Construct

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Personally I wish he'd flesh out each character more before making them a vital part in someone else's story arc.
I might misremember that, but isn‘t it on the player to balance which characters he spends time with? As in, you can finish the current story line for one character while having minimal interactions with another. Or are there locks that you need to unlock a certain story scene with another character to continue with the first one? I haven‘t started a new game in a long time so, again, I might misremember.
 

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I might misremember that, but isn‘t it on the player to balance which characters he spends time with? As in, you can finish the current story line for one character while having minimal interactions with another. Or are there locks that you need to unlock a certain story scene with another character to continue with the first one? I haven‘t started a new game in a long time so, again, I might misremember.
That's a big part of it, I think.

Basically I think that when it comes to the pace of moving the plot along we should wait until we've met every present character and had time for their interpersonal relationships to become clear and settle for lack of a better term before introducing new ones or advancing the main plot.

So I guess what I am saying is we need more mandatory filler.

But that's just my personal view.
 
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Construct

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So I guess what I am saying is we need more mandatory filler.
I mean, I‘m always a fan of having more background story. Especially in this game since the story is delivered in a light fashion. It doesn‘t feel too text heavy but it still gives a lot of insight into the characters and doesn‘t make me feel drained after reading through everything. Instead I feel satisfied that I learned something new about them and it leaves me wanting for more.
 

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I mean, I‘m always a fan of having more background story. Especially in this game since the story is delivered in a light fashion. It doesn‘t feel too text heavy but it still gives a lot of insight into the characters and doesn‘t make me feel drained after reading through everything. Instead I feel satisfied that I learned something new about them and it leaves me wanting for more.
My point exactly.
 

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Speak for your self. Plenty of people here support these games and just use this forum to discuss them because of the community.

And that's before we get into the fact that the dev puts out a free public version which is the one you can download here. So anyone downloading from here is in fact NOT pirating the game. They are instead using a legally available demo put out by the developer.

And the entire purpose of practices as a free public version are to gather support, user input and attract future customers. So if you think that the developer should ignore this community because we are in your words "all pirates" you are dead wrong. What we are is present customers and potential future customers partaking in a free sample.
I know about it already but considering nearly all of the game's update comes before its public updates makes this site pirate site in a sense. I can give lots of examples to that but most recent one is the Sorcerer game. Its public update came in May 7 but it came to F95 about April 30. That week is enough to make us pirate. (By the way, if there are a forum rule about publishing just the materials games dev already allowed or at least had been informed, than I am sorry but as far as I know there isnt )

Also I am not saying dev should ignore this community, even a child could see the benefits of this forum but of course they could ignore as well. I am just saying F95zone is not a necessity for devs. Maybe they cant avoid complaints in patreon but they dont have to listen about "Why this character dont have this scene, why update didnt come already, dev is milking ..." etc here to.
 
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QQP_Purple

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I know about it already but considering nearly all of the game's update comes before its public updates makes this site pirate site in a sense. I can give lots of examples to that but most recent one is the Sorcerer game. Its public update come in May 7 but it came to F95 about April 30. That week is enough to make us pirate. (By the way, if there are a forum rule about publishing just the materials games dev already allowed or at least had been informed, than I am sorry but as far as I know there isnt )
I am not sure about rules but I am yet to see a download that wasn't the publicly available version of a game. At least on the games I follow here.

Also I am not saying dev should ignore this community, even a child could see the benefits of this forum but of course they could ignore as well. I am just saying F95zone is not a necessity for devs. Maybe they cant avoid complaints in patreon but they dont have to listen about "Why this character dont have this scene, why update didnt come already, dev is milking ..." etc here to.
As said, I don't agree with what he said or how he said it. But you just came off as frankly dismissive and rude in reply. And I've heard that "you can ignore online communities" argument far too many times before. Most commonly from devs that actually do milk their audience and their defenders.

I won't give any names to protect the guilty. But I must say it's getting annoying. Especially when it happens in the forum of a game where this clearly is NOT the case. In no small part because its a huge red flag when you see these things.
 

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I am not sure about rules but I am yet to see a download that wasn't the publicly available version of a game. At least on the games I follow here.
Being A DIK by DoctorPinkCake is an example of a game that doesn‘t have a free public release. The download here on F95 is provided by patrons that payed for the link.

On that note, the same developer has abandoned these forums after finishing his first game (which caused quite the uproar in the community) and is still doing very well for himself through patreon and steam.

Just to provide some additional information. (y)
 

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Being A DIK by DoctorPinkCake is an example of a game that doesn‘t have a free public release. The download here on F95 is provided by patrons that payed for the link.

On that note, the same developer has abandoned these forums after finishing his first game (which caused quite the uproar in the community) and is still doing very well for himself through patreon and steam.

Just to provide some additional information. (y)
I see. That is indeed news to me. I'll make sure to double check my downloads from now on.
 

