Ren'Py A House in the Rift [v0.8.04r1] [Zanith]

[BunnygirlBoobies]

Can anyone please let me know how do I have sex with Naomi without any femdom?

In the dream segment she kept trying to dominate me despite me winning the game every time and I had to stop that sequence (she kept trying over and over). Then again when I caught her in the shower the attacked me but since I'm stronger than her I managed to break her grip. Still I had to either submit to her (to get any progress with sex acts) or leave entirely.

I don't understand how to progress without femdom.

Edit: For example, how specifically can I progress her quest "Bath Ride"? It seems to always just be femdom.

All of the side story content is specifically about kinks or lewd scenes. I'm noticing that each specific side story is more or less the same kink or some tightly clustered experience in the same sort of lane. They are optional so if you aren't into that kink just avoid it or cancel the event if it initiates when you're trying to get a different event. You can then put the quest chain on your ignore list and just move on. I also am not into most of Naomi's scenes so you just have to avoid them, but you can still do her main story without having to participate in unwanted kinks.

If you want to unlock her scenes then you'll have to participate in the kinks to get them, there's not a way around it. That's her domain is the femdom stuff, so either just bear it to unlock the scenes you want or skip them. You can use the gallery unlocker to just unlock all the scenes if you just want to view them without going through the process of doing all her side content.

Is it at some point possible to get rid of one (or more) of the girls?

(I'm at the point in the story where the pool has just become available, if that matters).

Similar reply to you, if you don't want to advance a girls plot just ignore their quests or disengage if one starts. There's a lot of "main story" quests that you have to do to advance other girl's stories so if you get one of those you have to do it, but otherwise you can safely ignore anything that the game lets you disengage from or doesn't force you to trigger, like the bathroom scenes or the weights scenes for example. I doubt you'll ever be able to "remove" a girl considering that the plot literally centers around an adjacent concept, and as far as I can tell the core 4 girls are all involved in the main story, I haven't done much with Yona yet so i'm not sure if I summoned her early or what.

 

[Skeltom]

Anyone know how to get the "No Talk Needed" scene with Cait? I have no clue how to get it or if I just straight up missed it.

After her first time you will have a talk and you need to kiss her instead of saying anything when she says she really liked kissing.

 

[Karnewarrior]

As much fun as it would be to yeet Naomi out into the void, and the purple one (*especially* the purple one), I don't think that's an option.

The purple one...
Rae? She's pink tho

 

[mrbombadil]

Does Lyriel get good after a while? I didn't want to continue her story because the game requires me to apologize to her.

Buuuut... if it turns out she's some kinky girl with great scenes and she improves her personality then I'd be willing to give her a chance. Like for example does Lyriel eventually get like Rae is in bed, with good anal scenes?

At the moment, I'm with Naomi's opinion about Lyriel... that first impression Lyriel gave is not something easy to get past.

 

[Karnewarrior]

Does Lyriel get good after a while? I didn't want to continue her story because the game requires me to apologize to her.

Buuuut... if it turns out she's some kinky girl with great scenes and she improves her personality then I'd be willing to give her a chance. Like for example does Lyriel eventually get like Rae is in bed, with good anal scenes?

At the moment, I'm with Naomi's opinion about Lyriel... that first impression Lyriel gave is not something easy to get past.

Sort of. If you don't like Tsunderes, you likely will never like Lyriel. She does get a bit more honest with herself as time goes on, and a bit less bratty.

She's also got this bit of maso/Daddy kink stuff, and IIRC a touch of elven raceplay fetish thrown in, as far as kinks, so if those are your thing you'll probably want to put up with her Tsun moments.

 

[zeerin3125]

The purple one...
Rae? She's pink tho

Yes, I know her name is Azraesha, no I won't be calling her that, and yes, the purple one. Her hair is clearly purple.

 

[bazingatr0n123]

What kind of models are these? Are they from honey select?

 

[Karnewarrior]

Yes, I know her name is Azraesha, no I won't be calling her that, and yes, the purple one. Her hair is clearly purple.

