Ren'Py A House in the Rift [v0.7.19r1] [Zanith]

[Karnewarrior]

Also the dev has this weird hate-boner/mary sue bipolar thing going with Rae where he can't seem to decide if she should be a snake-in-the-grass bitch or your soulmate.

Which is another reason I'm starting to think the game is ready to come into port, the dev seems to be losing the plot a little bit and we're puttering in circles without going anywhere.

 

[Pixillin']

Also the dev has this weird hate-boner/mary sue bipolar thing going with Rae where he can't seem to decide if she should be a snake-in-the-grass bitch or your soulmate.

Which is another reason I'm starting to think the game is ready to come into port, the dev seems to be losing the plot a little bit and we're puttering in circles without going anywhere.

I haven't played the last couple of updates, but my impression of Rae (who is one of my all time favorite Li) is that she was a snake-in-the-grass bitch (aka cloak and dagger political operative) who is also the MCs soulmate and is currently caught in a tug-o-war between duty to her people, and her mentor and love for the MC, combined with a desire to leave it all behind and live a normal life. I agree that we should be nearing the end, but it also feels like there is a lot of story to play out for most of the other women - and then the main story, whatever that is going to be.

 

[fdefiii]

Also the dev has this weird hate-boner/mary sue bipolar thing going with Rae where he can't seem to decide if she should be a snake-in-the-grass bitch or your soulmate.

Which is another reason I'm starting to think the game is ready to come into port, the dev seems to be losing the plot a little bit and we're puttering in circles without going anywhere.

I can see why Rae would be a snake in the grass: she's a succubus and a Mata Hari-style spy who doesn't hesitate to use seduction and sex to achieve her goals. I can also understand her wanting to put that behind her and change her life. What I don't understand is why she should do so as a result of meeting the MC or becoming, a woman like her, the MC's soul mate.

For some reason, the dev has decided to make the MC of the game a plank of wood. He has no charisma, no personality, no charm. We don't know about his past nor does he have any special skills. He is “the chosen one” because for some reason (coincidence) he has a lot of "mana”, but he didn't even know it, and Rae has had to teach him everything. Also, basically his role in the game is to follow like a puppy dog the girls and do what they ask him to do. Zero initiative. He's a full Beta man. I don't know why someone like Rae who has lived hundreds of years and met thousands of people could notice a guy like MC. That's the main problem I see with this game: terrible MC. That, and as you say, the dev has long been walking in circles with the plot, and in my opinion, stuffing in tons of filler material.

 

[Pixillin']

I can see why Rae would be a snake in the grass: she's a succubus and a Mata Hari-style spy who doesn't hesitate to use seduction and sex to achieve her goals. I can also understand her wanting to put that behind her and change her life. What I don't understand is why she should do so as a result of meeting the MC or becoming, a woman like her, the MC's soul mate.

For some reason, the dev has decided to make the MC of the game a plank of wood. He has no charisma, no personality, no charm. We don't know about his past nor does he have any special skills. He is “the chosen one” because for some reason (coincidence) he has a lot of "mana”, but he didn't even know it, and Rae has had to teach him everything. Also, basically his role in the game is to follow like a puppy dog the girls and do what they ask him to do. Zero initiative. He's a full Beta man. I don't know why someone like Rae who has lived hundreds of years and met thousands of people could notice a guy like MC. That's the main problem I see with this game: terrible MC. That, and as you say, the dev has long been walking in circles with the plot, and in my opinion, stuffing in tons of filler material.

I think, narratively, it's because it's the first time she's ever been able to pause and have a normal life - hang out, watch tv, do a bit of travelling (including exploring a world where there is no magic and everyone has a fairly 'normal' existence.) It's the first time she's been able to pause and think about her life, and what she wants from it rather than just following orders and getting a new assignment when an old one finishes. I agree about the MC just being bland, although he does seem to have an almost instant rapport with Rae. And while I like some of the other Women (not all of them) - I think this would have been a better story if it was just MC and Rae - travelling through space and time and trying to figure out what happened and what to do about it - possibly meeting some others along the way and then letting them go. At least at this point, the other Lis stories do not seem tied to the main plot, they are kind of long, complicated side stories - though maybe that changes.

 

[Evil13]

I haven't played the last couple of updates

Then I suggest that you do play and catch up. You'll get a much clearer picture of the situation.

