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TiffanyMonroe

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Vanessa (the model), she is warming up to the MC, a bit..like she takes of her shades for him....i'm sure in 5-7 ep's you may kiss her...maybe.
Riley (the redhead), yeah no progress whatsoever. Honestly i really see no point to even continue to try with her, i find most side girls are more interesting and her looks aren't particular good either...feels like flirting with a brick wall at this point.
Nope, she won't take her glasses off even when she fists the mc. :Kappa:
 

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Presumably because that's the kind of character they are. Riley is friendly enough but more focused on the current tasks. Vanessa starts from being super cold and would require a lot of warming up before she'd even consider anything more than just being business partners. It would make zero sense to have intimate content with them at the moment.
Zero sense, really? They're young women who surely have needs and desires, like everyone else. MC is a (supposedly) good looking guy who's proven to be capable, confident, kind, classy/funny/charming.
How does it make zero sense to not at least show a glimmer of interest?
 

Gorse

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(...) Riley is killing me at this point, I know it's going slow but it's way to slow considering how much you flirt with her if you go that route. It's becoming borderline depressing to keep using flirty option because you get shut down over and over. It doesn't even make sense to progress the relationship after being so deep into this platonic mode if that makes any sense. I swear it's like MC is trying to seduce a wall at this point regarding Riley
I'm with you on Riley. I've all but given up at this point. You don't even feel like you're making any progress towards a possible relationship. At this point I've just taken the hint she isn't interested.
Vanessa (the model), she is warming up to the MC, a bit..like she takes of her shades for him....i'm sure in 5-7 ep's you may kiss her...maybe.
Riley (the redhead), yeah no progress whatsoever. Honestly i really see no point to even continue to try with her, i find most side girls are more interesting and her looks aren't particular good either...feels like flirting with a brick wall at this point.
Can only sadly agree with all of you...

Havent played this in a while, can someone tell me if there are content with the model lady and the redhead ? Last time i played there wasent any.
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May I kindly ask why not? Since everyone would be happy to have some more intimate content with them, the decision seems counterintuitive :unsure:
Exactly the question I would ask... after 9 long (and very wordy) episodes focusssing majorly on all these kinds of "business" relationships with all the girls while making almost no significant progress romantically/intimately...
that's not only "becoming borderline depressing", it feels like a chore!
At least for me - and obviously not only for me, perhaps :sick:.

VenusWaltz, you've always accentuated your intention to make this VN a fun experience for players long enough.
So make it some fun experience eventually by letting at least something happen romantically!!!
It's more than about time for less business and more intimacy!!!

It's really no fun at all if you kind of brick wall most of all flirtation attempts behind the originally strict business/work relations and orientations of the characters. Or their character backgrounds. Or whatever.
In particular for Riley. Yes, her business focus is fundamental, but come on: is that really necessary to let her keep that attitude, completely regardless of any constant efforts to romance her? Is that really your aim to hold on consequently on the (back) story of her, when players just loose their patience with her and give up?! Is she meant to be only platonic or even unable to commit herself into a romantic relationship?!
Vanessa is... a very specific "case" indeed, maybe has about the hardest nutshell ever when it comes to any (more than) friendly relationships with anyone. So, yeah, she's for sure the toughest of them all to "crack". So I can somewhat understand that any attempts on her are going to need more time than on any of the other girls.
But again, come on, how long do you want us players to "suffer" instead of finally making some palpable intimate progress with these girls?

I can only beg you to at least consider to straighten up the pace. Not only for the benefit of all of your players who yearn for something more than "business only" stuff, but also for the benefit of the whole story you want to tell.
Because otherwise you might not have that many folks left who want to read and play this story?!

Please always keep in mind, that most players of your "game" aren't there for 'strictly business' and platonic relationships...

Well, let's better say: I am not playing these "games" for strictly business related stuff and friendly, but mostly platonic relationsships at all. I don't mind any slow burn stories, but eventually after that many episodes, there has to be some burn to keep me interested enough. And my interest is on a dimishing scale with every update.
Just my opinion, my two cents.

If you really intend not to build up into some romance or intimate content with the socalled main LIs (in particular Riley) "for a while", I'll probably have lost my interest in your story completely for sure. Would a pity though, cause I liked this one at lot right from the very first episode...
 

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Do the funny/romantic/serious options have any effect or more for flavour?
there is no difference I think it is just if you want a funnier line or face reaction of certain character, but it doesn't affect anything so far.
 

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I think it's time the MC accepts being friend-zoned by Riley. I don't know the exact number of days that have passed, but with all of the time skips, she's had more than enough time to "think about it." The fact that the academic advisor gave in to sexual feelings before Riley is willing to accept a formal date shows me that it is time to move on.

At least Sophia is a redhead who knows what she wants.
 

