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Master of Puppets

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Dead Horse time again .... Yona I liked originally. I'm a girl of simple tastes, I like women with muscle. She was a woman with muscle. Sadly she also shat out her personality at some point and now she's, as Cliff Ricard once sang, a living doll. Sadly this puts her at the bottom of the pile because as much as don't like how Lyriel talks at least her sex scenes didn't creep me out.
She does sorely need more development. I understand Zanith wanting to get all the girls introduced because once they are all here it makes group events so much easier to develop. But now they are all here, she definitely needs a couple of updates. I'm pretty sure she will never be dominant like Naomi though.
 

Avaron1974

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She does sorely need more development. I understand Zanith wanting to get all the girls introduced because once they are all here it makes group events so much easier to develop. But now they are all here, she definitely needs a couple of updates. I'm pretty sure she will never be dominant like Naomi though.
I don't mind her being submissive as long as she's active.

It was her just laying there staring at him, it was creepy. It was like fucking a talking (barely) sex doll, just nothing there at all. It really wasn't enjoyable.

I don't need much from her just a bit of personality.
 

Knight_of_the_lance

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Yona needs to develope some more before the making of any groop event or we will be stuck with her depressed personality in many group event and I want her to be at least a bit more active in the events than simply being present in the back ground. If a friend acted like her IRL I would be conserned about their mental health.
 

ssj782

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Not gonna lie. I didn't care much for Blaire at the beginning, but watching her lose her shit because she can't figure out or alter the house in any way is entertaining as hell.
 
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Cartageno

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It's funny when devs don't condone sharing patreon links when their entire game is built on HoneySelect posers.
It's funny how musicians say they compose stuff when their entire music is built on a Bösendorfer piano.

Yes, I know that this is a somewhat off comparison, but HS is just a tool. It doesn't write you a story, it doesn't create characters, it doesn't write a program.
 

Cartageno

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Musicians pay for their musical instruments. But... It's legal to use HoneySelect for that use? To make another game and get money for it? Does the devs have license for that use? That´s the question.
The legality of using Honey Select for such games is murky and it is neither clearly legal to do so nor clearly illegal.

Actually, it does .... that's kinda one of it's main reasons for being.

It creates characters.
Ah, I may not have made that point clearly enough. I meant "characters" as in backstory of the people, the way they act and so forth, not so much the looks part.

My point being that these games aren't just "Honey Select", that's only a part of it. Just staging people in HS doesn't make a game.
 

retardo

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It's funny how musicians say they compose stuff when their entire music is built on a Bösendorfer piano.

Yes, I know that this is a somewhat off comparison, but HS is just a tool. It doesn't write you a story, it doesn't create characters, it doesn't write a program.
100% Illusion Posers are not difficult to use and I prefer them heavily to the 3DCG you usually find, but please don't act like porn plot and Ren'py VNs are massive feats of game development, people play the game because the characters dont look like shit.
 

Cartageno

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100% Illusion Posers are not difficult to use and I prefer them heavily to the 3DCG you usually find, but please don't act like porn plot and Ren'py VNs are massive feats of game development, people play the game because the characters dont look like shit.
Speak for yourself. People have different reasons to play some games and not others. I have dropped many a game with good looking graphics because the plot or the gameplay was shit. Even only because of general writing suckiness.

And what constitutes "massive feats" is debatable anyway. If it were only for the graphics, I would just play Honey Select itself. I could recreate my favorite character and have Rae as a fuckdoll without any of her talk and character - goddamn boring.
 

whichone

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My point being that these games aren't just "Honey Select", that's only a part of it. Just staging people in HS doesn't make a game.
I think you're absolutely correct.
A character being written with depth and actually having some "character" is much more important to the story, than how a character appears.
Most people (who are not shallow) fall in love with the person underneath, rather than their surface appearance.

Love at first sight doesn't exist.
Lust at first sight does.
 
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ratttta

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It's funny how musicians say they compose stuff when their entire music is built on a Bösendorfer piano.

Yes, I know that this is a somewhat off comparison, but HS is just a tool. It doesn't write you a story, it doesn't create characters, it doesn't write a program.
no, it´s actually a really good comparison. You can always create new stuff with something that already exist. games use existing engines, music uses existing patterns and instruments and all that. if anything, it´s what you do with those tools that makes the difference. HS is usually a bland masturbation box, yet people can create stories with it.

HS engine or not, creating this is damn hard.
 

ratttta

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well, I decided to watch tv with rae because i love her and there was a lovely scene where she slept on my lap.
1. adoarble
2. was that the new scene? because I know there was a new mini scene but I didnt know how to find it..
 
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