Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 v2 Alpha] [WillTylor]

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xapican

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strenif said:
While I appreciate the sentiment, I don't think death threats are an overly wise course of action.
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No not death just hurt a bit,....wasn't serious about it anywayy, wish you the best of luck with that, only thing I can think of is the sleepsex scenes with Jacky and Lauren what caused their attention.
 
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WillTylor said:
So, we're permanently banned from Patreon :(
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I knew it would happen!! I dropped comments here months ago that I thought that Patreon would go after you. I started reading the tea leaves in this thread and I had an uneasy feeling at how some of the comments were swinging. It's all good though. At least with SubscribeStar, you have a little more creative freedom. My subscription will follow you.
 
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firsttry51 said:
context?
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There were some gripes about the whole NTR/non-NTR thing (as usual in most of these threads). It'd gotten to the point where Will had to explain the game several times to cool things down. Some commenters wouldn't let it go. Then it went to a point of trying to bash the game or the devs. I've learned that, when people resort to those types of actions, they'll resort to extremism because they can't get their way. When That happens, they go to measures like going to Patreon modders to bitch about violation of EULA and anything Else they can. By their rules, Patreon has to investigate the complaint(s).
I know for a Fact that another game that I followed and who had a thread in the forum, one particular nutcase even outright Told the dev that he was going to complain to Patreon to get his game shut down. I guess that he did because the dev's Patreon was briefly suspended but the dev decided it wasn't worth the heartache and abandoned his game. It hurt a lot of people because of a Lunatic. That's cyberbullying at it's best. My overriding issue with that is that the bullies can stay anonymous and the devs can't confront then in an open forum with a Patreon moderator as an arbiter. That's like throwing a brick at someone then hiding in the crowd with your hands behind your back playing innocent.
It's bad enough that you have the "Moral Majority" out there putting pressure on banks to not allow customers to use their credit cards to purchase some adult content (some real life content Should have restrictions on it) but pixellated content is taking it a wee bit too far. Case in point: there's a LOT of gripes about loli, shota, and bestiality mainly in these forums, Yet you have comics and some games with graphic and gory violence, mainly to women, and No One utters a damned word. I've viewed comics out there that makes you wonder if the creators or the folks that commission them, have serious social issues and mental problems, all under the guise of "artistic freedom". Really? There's bdsm comics out there where females are kidnapped and brutally tortured, maimed, disfigured, dismembered and killed But Again, Nobody bitches about that. It just makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with the human race to cry and bitch about petty stuff when more serious crap is out there to address. And yeah, this is a little off-topic but this had to be addressed.
 
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doccop63 said:
There were some gripes about the whole NTR/non-NTR thing (as usual in most of these threads). It'd gotten to the point where Will had to explain the game several times to cool things down. Some commenters wouldn't let it go. Then it went to a point of trying to bash the game or the devs. I've learned that, when people resort to those types of actions, they'll resort to extremism because they can't get their way. When That happens, they go to measures like going to Patreon modders to bitch about violation of EULA and anything Else they can. By their rules, Patreon has to investigate the complaint(s).
I know for a Fact that another game that I followed and who had a thread in the forum, one particular nutcase even outright Told the dev that he was going to complain to Patreon to get his game shut down. I guess that he did because the dev's Patreon was briefly suspended but the dev decided it wasn't worth the heartache and abandoned his game. It hurt a lot of people because of a Lunatic. That's cyberbullying at it's best. My overriding issue with that is that the bullies can stay anonymous and the devs can't confront then in an open forum with a Patreon moderator as an arbiter. That's like throwing a brick at someone then hiding in the crowd with your hands behind your back playing innocent.
It's bad enough that you have the "Moral Majority" out there putting pressure on banks to not allow customers to use their credit cards to purchase some adult content (some real life content Should have restrictions on it) but pixellated content is taking it a wee bit too far. Case in point: there's a LOT of gripes about loli, shota, and bestiality mainly in these forums, Yet you have comics and some games with graphic and gory violence, mainly to women, and No One utters a damned word. I've viewed comics out there that makes you wonder if the creators or the folks that commission them, have serious social issues and mental problems, all under the guise of "artistic freedom". Really? There's bdsm comics out there where females are kidnapped and brutally tortured, maimed, disfigured, dismembered and killed But Again, Nobody bitches about that. It just makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with the human race to cry and bitch about petty stuff when more serious crap is out there to address. And yeah, this is a little off-topic but this had to be addressed.
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thank you for the context.
par for the course on f95 then unfortunately,
Some individuals develop borderline-pathological parasocial relationships with these characters, which leads to a lot of mental distress and troubled behavior,
users trying to influence the dev through brigading (often passive aggressive) is one of the most abhorrent behaviors i see in this forums.
And i disagree with your whataboutism over violence in fiction, mature healthy minded individuals are able to distinguish fiction from reality(even on a unconscious level) and any type of censorship is a slippery slope that should be avoided.
 
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firsttry51 said:
thank you for the context.
par for the course on f95 then unfortunately,
Some individuals develop borderline-pathological parasocial relationships with these characters, which leads to a lot of mental distress and troubled behavior,
users trying to influence the dev through brigading (often passive aggressive) is one of the most abhorrent behaviors i see in this forums.
And i disagree with your whataboutism over violence in fiction, mature healthy minded individuals are able to distinguish fiction from reality(even on a unconscious level) and any type of censorship is a slippery slope that should be avoided.
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I can agree with your last statement but, unfortunately as we see with Will and others, it's not being avoided. If anything, it's getting worse. It's becoming something akin to Farenheit 459. Also, I'm not calling for a ban on the other things that I mentioned. I was merely pointing out how people can be outraged about pixellated NTR (with most of the complainers not understanding what it truly means), loli, or bestiality but seem to be ok with the more extreme "art" forms where there's been no complaints (at least as far as I've seen).
 
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