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Probably an issue with which side of the pond you are on but when I said "short domestic hop" I didn't mean NY-Chicago but Paris-Lyon, London-Manchester, Hamburg-Berlin, where you do not reach full travel height.
And since we're both picking nits: yes, the extra fuel for the ascent of a longer flight does not really matter but it is there and the statement as such stays correct
But as I said that certainly is not what was meant. MC isn't a flight engineer and him getting facts and/or terms wrong should not be that surprising.I mean in a way I know how you feel, I had it in a different game myself and decided to do a fake outrage post over there. These things may happen in movies too, and when you see it you can't unsee it. And while it doesn't really matter for the story as a whole there is a certain amount of disappointment when a dev starts getting technical and then getting it wrong.
That being said, by applying Occam's razor I would still argue that it is more likely that this is a mistake by the dev and/or the MC instead of a subtle hint of the state of Earth technology to be used to assess later story elements by.
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Probably, but I can hope. I simply sat back and went. "Hmm, the determining factor is ascent fuel. What mode of transport could he be describing since the dev was deliberately vague by skipping everything but that final line. Obviously, air+. Balloons, helicopters, and commercial planes all fail to fit the basics. Sub-orbital hops fit. Orbital starts to fail again and interplanetary fails because the fuel (for us) becomes highly non-linear and "we" don't go anywhere, we send sensor probes."Probably an issue with which side of the pond you are on but when I said "short domestic hop" I didn't mean NY-Chicago but Paris-Lyon, London-Manchester, Hamburg-Berlin, where you do not reach full travel height.
And since we're both picking nits: yes, the extra fuel for the ascent of a longer flight does not really matter but it is there and the statement as such stays correct
I mean in a way I know how you feel, I had it in a different game myself and decided to do a fake outrage post over there. These things may happen in movies too, and when you see it you can't unsee it. And while it doesn't really matter for the story as a whole there is a certain amount of disappointment when a dev starts getting technical and then getting it wrong.
That being said, by applying Occam's razor I would still argue that it is more likely that this is a mistake by the dev and/or the MC instead of a subtle hint of the state of Earth technology to be used to assess later story elements by.
Sub-orbital hops gets talked about every ~20 years or so when the new generation discovers them and thinks they're cool because well, they're a cool thought exercise.
Do I think it'll ever matter? No.
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Isn't re-entry a form of descent, not ascent?
We travel down to a planet's surface from space, not up.
Regardless, MC is not an astronaut. Perhaps he just used layman's terms to describe something complex to someone who knows less than he does.
Cait has probably never even seen an aeroplane, never mind understand how space travel works (which I also doubt MC understands the intricacies of).
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Descent typically takes almost no fuel. The fuel is spent going up.
Cait almost certainly hasn't seen anything other than drawings of flying sail ships.
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Sub-orbital re-entry pretty much assumes going up because it isn't a stable position to hold.
Venera 7 was launched by a Molniya 8K78M with thrusts of 220,000 lbs x 120 seconds, 220,000 lbs x 320 seconds, 65,000 lbs x 330 seconds, and 14,000 lbs x 340 seconds.
Voyager 2 was launched with a Titan-Centaur. This rocket has thrusts of 500,000x150 seconds, 100,000 x 200 seconds, and 15,000 lbs x 470 seconds, and 15,000 lbs x 42 seconds.
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*eye roll* The type of fuel isn't anywhere near as important as thrust-seconds, but if you really want to know, all four stages used LOX/Kerosene totaling ~150 T of propellant.
Downloading the Win compressed version from any source stops at about 140mb for some reason... I've never seen anything like it, is the file corrupted? (Also, downloaded another game from a shared source to check, not my disk or anything that's full)
I did not expect to find a discussion about rocket science here of all places.
Anyway since I had to restart the game because of loosing my saves I had the opportunity to revisit many parts of the game I did not remember as well before, so I just wanted to share my opinions about some things,
the game in general is really good, I cannot call it perfect, because nothing can really be, but it is definitely well made, it has a compelling narrative and relatively likeable characters, they have personality and are mostly coherent to those, they have motivations and goals and fit thogheter well, now as for some more detailed descriptions I should probably put them in a spoiler
Anyway since I had to restart the game because of loosing my saves I had the opportunity to revisit many parts of the game I did not remember as well before, so I just wanted to share my opinions about some things,
the game in general is really good, I cannot call it perfect, because nothing can really be, but it is definitely well made, it has a compelling narrative and relatively likeable characters, they have personality and are mostly coherent to those, they have motivations and goals and fit thogheter well, now as for some more detailed descriptions I should probably put them in a spoiler
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Not? But where else than a game about one male and several females trapped in a pretend house within a magical web could we discuss these things?
you may have inadvertently just came up with an idea for a decent sci-fi movieNot? But where else than a game about one male and several females trapped in a pretend house within a magical web could we discuss these things?
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I ran into a problem after editing the save files on the mobile version of the game,i can't pick the yes option on the "this save was created on a different device" prompt
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- She was never a whore, so there was no transformation. In her first appearance she was a clearly powerful woman having fun with a bunch of dumb himbos.
- Why would she think her "lifestyle" had anything to do with Lyriel's disappearance after she was done with interrogating the three dipshits and finding out that they had nothing to do with it?
- She doesn't know that the MC saved her from death, when he met her he was an absolute moron and didn't tell her, refused to give her a straight answer on anything. All she knows is that this mysterious magician kidnapped Lyriel and is refusing to explain himself. This is the problem that I have with her events, that the normally smart and levelheaded MC turns into a total macho moron for no apparent reason.
- You think that it's a problem having a strong female character in a game with Rae and Naomi? Riiiiight...
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Attacking the person as your counter argument is not cool at all, and it doesn't make your point any stronger, on the contrary. Finally, it just makes you look like a dumbass.