 

[Pixillin']

Then I suggest that you do play and catch up. You'll get a much clearer picture of the situation.

I did the rooftop conversation about her old life. Did something happen after that?

 

[sillyrobot]

I did the rooftop conversation about her old life. Did something happen after that?

Yeah, apparently (I haven't played the last couple of releases yet) there's a confrontation between Rae and the person she's been trying to contact with the MC's help.

In broad strokes and based upon what I read here, there are revelations that Rae is a racial supremacist who's been playing upon the emotions of the MC since she arrived. As typical, the scene ends before the MC can get a final conversation.

 

[Wakka00]

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[Pixillin']

Yeah, apparently (I haven't played the last couple of releases yet) there's a confrontation between Rae and the person she's been trying to contact with the MC's help.

In broad strokes and based upon what I read here, there are revelations that Rae is a racial supremacist who's been playing upon the emotions of the MC since she arrived. As typical, the scene ends before the MC can get a final conversation.

Yeah, that's the part I played and it's not really that she's a racial supremacist. After the war they keep talking about, all of the men were executed and they were prevented from having full blooded male children. The order that Rae is apart of wants to create a male succubus (incubus?) to continue their race so that they don't die out. (And technically it would be species, not race.) So it's not like she wants to eradicate all of the other species - just keep hers from fading away. The rest of it sort of tracks though - she hasn't actually met the head of that order yet - unless it's happened in the last 2 or 3 updates. She met her old friend who she betrayed as part of that order. Edit: Also it would be wrong to say that she's been playing on the emotions of MC since she arrived - she did at first. She reacted the way she has been trained to when she didn't know who or what he was or anything about her new situation. but she says that it's not the case anymore and she wants to MC to come with her to meet the head of her order (because she can't go alone) - even though they definitely will not react well since he's an outsider and a human being brought before the head of their secret order - and she wants him to trust her. That was where I left off - she hasn't let him give her an answer yet.

 

[sillyrobot]

Yeah, that's the part I played and it's not really that she's a racial supremacist. After the war they keep talking about, all of the men were executed and they were prevented from having full blooded male children. The order that Rae is apart of wants to create a male succubus (incubus?) to continue their race so that they don't die out. (And technically it would be species, not race.) So it's not like she wants to eradicate all of the other species - just keep hers from fading away. The rest of it sort of tracks though - she hasn't actually met the head of that order yet - unless it's happened in the last 2 or 3 updates. She met her old friend who she betrayed as part of that order. Edit: Also it would be wrong to say that she's been playing on the emotions of MC since she arrived - she did at first. She reacted the way she has been trained to when she didn't know who or what he was or anything about her new situation. but she says that it's not the case anymore and she wants to MC to come with her to meet the head of her order (because she can't go alone) - even though they definitely will not react well since he's an outsider and a human being brought before the head of their secret order - and she wants him to trust her. That was where I left off - she hasn't let him give her an answer yet.

I misunderstood which rooftop conversation you were referencing -- I thought it was the rooftop of MC's Earth where Rae talks about her past.

I'm agnostic to Rae's situation as I haven't played the last couple of releases and probably won't for a couple more. That said, the problem with a confession after exposure is people have a rightful concern the confession is only performing damage control. "You discovered I did this thing you don't like in the past, but I swear I've changed! You can trust me now even though I hid this stuff from you and you only found out because I was exposed by another!" rings hollow. Broken trust may not be impossible to repair, but it is both a delicate and time-consuming process. Such loss of trust is often enough to turn a potential life-mate into someone fit for only for recreational use or abandoned entirely.

 

[Pixillin']

I misunderstood which rooftop conversation you were referencing -- I thought it was the rooftop of MC's Earth where Rae talks about her past.

I'm agnostic to Rae's situation as I haven't played the last couple of releases and probably won't for a couple more. That said, the problem with a confession after exposure is people have a rightful concern the confession is only performing damage control. "You discovered I did this thing you don't like in the past, but I swear I've changed! You can trust me now even though I hid this stuff from you and you only found out because I was exposed by another!" rings hollow. Broken trust may not be impossible to repair, but it is both a delicate and time-consuming process. Such loss of trust is often enough to turn a potential life-mate into someone fit for only for recreational use or abandoned entirely.

The reason trust is valuable in the first place is that it makes people give you the benefit of the doubt when it's not easy to do so. We'll see what happens, but I'll put all my chips on Rae coming through when it counts.