I'd say it's more of a maroon...

 

[zeerin3125]

I'd say it's more of a maroon...

I'm not sure you know what that colour is.

Quick Google search for Maroon, followed by an online colour picker



Picture of the purple one from page 1, followed by an online colour picker




It might seem like I'm being an asshole for that, but that's not my intention. If it was I'd own it, with no issue. The colour picker and Google results are merely evidence.

 

[mrbombadil]

What kind of models are these? Are they from honey select?

Yes.

So, not sure how you'll feel about that. Those models are of course quite outdated and suffer from the typical Honey Select issues. But still, some of the girls are quite beautiful, if you manage your expectations.

 

[mrbombadil]

Sort of. If you don't like Tsunderes, you likely will never like Lyriel. She does get a bit more honest with herself as time goes on, and a bit less bratty.

She's also got this bit of maso/Daddy kink stuff, and IIRC a touch of elven raceplay fetish thrown in, as far as kinks, so if those are your thing you'll probably want to put up with her Tsun moments.

Thanks a lot for the info. Hmm, yeah, given those kinks I guess I'll give her a try hehe. But indeed, Tsundere isn't generally not my thing.

 

[sillyrobot]

Thanks a lot for the info. Hmm, yeah, given those kinks I guess I'll give her a try hehe. But indeed, Tsundere isn't generally not my thing.

She calmed down enough to become tolerable after the house meeting addressing her behaviour. Before that, I was ready to toss her out the front door -- or drop the game if she remained insufferable.

 

[Evil13]

Yeah, Lyriel has kind of become the game's saving grace.

 

[BunnygirlBoobies]

Yeah, Lyriel has kind of become the game's saving grace.

I think the issue that most people have is that there's been a very wide net cast to try to include lots of various kinks in the game so as to have at least one person to cater to someone's kink in the game. Rae is more or less the vanilla one with some outlying kinks, Cait is very submissive, Naomi is very dominant, Lyriel is sort of the one you corrupt, and i'm not sure about Yona and Blair quite yet.

Compare this to Eternum where most of the girls fall onto the submissive side of the line with varying degrees of submissiveness, with Nancy being the most outlying filling in the Mommy kink. Also compared this to Harem Hotel where it's also mostly submissive girls, only one of them has a dominant side that mostly assists you with being the dominant one and is a second to your kinks.

 

[Evil13]

I think the issue that most people have is that there's been a very wide net cast to try to include lots of various kinks in the game so as to have at least one person to cater to someone's kink in the game. Rae is more or less the vanilla one with some outlying kinks, Cait is very submissive, Naomi is very dominant, Lyriel is sort of the one you corrupt, and i'm not sure about Yona and Blair quite yet.

Forget the kinks, we're talking character development.

Rae effectively admits that she's been lying to the MC since the beginning, as well as other lies by omission.
Naomi continues to need to be the one in charge despite the damage she's done to relationships around her, not treating others as grown ass adults.
Cait is still very much "look before she leaps" and still doesn't think things through. That might be changing at the moment, but no one is holding their breath.
Lyriel started off as a bratty character, for whom it was all "Me me me me". Well now she's starting to open her eyes more and more and realise what others have done for her. She's had genuine character growth.
Yona and Blair, its still early days for their character development so we really can't say too much on their behalf.

 

[Skeltom]

Yeah, Lyriel has kind of become the game's saving grace.

I kind of agree, but on the technical lewd side they have been very lazy with her. She is a clear favorite and get's content, but they just seem to recycle the same animation for her and label it a new content. They have used her first time animation with a change of outfit or a toy, what three times now? Her dream scene is about identical as well, so four? She has had quite a bit of growth but they haven't changed any of her other interactions to reflect that. They haven't done that with anyone really though. It's like they forget that the game has a beginning with repeatable scenes. She warms up to the MC just to play out the same "Why are you bothering me bout watching tv" or "Just checking on you" "Good for you". There have been inconsistencies like that for years now. Dinner with the girls and Naomi "Can't find her crew" and Yana talking about the threads even before seeing them.