Master of Puppets

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Am a bit sad that the scenes with the elf do not reflect if we were turning her into a slave instead of a companion....
She was never going to be turned into a slave. She has a fetish for that kind of thing which was reflected in her dreams, and I expect we will get some less vanilla scenes with her later on, but come on dude; she wanted us to be gentle for her first time.
 
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Is it just me being clueless and missing ... well.... clues? There doesn't seem to be any hint of "what to do next" if the book in the upper right of the main screen has nothing listed. I'm using the Scene Guide that's here as a reference when I get stuck, and it's several game versions out of date, but a number of things on it are events I never saw, however I'm well past the point where they should have shown up. (e.g. Caitlin's "boobjob in her room").

It seems that triggers for events are all over the place, with no logical reason why you have to talk to Girl X at Time Y in Room Z to get something new, and often it's triggered by a menu choice ("Talk", "Hang Out", etc) that at any other time has no new content/text in it. It's getting grindy to "go talk to everyone at every time-slot of every day in the week", but it seems that's the only way to get things to progress. Or am I missing something obvious?

Don't get me wrong, I love this game so far, but if ever a game needed one of Lain's brilliant sandbox-game walkthroughs, this one seems to be a candidate.
 

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Is it just me being clueless and missing ... well.... clues? There doesn't seem to be any hint of "what to do next" if the book in the upper right of the main screen has nothing listed. I'm using the Scene Guide that's here as a reference when I get stuck, and it's several game versions out of date, but a number of things on it are events I never saw, however I'm well past the point where they should have shown up. (e.g. Caitlin's "boobjob in her room").

It seems that triggers for events are all over the place, with no logical reason why you have to talk to Girl X at Time Y in Room Z to get something new, and often it's triggered by a menu choice ("Talk", "Hang Out", etc) that at any other time has no new content/text in it. It's getting grindy to "go talk to everyone at every time-slot of every day in the week", but it seems that's the only way to get things to progress. Or am I missing something obvious?

Don't get me wrong, I love this game so far, but if ever a game needed one of Lain's brilliant sandbox-game walkthroughs, this one seems to be a candidate.
Have you tried the heart icon that tracks all the individual girls' arcs rather than the main plot?
 

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Is it just me being clueless and missing ... well.... clues? There doesn't seem to be any hint of "what to do next" if the book in the upper right of the main screen has nothing listed. I'm using the Scene Guide that's here as a reference when I get stuck, and it's several game versions out of date, but a number of things on it are events I never saw, however I'm well past the point where they should have shown up. (e.g. Caitlin's "boobjob in her room").

It seems that triggers for events are all over the place, with no logical reason why you have to talk to Girl X at Time Y in Room Z to get something new, and often it's triggered by a menu choice ("Talk", "Hang Out", etc) that at any other time has no new content/text in it. It's getting grindy to "go talk to everyone at every time-slot of every day in the week", but it seems that's the only way to get things to progress. Or am I missing something obvious?

Don't get me wrong, I love this game so far, but if ever a game needed one of Lain's brilliant sandbox-game walkthroughs, this one seems to be a candidate.
You have the mobile phone thing that you have to constantly use to learn the next step. That really is the one area where this game needs a lot of improvement. He needs to add some more intuitive in game way of getting the hint on what to do next.
 

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Yeah, I'mma wait for Zanith, as much as I wanna play it now-now-now! Would be mighty hypocritical of me not to, after saying good-will goes both ways (in reference to local pirating etiquette).
 

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Well, don't I feel stupid now. >.<
Yeah, heart icon, I flat missed that it had all those clues in it. Never mind me, lol.
Considering you were completely open in your post to the possibility you were missing something and it wasn't automatically the game's fault, I'd say you came out pretty well. If only more people took that approach.
 

whichone

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I am not sure about rules but I am yet to see a download that wasn't the publicly available version of a game. At least on the games I follow here.
My whole watched list is full of titles which get released here earlier than public release. A number of the games do not have their devs as a member here & a number do not even have free public releases.
A large portion of the content available here, is pirated. This very much is a pirate site.
The fact that a number of devs do choose to have accounts here & engage with their fans, doesn't make it something which is generically applied.
As said, I don't agree with what he said or how he said it. But you just came off as frankly dismissive and rude in reply. And I've
The reason he became dismissive in his reply, is because the complaint had no grounds for validity, so was not a genuine one.
It was merely an example, found in just about every thread, of entitled behaviour.
I didn't get the girl I want (despite her having the 2nd most content already!), so the game sucks, dev is milking, etc.
Blah, blah, waah.
There is zero evidence to support any accusation that the dev is milking. Quite the opposite, in fact.
People should not be accepting of these entitled, invalid complaints that are contrary to facts.
They should be dismissed as the nonsense that they are. It's the appropriate response. (y)
 
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