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Presumably because that's the kind of character they are. Riley is friendly enough but more focused on the current tasks. Vanessa starts from being super cold and would require a lot of warming up before she'd even consider anything more than just being business partners. It would make zero sense to have intimate content with them at the moment.
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May I kindly ask why not? Since everyone would be happy to have some more intimate content with them, the decision seems counterintuitive :unsure:
Imagine yourself as a girl. Now imagine yourself as a pretty girl popular on social media. This kind of women they receive (no joke) 500-1000 messages from men on daily basis and none of these messages are normal. Not trying a normal conversation or to try and getting to know her. These messages are nasty of men trying to fuck her or saying how cute she looks.

On the streets she gets the same behavior from men. She is not treated as person, but as a piece of meat that men wants to get to satisfy their dicks. They will also make nasty comments, call outs, call her names if she doesn't give them attention. Even the looks they give are as if they were trying to undress her at that very moment.

You may even think I am joking right now, but this is how a lot of women are treated by men on daily basis. Once a friend of mine who used to be popular on instagram during college, and she wasn't even that popular, just around 1k followers, but would post pictures of her and she showed me once in a single day around 100+ messages and almost 100% nasty ones. I wouldn't get even 1 message on social media lol. Some of those people were even people she knew but they were thirsty dogs or simps.

It made me think about my behavior towards women in general and I saw that they deal with that kind of crap on daily basis.
With that being said, some girls just get disgusted by men and they lose interest in having a man in her life even if they are straight. Someone to get through and conquer her would have to put a lot of effort.

Is there anyone here playing a route without having sex, flirting or dating other girls? I am pretty sure the answer is no. Everyone just wants to get inside her panties and she already knows that. Reason why these girls, even if they are friends with you, they know that you, like any other boy/man, is thinking with your dick when you talk to them (like the thousand of other men in her life).
 

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Imagine yourself as a girl. Now imagine yourself as a pretty girl popular on social media. This kind of women they receive (no joke) 500-1000 messages from men on daily basis and none of these messages are normal. Not trying a normal conversation or to try and getting to know her. These messages are nasty of men trying to fuck her or saying how cute she looks.

On the streets she gets the same behavior from men. She is not treated as person, but as a piece of meat that men wants to get to satisfy their dicks. They will also make nasty comments, call outs, call her names if she doesn't give them attention. Even the looks they give are as if they were trying to undress her at that very moment.

You may even think I am joking right now, but this is how a lot of women are treated by men on daily basis. Once a friend of mine who used to be popular on instagram during college, and she wasn't even that popular, just around 1k followers, but would post pictures of her and she showed me once in a single day around 100+ messages and almost 100% nasty ones. I wouldn't get even 1 message on social media lol. Some of those people were even people she knew but they were thirsty dogs or simps.

It made me think about my behavior towards women in general and I saw that they deal with that kind of crap on daily basis.
With that being said, some girls just get disgusted by men and they lose interest in having a man in her life even if they are straight. Someone to get through and conquer her would have to put a lot of effort.

Is there anyone here playing a route without having sex, flirting or dating other girls? I am pretty sure the answer is no. Everyone just wants to get inside her panties and she already knows that. Reason why these girls, even if they are friends with you, they know that you, like any other boy/man, is thinking with your dick when you talk to them (like the thousand of other men in her life).
So... there's still no action (not even a kiss) with the blonde? I paused this game in chapter 3/4 waiting for more content with her haha.
 
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So... there's still no action (not even a kiss) with the blonde? I paused this game in chapter 3/4 waiting for more content with her haha.
Yes. As the developer said above, there isn't any lewd content yet and there isn't any lewd content planned in the near future for the blond or the red head Riley.
What I am ok with since I like Erika. Riley is a turn off and Vanessa (the blond), if she ever decide to be with him, I think he should give her exclusive attention instead of trying to have all girls at once.
 

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Yes. As the developer said above, there isn't any lewd content yet and there isn't any lewd content planned in the near future for the blond or the red head Riley.
What I am ok with since I like Erika. Riley is a turn off and Vanessa (the blond), if she ever decide to be with him, I think he should give her exclusive attention instead of trying to have all girls at once.
I don't care for Riley but Vanessa is amazing. Whether it's her design or her personality, I love them haha. Too bad there isn't even a kiss since it means they still aren't very close at all. And I agree. But it's a harem game, so I doubt the protagonist decides to be alone to be with Vanessa. But seeing her personality, she would probably tell him to fuck off if he wants to start a relationship and continue with other girls lol
 
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Is there anyone here playing a route without having sex, flirting or dating other girls? I am pretty sure the answer is no. Everyone just wants to get inside her panties and she already knows that. Reason why these girls, even if they are friends with you, they know that you, like any other boy/man, is thinking with your dick when you talk to them (like the thousand of other men in her life).
If you pick mostly knight options it does NOT make you a guy who's thinking with his dick, rather with his heart. Finding a girl attractive and interesting and courting her also doesn't mean you only think about getting in her panties.
Your conclusions are just too radical and untrue.
 