I also really don't care for the looped "cinema" style of a lot of the new animations. Just switch through positions over and over so you can't stay on one you like, just watch the loop and that's that. And apparently the MC's catch phrase is "Erm..." now. Holy shit does he like saying that now. It is way, way, overused in his dialogue.

Sorry, my venting is done now.

 

[mrbombadil]

I think the issue that most people have is that there's been a very wide net cast to try to include lots of various kinks in the game so as to have at least one person to cater to someone's kink in the game. Rae is more or less the vanilla one with some outlying kinks, Cait is very submissive, Naomi is very dominant, Lyriel is sort of the one you corrupt, and i'm not sure about Yona and Blair quite yet.

Compare this to Eternum where most of the girls fall onto the submissive side of the line with varying degrees of submissiveness, with Nancy being the most outlying filling in the Mommy kink. Also compared this to Harem Hotel where it's also mostly submissive girls, only one of them has a dominant side that mostly assists you with being the dominant one and is a second to your kinks.

While I think you're right, I do think the devs have handled it wrong for several reasons here. One is that it would be far better to use a system like many other games were you the player can significantly influence the behavior and personality of the girls.

So specifically, I would prefer to corrupt the girls, to make them mostly submissive. Plenty of games allow for that option.

In this game you're basically confronted and have to interact with girls that are often completely the opposite of the personalities you like. That's, for me, not enjoyable in a porn game.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Rae effectively admits that she's been lying to the MC since the beginning, as well as other lies by omission.

Personally, I think she's gotten stuck in an awkward position. In the early days of living in the house, she obviously continued to act like she'd been acting for probably centuries — deceiving and seducing to get an edge on her situation. In those early weeks, I think it's understandable since she literally knows no one. Why would she automatically be honest with anyone when her entire life before that was one drenched in deception? She also is of a people who are on their way to effective extinction. It would be a bigger betrayal to her own kith and kin to announce what she is, that she's unlikely to tell anyone the truth, and that they consider all other races who wield ether less capably as "lesser".

At a certain point, though, she actually started to fall in love with the MC. Then it's the repeated trope in literature and movies. You have someone (like a spy, for instance) who was never whom they appeared to be, in a situation where normally honesty and trust get built over time. But you're then scared that immediately upon revealing your true self (if you're even able to do that much), you'll be rejected and your partner will be incredibly pissed at you. The longer you take to reveal the truth, of course, the worse things become; but that wouldn't make it any easier to show someone the truth with whom you've built something real on top of a foundation of illusion.

If I were in the same spot, I honestly don't know how differently I would act. When you don't know if you can trust anyone around you, you tend to do things to protect yourself from possible threat. In Rae's case, that was through seduction and deception. Then, when you have gotten to know people and built trust and started to care for them, it eventually becomes where things are now. I can definitely sympathize with Rae, hating the corner she's been painted into. Obviously others will see this differently, but since I can't see myself taking drastically changed actions in that exact same situation, I chose to have my MC be supportive and forgiving. Technically, she didn't have to reveal her dishonesty to anyone; the fact that she chose to do so with the MC, I think, wins her a huge amount of points in my book.

 

[Carso150]

yeah that is the thing, Rae by trusting you enough to tell you her secrets even if she knows you might react poorly is already being very open and putting herself at risk, there is no real reason why she should reveal any of her secrets to you you have no real way of finding anything out on your own, but she choose to do so because she came to love you and knows that keeping such secrets is bad for a relationship

Naomi honestly I just feel people dont finish her story, yes she acts like an asshole but in the current version that is eventually solved, she got her character development which was the objective from the start

honestly one thing that I like about this game is precisely how imperfect the LIs are, they feel real and humans can be shitty, they can lie, they can be assholes, but they do change and have development

 

[Karnewarrior]

Last I checked, Naomi's issue of being an asshole wasn't really solved, she was just in a depressive slump after realizing she WAS an asshole and had basically alienated her friends because of it.

The issue isn't that people don't have character arcs, it's that the character arcs are slower than fucking glaciers.