t get the running battle about NTR on these forums. Almost always within the first 10 posts about a new game someone asks if NTR is avoidable. It’s as if their whole day is ruined if they run across any scene that hints of NTR. There has been plenty of fetishes that I do not like that pop up in games. You skip the scene and move on. I think some internalize the MC as themselves. Thus, if subject to NTR, they take it personally. To each their own, but I view it like a movie. I may control the MC’s choices, but the MC is a character, not me. I digress, but find the whole psychological aspect of it fascinating.
I'm not even a fan of NTR, i just feel like games that have multiple male sexual partners offer more variety. I don't care if its NTR, swinging, sharing whatever. I guess people self insert and then relive their trauma of having their father take their mother all over again...
But seriously, i find it funny how incest is fine, but another man!? Thats where we draw the line.
 

jkj54

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Any .9 patchnotes?

Just finished the night fight part the aunt is sleeping on the couch is there anything after this?
 

K.T.L.

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But seriously, i find it funny how incest is fine, but another man!? Thats where we draw the line.
We all like different things. I just stay off the NTR route but I'm not complaining that it's there, makes no difference to me apart from knowing that there are a few scenes I won't see. The alternative would be missing out on the whole game just because of a tag which would be a shame because it does have a lot of things that I really like (including Kenzie :love:)...
 

llDante

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is multi mod going to b updated
doesn't seem like it, the link was removed from this thread for some reason and shaddy posted there that he will abandon the mod, the thread for the mod is already with the abandoned tag, so unless somebody else pick it up, there won't be an update it seems.
 
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I'd be interested to see the actual breakdown of ntr fan to non ntr fan. To be transparent, forced ntr routes ruin a game for me.

What I am interested in is the actual fan breakdown.
If the ntr and non-ntr fans are equal, they need equal updates, but if say, 10% of the fanbase are NTR guys and every update has 2 ntr scenes and 3 non-ntr, that's an unequal distribution. There's also the possibility the ntr guys are being underserved if they make up 40-50% and only get 1 or 2 scenes per update.

I suppose it also has to be said the people who like NTR also like non ntr 99% of the time, but the people who don't like NTR DESPISE any ntr. So if you consider that then every 'normal' scene works for both NTR people and non ntr people and every NTR scene only works for NTR people (generally.)

I am so glad I am not a dev and don't have to actually use quantum cuckanics to plan my updates, but it's a neat exercise.
 
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TommyTuba

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We all like different things. I just stay off the NTR route but I'm not complaining that it's there, makes no difference to me apart from knowing that there are a few scenes I won't see. The alternative would be missing out on the whole game just because of a tag which would be a shame because it does have a lot of things that I really like (including Kenzie :love:)...
When are we going to see Lauren and Kenzie “studying”? :D
 

goovraedt

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Hello everybody !

Does anyone have a save to share in the ntr path with Matt fucking Jacky ? I only have the Joey path
 
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