DanMotta

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I don't care for Riley but Vanessa is amazing. Whether it's her design or her personality, I love them haha. Too bad there isn't even a kiss since it means they still aren't very close at all. And I agree. But it's a harem game, so I doubt the protagonist decides to be alone to be with Vanessa. But seeing her personality, she would probably tell him to fuck off if he wants to start a relationship and continue with other girls lol
I honestly don't think it would make sense for MC to go through all this work to get into her panties to just treat her like any other girl. Specially when she seems to not like guys like MC. And she is well aware about the girls surrounding him lol. But at the end of the day, it is the developer choice, if he wants to make her part of the harem I am pretty sure no one will complain. Same goes for Riley, She already knows that MC has some kind of relationship with the other girls, one of reasons why she always calls on his bullshit when he asks her out.
But yeah, Vanessa, maybe because she isn't available yet, is The One everyone desires.
 

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If you pick mostly knight options it does NOT make you a guy who's thinking with his dick, rather with his heart. Finding a girl attractive and interesting and courting her also doesn't mean you only think about getting in her panties.
Your conclusions are just too radical and untrue.
But are you dating other girls while flirting and trying to date her as well? Even if you are a "knight". Because as the Dev said above, these choices are just for the conversations. It doesn't matter that much if you are nice and polite towards a girl, willing to date them while being nice and polite to 10 other girls and dating all of them as well. Will you say you love her as well, that she is unique, and everything else, does that makes you any better than a guy who already shows what he wants from her?
I always tend to think about things that are written in a game as I see it in real life. There are many "nice guys" out there dating girls without they knowing about each other. For them, he is the love of their life, untill they find out she is just one of many. In this game, at least a few girls knows about it and they are ok with it. But I don't feel the same vibe when it comes to Riley or Vanessa.
Also he got into his teacher panties by saying how much he likes her and a lot of knightly words, made her feel special, while doing the same to other girls. Is that really a "knight" behavior?
 

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Imagine yourself as a girl. Now imagine yourself as a pretty girl popular on social media. This kind of women they receive (no joke) 500-1000 messages from men on daily basis and none of these messages are normal. Not trying a normal conversation or to try and getting to know her. These messages are nasty of men trying to fuck her or saying how cute she looks.

On the streets she gets the same behavior from men. She is not treated as person, but as a piece of meat that men wants to get to satisfy their dicks. They will also make nasty comments, call outs, call her names if she doesn't give them attention. Even the looks they give are as if they were trying to undress her at that very moment.

You may even think I am joking right now, but this is how a lot of women are treated by men on daily basis. Once a friend of mine who used to be popular on instagram during college, and she wasn't even that popular, just around 1k followers, but would post pictures of her and she showed me once in a single day around 100+ messages and almost 100% nasty ones. I wouldn't get even 1 message on social media lol. Some of those people were even people she knew but they were thirsty dogs or simps.

It made me think about my behavior towards women in general and I saw that they deal with that kind of crap on daily basis.
With that being said, some girls just get disgusted by men and they lose interest in having a man in her life even if they are straight. Someone to get through and conquer her would have to put a lot of effort.

Is there anyone here playing a route without having sex, flirting or dating other girls? I am pretty sure the answer is no. Everyone just wants to get inside her panties and she already knows that. Reason why these girls, even if they are friends with you, they know that you, like any other boy/man, is thinking with your dick when you talk to them (like the thousand of other men in her life).
In our "real" world, I mostly agree with you. Many men mistreat women as 'fresh meat' and see them only with their d*cks.
And I'm fully aware of such a discriminatory misbehavior and despise it in general.

Anyway: first, this VN isn't reality. Even with some realism/slice of life stuff in it.

Second, maybe you are right and Vanessa in particular (and even Riley to some extend) could be pissed off by that kind of misbehaviour. But does the MC (mis)treat them in that way? Do they have any reason to be that frigid at him, really?!

Third and last (but not least), even if many of the girls in this VN are particularly 'hard to get' and have their reasons/backgrounds for being 'not interested' - why would I want to include them in a p*rn game (even it's fortunately without the typical tropes) at all? Just to piss off players eventually? To learn them a lesson? To test their patience?
I mean, we've already reached episode 9 - this story is not in the early stages anymore!

I don't know anything about how long this story is going to be in the end, but it just feels like endlessly long up to now already.
But again, maybe that's only me getting more and more bored and disappointed with each update.
And maybe this VN's nothing for me then anymore.
 

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Alright washing my hands with riley.
DONE SIMPING.

This is just as bad as having a female friend you had a crush on for years keeping you stuck in the BRO ZONE. :ROFLMAO:


in this case I feel like we are forever stuck in the friend zone with her and with that, I think it's time to just move on LMAO!!

At this point Vanessa going to fully give in before her and at least we made progress making a little dent in her armor compared to Riley.

Like I said I don't mind slow burns but this is getting ridiculous with Riley, She don't even take us seriously honestly, She blow off every attempt of flirting, And she is also taking years to think about the date proposal.



 
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